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10 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Just like they would never supress a FACTUAL news story about Hunter Bidens laptop, wrought with possible corruption ties right before an election.   nah the left never does any of these things.  

:roll:  This idiot can't stop.

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51 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Yeah, I’ve posted here for a couple years.

😉 

that was one out there poster. 

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

If Twitter is a "cesspool" then so is every social media outlet where people just say whatever is on their mind.

Yes

What’s unique about twitter is the interactions between fans and players.  For example, I’ve seen Fletcher Cox get into it with fans on twitter.

10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

What’s unique about twitter is the interactions between fans and players.  For example, I’ve seen Fletcher Cox get into it with fans on twitter.

They do that with Instagram as well. It's just public posts. They probably did it at the height of Facebook too

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

If Twitter is a "cesspool" then so is every social media outlet where people just say whatever is on their mind.  But Twitter is especially known for news and politics.

 

And that's part of the problem, if you ask me. Twitter is a short messaging service that essentially grew out of texting as a way to quickly communicate simple messages to groups of friends. It is not the proper platform to consume media, but it seems like there's no going back now.

34 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

And that's part of the problem, if you ask me. Twitter is a short messaging service that essentially grew out of texting as a way to quickly communicate simple messages to groups of friends. It is not the proper platform to consume media, but it seems like there's no going back now.

It wasn't meant as texting to your friends, that's what...texting is for.  This was to broadcast ideas to the public and have people like, retweet to share with others and broaden the audience and gain followers.  Of course companies, news organizations and celebrities would use it to reach audiences and make money from ads and marketing their products.  It's been used to gauge trending topics, following hashtags, etc.  That's way more than just talking to your friends.  Facebook was supposed to be that, just with friends and like everything else from IG to Snapchat and Tik Tok, it gets used for branding and marketing to make money.

Just take for example sports news.  Writers break stories about trades and free agent signings on Twitter before it's anywhere else.  People have complained about the NFL draft that writers on site are tweeting out the picks before they're announced on TV spoiling it, and fans will post those here on the EMB and fans will reply here that it's spoiling it before they've seen it on TV it happens that fast.

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

It wasn't meant as texting to your friends, that's what...texting is for.

I believe it was developed at a time before group texts existed.

 

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Twitter's origins lie in a "daylong brainstorming session" held by board members of the podcasting company Odeo. Jack Dorsey, then an undergraduate student at New York University, introduced the idea of an individual using an SMS service to communicate with a small group.[23][24] The original project code name for the service was twttr, the disemvowelled version of the word twitter, an idea that Williams later ascribed to Noah Glass,[25] inspired by Flickr and the five-character length of American SMS short codes. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter#2006–2007:_Creation_and_initial_reaction

 

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

:roll:  This idiot can't stop.

Then what's your excuse?

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

Then what's your excuse?

OHHHH OHHH I know

 

He doesn't own a mirror, is incapable of self awareness

 Just ask yourself who is the one who fell hard for damn near every false narrative that has been pushed?

 

Yeah he's that guy. Many of them in here- THE CULT

 

 

12 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I believe it was developed at a time before group texts existed.

 

 

And Facebook started out just for colleges.  Instagram was only photos, now it's videos and they added stories.  SnapChat was to send messages to friends and photos that delete so you wouldn't worry about someone saving them, now companies and media groups produce content on it for followers.  Things grow.

Jack Dorsey also said:

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Jack Dorsey, a Twitter co-founder and former chief executive, always wanted it to be something else. Something it wasn’t, and couldn’t be. "The purpose of Twitter is to serve the public conversation,” he said in 2018. Twitter began "measuring conversational health” and trying to tweak the platform to burnish it. 

 

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

And Facebook started out just for colleges.  Instagram was only photos, now it's videos and they added stories.  SnapChat was to send messages to friends and photos that delete so you wouldn't worry about someone saving them, now companies and media groups produce content on it for followers.  Things grow.

Jack Dorsey also said:

 

You forgot MySpace. That started so everyone could be friends with that one guy wearing a white t-shirt. 

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

And Facebook started out just for colleges.  Instagram was only photos, now it's videos and they added stories.  SnapChat was to send messages to friends and photos that delete so you wouldn't worry about someone saving them, now companies and media groups produce content on it for followers.  Things grow.

 

Public conversation is fine, but I think it functions much better on a personal, casual level. It's just not the proper medium for delivering news and technical information. And yes, Facebook and the like have essentially become the same thing, and I lament it. Facebook was much better when it was basically a photo album and status and you needed a .edu email. At least then it was about actually connecting with real friends and acquaintances and you needed at least a modicum of knowledge to join on the discussion. It's so detached from what it originally was. I know we're never going back to newspapers and long-form journalism, but there's gotta be a better way to distribute information.

4 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

You forgot MySpace. That started so everyone could be friends with that one guy wearing a white t-shirt. 

I would never forget MySpace!  See below.  I was just listing current and popular social media platforms.

17 hours ago, NOTW said:

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3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Might be tough to pull off but the approach is a good one. 
 

Plus Moss apparently doesn’t like it so it therefore is surely a good way to work things. 

It’s already a poisoned well.  Could Musk make it worse?  Sure, but it’s already bad.

7 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Public conversation is fine, but I think it functions much better on a personal, casual level. It's just not the proper medium for delivering news and technical information. And yes, Facebook and the like have essentially become the same thing, and I lament it. Facebook was much better when it was basically a photo album and status and you needed a .edu email. At least then it was about actually connecting with real friends and acquaintances and you needed at least a modicum of knowledge to join on the discussion. It's so detached from what it originally was. I know we're never going back to newspapers and long-form journalism, but there's gotta be a better way to distribute information.

Twitter is way beyond personal level it's basically public figures and companies speaking to their audience.  You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube at this point.  Twitter is where celebrities, companies and politicians promote themselves and their ideas to a large base of people.  Those people can choose who to follow and what they care about seeing.  Anything that gets popular and reaches a mass audience will cause corporations to take advantage to want to advertise and reach those audiences.  You can barely to go a news website without pop-up ads, embedded ads between every paragraph, videos that pop-up playing.

Individuals will need to take ownership of what they view.  If people don't click, view, like or comment it loses traction.  It's like people complaining that dumb popcorn movies make so much money...it's what people spend their money on.  If people paid for the character drive rom-coms then studios would make more of those.

10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

It’s already a poisoned well.  Could Musk make it worse?  Sure, but it’s already bad.

Ok good so then if you think that then it means there is a strong chance Musk will make it better. Thanks man!

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

And that's part of the problem, if you ask me. Twitter is a short messaging service that essentially grew out of texting as a way to quickly communicate simple messages to groups of friends. It is not the proper platform to consume media, but it seems like there's no going back now.

I was with guys using it all the way back in 2006 when it came out and I was working with all the Silicon Valkey dudes. They always used it as a broadcast platform from day one. Back then it was a broadcast to a group like a group following certain tech or whatever. It was never used as a way for small sets of friends to communicate. Of course one can do that just as one can broadcast on FB when FB is the setup for groups of friends. 

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Ok good so then if you think that there is a strong chance Musk will make it better. Thanks man!

Nah, it will be the same or worse.  How is adding an edit button or making people pay for  their blue check marks an improvement?

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

You can barely to go a news website without pop-up ads, embedded ads between every paragraph, videos that pop-up playing.

 

This is so incredibly irritating. It's like the entire internet has been infected with adware these days. I really do miss the old internet. It was so much better. Corporate America ruins everything <_<

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I was with guys using it all the way back in 2006 when it came out and I was working with all the Silicon Valkey dudes. They always used it as a broadcast platform from day one. Back then it was a broadcast to a group like a group following certain tech or whatever. It was never used as a way for small sets of friends to communicate. Of course one can do that just as one can broadcast on FB when FB is the setup for groups of friends. 

I remember a friend back then telling me I just HAD to get on Twitter.  He was following leaders who were sharing leadership principles and tips on keys to success and that sort of thing.  

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Nah, it will be the same or worse.  How is adding an edit button or making people pay for  their blue check marks an improvement?

Getting rid of the bots alone will be a major plus. 

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Nah, it will be the same or worse.  How is adding an edit button or making people pay for  their blue check marks an improvement?

If an edit button had a time limit, it would allow people to edit typos or misspellings but not go back and change historical posts.

You posted this as if those are the only 2 things he said he plans to do.  He's also said he wants to expose the algorithm code that pushes/suppresses certain topics or posts, eliminate bots, shadow bans and change the moderation so people don't get banned or suspended for nothing.  The NY Post had a tweet removed (or were they suspended? I forget) sharing a Hunter Biden story.  Libs of Tik Tok was suspended for re-posting videos of teachers they posted themselves.  Babylon Bee (a satire site) was suspended for saying a transgender female swimmer is a man.

6 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Getting rid of the bots alone will be a major plus. 

So you’re against free speech for bots?

8 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

So you’re against free speech for bots?

No more bots! 
 

An exception can be made for public service bots like a weather alert bot. 

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