August 19, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I want my children to be healthy, happy and successful. There's nothing beyond that I "want" or "don't want" from them. I can't imagine anyone who has children would actually go around asking parents this question. I have two children boy and girl and no I wouldn’t want either to be trans. It would really suck to know they were unhappy or miserable or worse in their original form. but it wouldn’t change anything about how I treat them or how much I love them.
August 19, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, SNOORDA said: I have two children boy and girl and no I wouldn’t want either to be trans. It would really suck to know they were unhappy or miserable or worse in their original form. but it wouldn’t change anything about how I treat them or how much I love them. That's a fair way of looking at it. If they're in a perpetual state of unhappiness then obviously I wouldn't want that. Like I said, complicated.
August 19, 20214 yr Just now, Paul852 said: I'd prefer my child not to be mentally ill or suicidal. I'm not going to go as far as to say being trans would lead to either of those things. All I can do is raise them the best I can and let them make their own decisions. I would never approve any type of life altering decisions for them under the age of 18. That's where I stand. It's not an easy subject, that's for sure. No offense, but this is why I say liberals are in a cult. Of course you don't want your offspring to suffer from gender dysphoria. Of course you wouldn't want your son to lop off his genitals and have them remolded into a makeshift V. But here you are, fighting tooth and nail not to say it because you don't want to concede any of your political party's basic talking points. It's the exact same reason Munson said he'd bang trannies. You don't want to lose the woke points. But to loop back around to the original argument, yes, we have a stake in not wanting our society to popularize transgenderism. I don't want any of my offspring to suffer from gender dysphoria. I want he or she to be mentally healthy enough to accept the body they are born in without having to undergo radical, life-altering surgeries.
August 19, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: No offense, but this is why I say liberals are in a cult. Of course you don't want your offspring to suffer from gender dysphoria. Of course you wouldn't want your son to lop off his genitals and have them remolded into a makeshift V. But here you are, fighting tooth and nail not to say it because you don't want to concede any of your political party's basic talking points. It's the exact same reason Munson said he'd bang trannies. You don't want to lose the woke points. But to loop back around to the original argument, yes, we have a stake in not wanting our society to popularize transgenderism. I don't want any of my offspring to suffer from gender dysphoria. I want he or she to be mentally healthy enough to accept the body they are born in without having to undergo radical, life-altering surgeries. All nonsense. I've literally voted Republican many times. Sorry.
August 19, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, SNOORDA said: I have two children boy and girl and no I wouldn’t want either to be trans. It would really suck to know they were unhappy or miserable or worse in their original form. but it wouldn’t change anything about how I treat them or how much I love them. Right, my question was never meant to imply that paul would stop loving them or disown them if they ended up being trans, just that, of course, you wouldn't want your kids to suffer from mental illness. It really wasn't supposed to be a difficult question to answer.
August 19, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: All nonsense. I've literally voted Republican many times. Sorry. Not nonsense. I literally had to twist your arm to get you to concede that you'd prefer your children didn't suffer from gender dysphoria. You are in a cult, man. 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: Please God, don't let it breed. Post bikini pics or get out.
August 19, 20214 yr Just now, Kz! said: Not nonsense. I literally had to twist your arm to concede that you'd prefer your children didn't suffer from gender dysphoria. You are in a cult, man. I said I don't want my children to be unhappy. Aside from that they can make any decisions they want. If you're assuming everyone who is trans is unhappy then I guess you'll view it as a concession. Good for you.
August 19, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I said I don't want my children to be unhappy. Aside from that they can make any decisions they want. If you're assuming everyone who is trans is unhappy then I guess you'll view it as a concession. Good for you. OK, would you want your son to lop off his genitals and have it inverted into a makeshift V? You know, if it made him happy? But yes, if the suicide rate is around 50%, I imagine the depression rate would be far higher, so statistically speaking, if your child was transgender, they would likely be very unhappy.
August 19, 20214 yr Just now, Kz! said: OK, would you want your son to lop off his genitals and have it inverted into a makeshift V? You know, if it made him happy? Kz, I don't care. He's free to live his life however he wants as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.
August 19, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: Kz, I don't care. He's free to live his life however he wants as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. And again, no offense, but this is why it's a cult. I imagine 5-10 years ago, virtually no parent would hesitate to say "of course I don't want my children to have gender dysphoria." But now, because of your political affiliations, you can't even say you'd prefer your son not to mutilate his genitals. Sorry to be vulgar, but that's what we're dealing with. So to delve into this subject a little deeper, let's say you were single. Would you date a trans woman?
August 19, 20214 yr Just now, Kz! said: And again, no offense, but this is why it's a cult. I imagine 5-10 years ago, virtually no parent would hesitate to say "of course I don't want my children to have gender dysphoria." But now, because of your political affiliations, you can't even say you'd prefer your son not to mutilate his genitals. Sorry to be vulgar, but that's what we're dealing with. So to delve into this subject a little deeper, let's say you were single. Would you date a trans woman? I'm a moderate
August 19, 20214 yr Of course I wouldn't want my son lopping off his P (unless of course he refused to get the vaccine, and then we'd have to remove it out of principal). But other people's kids? Why the hell would I care what anyone else's kid does? Nanny staters like Kz want to tell you how to raise your children/live your life.
August 19, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Of course I wouldn't want my son lopping off his P (unless of course he refused to get the vaccine, and then we'd have to remove it out of principal). But other people's kids? Why the hell would I care what anyone else's kid does? Nanny staters like Kz want to tell you how to raise your children/live your life. Actually, now that I think about it, I do have another want....grandchildren. I might need to retract some of my earlier posts
August 19, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Of course I wouldn't want my son lopping off his P (unless of course he refused to get the vaccine, and then we'd have to remove it out of principal). But other people's kids? Why the hell would I care what anyone else's kid does? Nanny staters like Kz want to tell you how to raise your children/live your life. Nope, it's no one's business if adults want to chop up their genitals. That's on them. Like your preference that your child isn't transgender, my preference is that society does not promote transgenderism because I want a mentally healthy society. That doesn't mean I want the state to crack down on trans people. Oh, and Paul, if effing vanhammersly of all people can quickly and definitively state that he'd prefer not to have a child with gender dysphoria, you need to reassess your position in the CVON moderate club.
August 19, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Nope, it's no one's business if adults want to chop up their genitals. That's on them. Like your preference that your child isn't transgender, my preference is that society does not promote transgenderism because I want a mentally healthy society. That doesn't mean I want the state to crack down on trans people. Oh, and Paul, if effing vanhammersly of all people can quickly and definitively state that he'd prefer not to have a child with gender dysphoria, you need to reassess your position in the CVON moderate club. Irony has a new slogan
August 19, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Nope, it's no one's business if adults want to chop up their genitals. That's on them. Like your preference that your child isn't transgender, my preference is that society does not promote transgenderism because I want a mentally healthy society. That doesn't mean I want the state to crack down on trans people. Oh, and Paul, if effing vanhammersly of all people can quickly and definitively state that he'd prefer not to have a child with gender dysphoria, you need to reassess your position in the CVON moderate club. I thought the two of us were the only members.
August 19, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Kz! said: Look at that. The chart goes up right after 2016. Thanks Trump!
August 19, 20214 yr Just now, toolg said: Look at that. The chart goes up right after 2016. Thanks Trump! Donald Trump being president didn't help promote a mentally healthy society. Kz
August 19, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Donald Trump being president didn't help promote a mentally healthy society. Kz I'd argue that if he's so concerned about mental illness there are lots of other things he can focus on in this country.
August 19, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I'd argue that if he's so concerned about mental illness there are lots of other things he can focus on in this country. Trans people make up a tiny sliver of this country's population but occupy about 80% of Republicans' minds. So, yeah, Kz's right, we have a mental illness problem in America.
August 19, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Trans people make up a tiny sliver of this country's population but occupy about 80% of Republicans' minds. So, yeah, Kz's right, we have a mental illness problem in America. The trans population is rapidly growing. That was the whole point of the post. Then Paul had to go full cult member and it took us a couple of pages to sort out.
August 19, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: The trans population is rapidly growing. That was the whole point of the post. Then Paul had to go full cult member and it took us a couple of pages to sort out. Oh, well then never mind, it's definitely worth spending every minute of your life obsessing over.
August 19, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: The trans population is rapidly growing. That was the whole point of the post. Then Paul had to go full cult member and it took us a couple of pages to sort out. Oh no! This is clearly the biggest threat to our children!
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