EagleVA Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 I see they're beginning demonize the victim, they're spinning it to where he was the aggressor and he walked into a home under construction among other things. Concerning walking into a home under construction, I've done that several times.
Dave Moss Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 I’ve walked into a few homes under construction recently, one of which had no exterior doors yet, but the builders had just put in a walk-in refrigerator in the kitchen.
mayanh8 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 7:22 PM, EagleVA said: I see they're beginning demonize the victim, they're spinning it to where he was the aggressor and he walked into a home under construction among other things. Concerning walking into a home under construction, I've done that several times. I've walked into several homes that were under construction because I'm nosy AF and always want to have the goods on my neighbors. 1
Bill Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Yeah in Florida trespassing onto a construction site is a felony. It's not your house. Stay the F out. (I'm not using this to say that the shooting was justified. It was not a justifiable homicide.) 4
hey suess Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bill said: Yeah in Florida trespassing onto a construction site is a felony. It's not your house. Stay the F out. (I'm not using this to say that the shooting was justified. It was not a justifiable homicide.) It’s not your house until you get the CO. Unless you’re building, or appraising for draws, there’s no reason to be there.
Jsvand12 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 I heard on the radio today that it turned out that it wasn’t even him that went into the construction site. 1
Dave Moss Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 a lot of builders put up a chain-linked fence is what I've noticed in my neighborhood. It's not possible on every jobsite though.
mayanh8 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Bill said: Yeah in Florida trespassing onto a construction site is a felony. It's not your house. Stay the F out. (I'm not using this to say that the shooting was justified. It was not a justifiable homicide.) It's only a felony if you bring a firearm onto the construction site. And if you dont, there needs to be a clearly marked sign saying it's a felony. Doing what Arbery did in FL would have been a simple misdemeanor.
mayanh8 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Jsvand12 said: I heard on the radio today that it turned out that it wasn’t even him that went into the construction site. I wouldn't be surprised. But I'm operating under the assumption it was him.
hey suess Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Is there any kind of statement that you’re supposed to shout out prior to making the Citizens arrest?
hey suess Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: It's only a felony if you bring a firearm onto the construction site. And if you dont, there needs to be a clearly marked sign saying it's a felony. Doing what Arbery did in FL would have been a simple misdemeanor. I initially misread this. This is correct. It’s a felony if you have a gun on the site and it’s also a felony if there’s a sign posted that it’s a construction site and you’re there....with or without gun.
Mlodj Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, hey suess said: Is there any kind of statement that you’re supposed to shout out prior to making the Citizens arrest? "Hi-Yo Silver"? 1 4
EagleVA Posted May 13, 2020 Author Posted May 13, 2020 I will say this much, Arbery's response was not the way to go, if someone approaches me with a shotgun, my hands are in the air and I'm trying to de-escalate the matter, the last thing I would do is begin tussling for the gun. Truth be told, the incident seems unreal, especially when you take into account that the rednecks go two months without being arrested and had the video not come out who knows if they would have ever been arrested. Seems fishy to me.
Bwestbrook36 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 4 hours ago, mayanh8 said: I've walked into several homes that were under construction because I'm nosy AF and always want to have the goods on my neighbors. What is it with posters on this board walking around construction sites? Lol. Bobby wizdum claimed to have gotten brutally beaten by cops for being near a construction zone .... 1 1
Bill Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 4 hours ago, hey suess said: Is there any kind of statement that you’re supposed to shout out prior to making the Citizens arrest? I haven't taken the time to learn FL laws because it's already a wasteland, so I can only speak to PA laws. In order for a person to make a citizens arrest, the crime committed has to be a felony, the citizen has to witness the crime, and the person commiting the crime has to be the one that is arrested (you'd think the last point is redundant but you'd be surprised). If the felony criteria isn't met, it has to be some type of offense that causes danger to someone (for example, if a guy starts punching people, it's either summary harassment or misdemeanor simple assault if there's an injury, but you can go ahead and detain that guy). Then when the guy is "arrested" you pretty much have to immediately notify the police. 1
Dave Moss Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 If you shoot the person dead does that count as a citizen arrest or no? 1
NOTW Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 5 hours ago, hey suess said: Is there any kind of statement that you’re supposed to shout out prior to making the Citizens arrest? "This is MAGA country!" 3 4
mayanh8 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: What is it with posters on this board walking around construction sites? Lol. Bobby wizdum claimed to have gotten brutally beaten by cops for being near a construction zone .... I've only done it when I'm building a house in a neighborhood with other people who are also building at the same time.
EagleJoe8 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 9 hours ago, hey suess said: Is there any kind of statement that you’re supposed to shout out prior to making the Citizens arrest? STOP! Or my mom will shoot!! 4
greend Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Dave Moss said: If you shoot the person dead does that count as a citizen arrest or no? they are definitely arrested at that point
Bwestbrook36 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, mayanh8 said: I've only done it when I'm building a house in a neighborhood with other people who are also building at the same time. Well that makes more sense lol
Mlodj Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Dave Moss said: If you shoot the person dead does that count as a citizen arrest or no? If you hit them in the heart it might count as a cardiac arrest. 1
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