February 5, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Toastrel said: I owned a legacy for 12 years. No recalls. The wife had a Chevy Blazer a while, it sucked hard, but never was recalled. Not while we owned it. That's because of the age more than anything else. Newer vehicles have much richer feature sets which means more complexity and more opportunities for things to break and require recalls. If your Legacy was 2 years instead of 12 years old, I'd bet it would've had a few recalls.
February 5, 20241 yr damn shame that subaru never did a recall on their faulty head gaskets on pre 2015 cars.
February 5, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: damn shame that subaru never did a recall on their faulty head gaskets on pre 2015 cars. That's what killed my old forester. Despite people thinking I was a lesbo, I loved that thing. I felt like I could have driven through hell in it.
February 5, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, Gannan said: That's what killed my old forester. Despite people thinking I was a lesbo, I loved that thing. I felt like I could have driven through hell in it. Haaa. we had two of them in the family and both had the same defect, right around 150k. issue is, in most cases, by the time you realize you have a head gasket issue, the heads themselves are F'd and the bill goes $3k plus if you go for new heads vs used. other than that though, awesome cars. i used to wish for snow in the winter just so i could drive in it.
February 5, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: Haaa. we had two of them in the family and both had the same defect, right around 150k. issue is, in most cases, by the time you realize you have a head gasket issue, the heads themselves are F'd and the bill goes $3k plus if you go for new heads vs used. other than that though, awesome cars. i used to wish for snow in the winter just so i could drive in it. I love my Outback, it's just a useful, solid vehicle. My lease is up in the fall and I'm definitely gonna get another one.
February 5, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's because of the age more than anything else. Newer vehicles have much richer feature sets which means more complexity and more opportunities for things to break and require recalls. If your Legacy was 2 years instead of 12 years old, I'd bet it would've had a few recalls. It was new at the beginning of the 12 years. Then I drove it for many years, then sold it at 12.
February 5, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's because of the age more than anything else. Newer vehicles have much richer feature sets which means more complexity and more opportunities for things to break and require recalls. If your Legacy was 2 years instead of 12 years old, I'd bet it would've had a few recalls. Legacies have plenty of safety recalls. Musk sucks, but in general Teslas are pretty safe when you look at total miles driven vs fatalities. They're under a lot of scrutiny because of Musk's batshiitery and the stock itself being massively overvalued, and the media loves nothing more than bringing "young upstarts" down to earth after helping catapult them as the next big thing.
February 5, 20241 yr Random year: 2010 legacy has 19 NHTSA safety recall results https://www.cars.com/research/subaru-legacy-2010/recalls/
February 5, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Random year: 2010 legacy has 19 NHTSA safety recall results https://www.cars.com/research/subaru-legacy-2010/recalls/ https://www.cars.com/research/subaru-legacy-1996/recalls/ 1996, zero recalls, I WIN!!!
February 5, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Toastrel said: https://www.cars.com/research/subaru-legacy-1996/recalls/ 1996, zero recalls, I WIN!!! https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/1996/SUBARU/LEGACY/4%2520DR#recalls
February 5, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, Toastrel said: https://www.cars.com/research/subaru-legacy-1996/recalls/ 1996, zero recalls, I WIN!!! Both the 2010 and 1996 Tesla model years have zero recalls as well 🙃
February 5, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Shepard Wong said: My Honda Pilot got recalled as part of the air bag issue. It got a lot of attention in the media yet I never felt the need to leap to Honda’s defense. I’m not leaping to Teslas defense. I do t own one, and while I am considering an electric vehicle in the future I doubt I’d go Tesla when that time comes unless they improve quality control quite a bit. I also just don’t understand why people act like it is so uncommon for there to be recalls on them. Especially when most if not all of the recalls I’ve seen are over the air updates. I mean, my iPhone gets an over the air update every few months. Zomg!!! It must be terrible!
February 5, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Imp81318 said: I’m not leaping to Teslas defense. I do t own one, and while I am considering an electric vehicle in the future I doubt I’d go Tesla when that time comes unless they improve quality control quite a bit. I also just don’t understand why people act like it is so uncommon for there to be recalls on them. Especially when most if not all of the recalls I’ve seen are over the air updates. I mean, my iPhone gets an over the air update every few months. Zomg!!! It must be terrible! you must be new around here, but i am going to guess that it has something to do with the thread title and the forum it's posted in.
February 5, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, Imp81318 said: I’m not leaping to Teslas defense. I do t own one, and while I am considering an electric vehicle in the future I doubt I’d go Tesla when that time comes unless they improve quality control quite a bit. I also just don’t understand why people act like it is so uncommon for there to be recalls on them. Especially when most if not all of the recalls I’ve seen are over the air updates. I mean, my iPhone gets an over the air update every few months. Zomg!!! It must be terrible! Part of the difference is the update you download on your iPhone usually doesn't address a risk to your safety. That's why government bodies with oversight like NHTSA get involved to perform testing and mandate recalls for things like vehicles (and obviously aircraft) but not for consumer electronics. But otherwise I agree that "recall" being an all encompassing term for both hardware and software defects can be misleading if the latter allows for remote deployment with minimal disruption to the user.
February 5, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Part of the difference is the update you download on your iPhone usually doesn't address a risk to your safety. That's why government bodies with oversight like NHTSA get involved to perform testing and mandate recalls for things like vehicles (and obviously aircraft) but not for consumer electronics. But otherwise I agree that "recall" being an all encompassing term for both hardware and software defects can be misleading if the latter allows for remote deployment with minimal disruption to the user. The most recent one posted in this thread had to do with the size font used in dashboard warning lights. That seems like a less severe issue than the break booster randomly making the brake pedal rock hard preventing me from stopping in my truck but what do I know?!
February 5, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Imp81318 said: The most recent one posted in this thread had to do with the size font used in dashboard warning lights. That seems like a less severe issue than the break booster randomly making the brake pedal rock hard preventing me from stopping in my truck but what do I know?! Yea that's just Tesla being dumb though. Warning lights are standardized and Tesla probably just didn't care enough about compliance or were unaware that deviating slightly from the standards would dire the ire of a regulatory body like NHTSA. Rivian probably has its own compliance issues but hasn't been caught yet. You can get away with some of this stuff some of the time, but eventually, when you get big enough and start selling enough vehicles, you're going to be scrutinized more heavily because of the number of impacted consumers.
February 6, 20241 yr Quote Elon Musk’s community notes feature on Twitter came back to bite him Tuesday night after he repeated his false claim that there was "no proof” that the Texas mall mass shooter was a white supremacist. A Twitter clip taken from Musk’s bizarre CNBC interview was quickly flagged by community notes, dispelling Musk’s statement. "Texas police have confirmed that the Allen mall shooter ‘had neo-NSDAP tattoos and beliefs’ and wore a patch signifying ‘right wing death squad,’” the note read. It also corrected Musk’s repeated assertions that Bellingcat, the news organization that found further evidence of white supremacism, was nothing more than a "psyop” pusher. "Bellingcat has a history of impartial investigative journalism,” the note continued. "Police confirmed its findings on the shooter.” According to TMZ, the note had vanished by Wednesday morning for unknown reasons. Apparently puss boy has turned off notes on his tweets,. Not surprising.
February 7, 20241 yr https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/gina-carano-sues-disney-mandalorian-firing-elon-musk-support-rcna137579 Quote "I would like to express my deepest gratitude & thank you to @ElonMusk & @X for giving me an opportunity to bring my case to light,” she wrote. Elon
February 7, 20241 yr Just now, mikemack8 said: https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/gina-carano-sues-disney-mandalorian-firing-elon-musk-support-rcna137579 Elon She wasn't fired, her contract was not renewed.
February 7, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Boogyman said: She wasn't fired, her contract was not renewed. she was fired from lucas films. rumor had it, her character was in early talks for her own show after season 3 of mandalorian.
February 7, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: she was fired from lucas films. rumor had it, her character was in early talks for her own show after season 3 of mandalorian. Yeah, talks.
February 7, 20241 yr Just now, Toastrel said: You've never been fired from talks? Probably. But in either case, I prefer companies have control over who they employ without government interference.
February 7, 20241 yr She's gonna lose her suit, much like Trump always does, so it's no surprise Elon would line up behind yet another loser. Hate to see it.
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