October 27, 20213 yr On 10/26/2021 at 10:20 AM, VanHammersly said: Great discussion on Maher about wokism. McWhorter calls it a religion, which is exactly what it is. It's a religion, which is distinctly different from far right Trumpism, which is of course a cult. Wokism shares more commonalities with the religious right of the 80's and 90's (in fact, I'm surprised that the religious right hasn't decided to cooperate with wokism for it's own gains since they share a lot of common interests). It's a broad moral code that uses punitive action to enforce it's code on the world. It's repressive and anti-liberal. Trumpism, on the other hand, is of course a cult since it follows the infallible word of one man. Yang makes the point: Who gives Chapelle, or Maher, or any other entertainer the moral authority to decide what is right or wrong? If I laugh at a Chapelle joke it doesn't mean I have to follow everything he says. He's just a comedian cracking jokes! I can decide if it is funny or not. I choose what I believe, not some comedian on TV. I feel like Maher is covering for the crowd that refuses to change. He accepts their stubbornness and that's not really helping... On the other hand I get what the trans community wants; they want acceptance. But I don't know how you force somebody to accept something they refuse. Acceptance has to come naturally. If they're forced into acceptance, they'll never really come to terms with it.
October 27, 20213 yr 25 minutes ago, toolg said: Yang makes the point: Who gives Chapelle, or Maher, or any other entertainer the moral authority to decide what is right or wrong? If I laugh at a Chapelle joke it doesn't mean I have to follow everything he says. He's just a comedian cracking jokes! I can decide if it is funny or not. I choose what I believe, not some comedian on TV. I feel like Maher is covering for the crowd that refuses to change. He accepts their stubbornness and that's not really helping... On the other hand I get what the trans community wants; they want acceptance. But I don't know how you force somebody to accept something they refuse. Acceptance has to come naturally. If they're forced into acceptance, they'll never really come to terms with it. Sadly the trans people are like a kid looking for unconditional love from a neglectful parent. They will NEVER have the acceptance they want from everyone. Nobody does. As for Chapelle - there are always consequences. If, as I suspect, enough people like Chapelle, he will be forgiven, because they will continue to vote with their wallets.
October 27, 20213 yr 29 minutes ago, toolg said: Yang makes the point: Who gives Chapelle, or Maher, or any other entertainer the moral authority to decide what is right or wrong? If I laugh at a Chapelle joke it doesn't mean I have to follow everything he says. He's just a comedian cracking jokes! I can decide if it is funny or not. I choose what I believe, not some comedian on TV. I feel like Maher is covering for the crowd that refuses to change. He accepts their stubbornness and that's not really helping... On the other hand I get what the trans community wants; they want acceptance. But I don't know how you force somebody to accept something they refuse. Acceptance has to come naturally. If they're forced into acceptance, they'll never really come to terms with it. I don't know what acceptance even means. Are we talking about laws that ensure people that harm them or kill them are brought to justice? Then, yes, of course. Are we talking about them having the freedom to be able to make a gender transition if they choose to? Again, yeah, have at it. But if we mean that we want to make sure that everyone's completely okay with and never makes fun of that fact that a guy looks like a woman, then its fantasy land stuff to pretend that everyone's going to get there. It's so unrealistic that it's not even worth discussing. And trying to force it (or force a comedian not to talk/make fun of it) is not only ridiculous, it's counter productive. The effect it has is that less people accept trans people because they see them as trying to force their views down people's throats and silence opposition.
October 27, 20213 yr Remember when someone on here said he would hook up with a trans person, a then a bunch of people attacked him, and he ended calling another poster racist. And then the poster he called racist was married to another poster who followed the first guy around into different threads hounding him. Fun times….
October 27, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: Remember when someone on here said he would hook up with a trans person, a then a bunch of people attacked him, and he ended calling another poster racist. And then the poster he called racist was married to another poster who followed the first guy around into different threads hounding him. Fun times…. Did he call me racist? Probably - everyone who didn’t agree with him he called racist. I do remember him calling me a scumbag and said that I’m the reason that people in high school commit suicide and that I probably laugh about it when they do - yeah so wow - much fun indeed.
October 27, 20213 yr 5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Remember when someone on here said he would hook up with a trans person, a then a bunch of people attacked him, and he ended calling another poster racist. And then the poster he called racist was married to another poster who followed the first guy around into different threads hounding him. Fun times…. I'm the person that got him to admit he would have sex with a biological man. Yeah, you could say I'm pretty good at the internet.
October 27, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: Did he call me racist? Probably - everyone who didn’t agree with him he called racist. I do remember him calling me a scumbag and said that I’m the reason that people in high school commit suicide and that I probably laugh about it when they do - yeah so wow - much fun indeed. Yeah, I was kind of being sarcastic…
October 27, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: I'm the person that got him to admit he would have sex with a biological man. Yeah, you could say I'm pretty good at the internet.
October 27, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: I'm the person that got him to admit he would have sex with a biological man. Yeah, you could say I'm pretty good at the internet. What an accomplishment.
October 27, 20213 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Don't be jealous. Your biggest internet accomplishment is spiking the football over Elizabeth Warren's DNA test. Just now, Dave Moss said: What an accomplishment. Like I said, I do alright.
October 27, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Don't be jealous. Your biggest internet accomplishment is spiking the football over Elizabeth Warren's DNA test. Like I said, I do alright. Nonsense. I deserve an award for getting you to flex about your zero turn lawnmower.
October 27, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Nonsense. I deserve an award for getting you to flex about your zero turn lawnmower. Do you really think when he posted that, it was a flex? Jesus Christ you people are terrible at the internet
October 27, 20213 yr 16 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Remember when someone on here said he would hook up with a trans person, a then a bunch of people attacked him, and he ended calling another poster racist. And then the poster he called racist was married to another poster who followed the first guy around into different threads hounding him. Fun times…. How many times have you cried and simultaneously J'd off while thinking about those events? Be honest - this is a safe space.
October 27, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: Do you really think when he posted that, it was a flex? Jesus Christ you people are terrible at the internet Shhhh, both he and Boogyman really seem to be enjoying it.
October 27, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: How many times have you cried and simultaneously J'd off while thinking about those events? Be honest - this is a safe space. Not sure, why?
October 27, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, bobeph said: Is this person still around? Sounds like I missed a good one. Nah. It was Munson. He had to sell his computer to be able to afford chicken breast.
October 27, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, bobeph said: Is this person still around? Sounds like I missed a good one. You don't remember Munson? Back in the old days, he was the crazy lib in CVON. Now every hour someone in here posts the same type of crap 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Not sure, why? No reason
October 27, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Kz must use some sort of bat signal to summon Mike
October 27, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: You don't remember Munson? Back in the old days, he was the crazy lib in CVON. Now every hour someone in here posts the same type of crap There's pretty much no one in here that's anywhere near as liberal as Munson was anymore. Maybe Dave. We're in a thread right now where liberals are all piling on wokeness. Zero chance Munson would take that position.
October 27, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: There's pretty much no one in here that's anywhere near as liberal as Munson was anymore. Maybe Dave. We're in a thread right now where liberals are all piling on wokeness. Zero chance Munson would take that position. I wholeheartedly agree. We don’t have anyone who is far left and touting Bernie’s policies on here. Not regularly anyway.
October 27, 20213 yr Also, Munson used to get attacked by lots of posters on here. Now the only person who gets attacked like that is Kz. Lmao
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