1 hour ago, Kz! said:

My true character? For thinking there's probably more to a story than two white racists decided to hunt and murder a black jogger for fun? OK...

Yeah, because that never happens in the south.

But it does, and it keep happening because people are more worried about combating "anti-white bias" than putting two criminals in a cage where they belong.

MAGA priorities.

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

My true character? For thinking there's probably more to a story than two white racists decided to hunt and murder a black jogger for fun? OK...

Pretty sure nobody said it was "for fun". Trying to dig up petty crimes this guy committed to try to "tell the other side" is absolutely showing the type of person you are. Keep fighting the good fight, kz.

4 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Woah woah woah, I gotta stop you right there and point out how wrong this is. 
 

You need to bring back the orange juice! We demand you bring back the orange juice!

 

I’m speaking for the group. 
 

BRING BACK THE ORANGE JUICE!!

Hey man, I'm just trying to get my feet under me on this new board. I'll get to fixing my profile up soon. The juice will be back!

juice? did somebody say juice? 

 

18 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Pretty sure nobody said it was "for fun". Trying to dig up petty crimes this guy committed to try to "tell the other side" is absolutely showing the type of person you are. Keep fighting the good fight, kz.

Not sure who is digging up these videos but in both of them it wasnt the crime that was alarming or even concerning.  It was his f’d up attitude that caught my attention.  
 

Like i said.  He was going to get killed or get locked up one way or another.  
 

 

26 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Pretty sure nobody said it was "for fun". Trying to dig up petty crimes this guy committed to try to "tell the other side" is absolutely showing the type of person you are. Keep fighting the good fight, kz.

So, it's better to take a 25 second video clip of an incident to tell the whole story than look at things in context? We can determine everything from those 25 seconds. The innocence of the guy who got shot, the racism of the white dudes involved, their intentions to hunt down and murder an innocent jogger for being black, but if we look at the individual's histories, that's "absolutely showing the type of person you are." That's lmao worthy.

48 minutes ago, L.E said:

Yeah, because that never happens in the south.

But it does, and it keep happening because people are more worried about combating "anti-white bias" than putting two criminals in a cage where they belong.

MAGA priorities.

So your theory is that there is a white-on-black murder epidemic going on in the south currently that isn't addressed because people are worried about combating "anti-white bias." That's uh, something. Have you met EagleVA? I think you two would have a lot in common because that theory is right up there with flat-earth.

18 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

It was his f’d up attitude that caught my attention.  

If I was sitting alone in my car, in a park, and the cops harassed me the way they did him, my attitude would be a little effed too? 

Captial crimes in the state of Georgia.  Treason, Aircraft Hijacking, Murder.

Going onto a construction site is not a capital crime, and I do not see anything that tells me in Georgia it is OK for citizens to carry out the death penalty for non capital crimes.

/thread

2 hours ago, Kz! said:

My true character? For thinking there's probably more to a story than two white racists decided to hunt and murder a black jogger for fun? OK...

Who said that they did it for fun?

What does a previous arrest have to do with this topic?

 

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Captial crimes in the state of Georgia.  Treason, Aircraft Hijacking, Murder.

Going onto a construction site is not a capital crime, and I do not see anything that tells me in Georgia it is OK for citizens to carry out the death penalty for non capital crimes.

/thread

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Very well said. I don't think anyone has said otherwise.

42 minutes ago, Kz! said:

So, it's better to take a 25 second video clip of an incident to tell the whole story than look at things in context? We can determine everything from those 25 seconds. The innocence of the guy who got shot, the racism of the white dudes involved, their intentions to hunt down and murder an innocent jogger for being black, but if we look at the individual's histories, that's "absolutely showing the type of person you are." That's lmao worthy.

How is the "rapping in the park" in context, kz? Come on, man. Just stop. It's murder and corruption almost swept it under the rug. That's reality.

22 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

How is the "rapping in the park" in context, kz? Come on, man. Just stop. It's murder and corruption almost swept it under the rug. That's reality.

I think past actions can provide context and help explain how/why things played out as they did. I think in Georgia a murder charge requires malice aforethought, which might be difficult to prove in this case, but we'll see. You may very well be right. I still think there's a lot more to the case that will come to light before all is said and done.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

I think past actions can provide context and help explain how/why things played out as they did. I think in Georgia a murder charge requires malice aforethought, which might be difficult to prove in this case, but we'll see. You may very well be right. I still think there's a lot more to the case that will come to light before all is said and done.

What does him minding his own business in his own car, have anything to do with this situation?  

17 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

For the thousandth time, in order to make a citizen's arrest, you must have witnessed a crime or had immediate knowledge that a crime was committed.  The McMichaels had neither of these things.  The "Citizens Arrest" argument is dead in the water.    

You're setting the bar too low. Even with immediate knowledge that a crime was committed you can't make a citizens arrest. You have to have observed it first hand. 

23 minutes ago, Kz! said:

I think past actions can provide context and help explain how/why things played out as they did. I think in Georgia a murder charge requires malice aforethought, which might be difficult to prove in this case, but we'll see. You may very well be right. I still think there's a lot more to the case that will come to light before all is said and done.

And nothing you have provided moves the needle. That's the only point here. If there was a domestic abuse charge in there or something, fine.

40 minutes ago, Kz! said:

I think past actions can provide context and help explain how/why things played out as they did. I think in Georgia a murder charge requires malice aforethought, which might be difficult to prove in this case, but we'll see. You may very well be right. I still think there's a lot more to the case that will come to light before all is said and done.

Weird how you are so focused on analyzing the past actions of the innocent victim who was minding his own business, not the people who stalked and confronted the innocent man, brandishing a shotgun, and eventually murdered him.  Weird how that works...............................................................................

Just now, Phillyterp85 said:

Weird how you are so focused on analyzing the past actions of the innocent victim who was minding his own business, not the people who stalked and confronted the innocent man, brandishing a shotgun, and eventually murdered him.  Weird how that works...............................................................................

Yeah, as far as I can tell, the shooters in this instance have pretty spotless records, so unfortunately we don't have much to go on as far as past violent incidents/acts of aggression, etc.

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yeah, as far as I can tell, the shooters in this instance have pretty spotless records, so unfortunately we don't have much to go on as far as past violent incidents/acts of aggression, etc.

Ok great.  So how are any past incidents of Arbery's relevant then?????? Again, he's the one that was going for a jog, and then was stopped in the street by 2 armed men.  He was the one who had the right to use deadly force to defend himself since he had every reason to believe his life was in immediate risk.    Arbery could be a former felon, and it would have absolutely NOTHING to do with this case.   

You are just simply trying to do anything you can to shame a dead man.  If you can make it look like he wasn't a good person, then you can make his killing look not as bad since we didn't lose one of "the good ones".   It's f-cking pathetic. 

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

If I was sitting alone in my car, in a park, and the cops harassed me the way they did him, my attitude would be a little effed too? 

Is that a question?   Because i know exactly how things go when you get an attitude with the cops

11 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Ok great.  So how are any past incidents of Arbery's relevant then?????? Again, he's the one that was going for a jog, and then was stopped in the street by 2 armed men.  He was the one who had the right to use deadly force to defend himself since he had every reason to believe his life was in immediate risk.    Arbery could be a former felon, and it would have absolutely NOTHING to do with this case.   

You are just simply trying to do anything you can to shame a dead man.  If you can make it look like he wasn't a good person, then you can make his killing look not as bad since we didn't lose one of "the good ones".   It's f-cking pathetic. 

OK, I know this case has gotten you emotional, and I can respect that. The video is tough to watch. I just think there's probably more to a story that better explains what took place and why it took place than a short, 25-second video can show. You don't agree, and that's OK. We'll get through this.

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

OK, I know this case has gotten you emotional, and I can respect that. The video is tough to watch. I just think there's probably more to a story that better explains what took place and why it took place than a short, 25-second video can show. You don't agree, and that's OK. We'll get through this.

There is absolutely nothing that can be brought to light that makes citizens executing the death penalty for a non death penalty crime acceptable.  I hope those two racist POS's burn in hell sooner rather than later.

27 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Weird how you are so focused on analyzing the past actions of the innocent victim who was minding his own business, not the people who stalked and confronted the innocent man, brandishing a shotgun, and eventually murdered him.  Weird how that works...............................................................................

Look, this is just what Kz!!!! does when a crime is committed.  He always does a thorough check into the background of the victim.  Remember the Immigration thread on the old board?  Full of one-off tweets posted by Kz!!!!!!  about an illegal immigrant committing a crime and then always followed up by pages and pages of him investigating the victim to find out if there's some possible justification for the crime.  Every single time.  Right now, for instance, in the Misc. PC thread, he posted a tweet about a black guy killing a white woman followed by an in-depth analysis of the victim's past, just to make sure the crime wasn't justified.  It's just Kz!!!!!'s style.

8 minutes ago, Kz! said:

OK, I know this case has gotten you emotional, and I can respect that. The video is tough to watch. I just think there's probably more to a story that better explains what took place and why it took place than a short, 25-second video can show. You don't agree, and that's OK. We'll get through this.

This case hasn't gotten me emotional.  Your insanely crazy takes just blow my mind.   But considering the source, I guess I really shouldn't have been surprised. 

When have I said that there may not be more to the story than the 25 second clip?  Have I said that there shouldn't be a trial to determine all the facts?   Nope. 

What I am saying is Arbery's past transgressions bear absolutely no relevance to this case.  And your tactic is clear as day, and pathetic.  

Funny how in all your deep digging into the history of all the men involved, you didn't bother to mention that the elder McMichael lost his power to arrest from 2006 to 2014 for failing to keep up with his required training. And he didn't alert his supervisors until 2014.   An innocent oversight on your part, I'm sure.....

7 minutes ago, Kz! said:

OK, I know this case has gotten you emotional, and I can respect that. The video is tough to watch. I just think there's probably more to a story that better explains what took place and why it took place than a short, 25-second video can show. You don't agree, and that's OK. We'll get through this.

Well said