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7 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

Because of their political affiliation maybe?

Is it really? Rowling is a LGBT activist and a Liberal in Britain.

 

I really don't see why Kimmel gets to keep his job, if others who have done similar have to lose their jobs.

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2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

i know. that's why i asked a question. i'd love to hear/read some solutions other than "the dems have screwed up so what do they have to lose by voting repug". 

that's kind of how we got trump.

 

2 hours ago, bobeph said:

First I’d love to know what percentage of the homeless people are also ukn’ filthy crackheads.  Not to sound heartless, but more times than not people who are that far gone from an addiction are helpless.  They don’t want to be helped.

After weeding out those piles of ukn’ trash, I’d like to see what’s left.  Who are the people that have really fallen on hard times and has no family/friends to help.  Then we would have to come up with creative solutions to help those people get off the street, and find some type of job where they can sustain a life off of the streets.

Above is where I jumped in.  Offering some sort of reasonable response to hunts post.  How you other ukn’ idiots got so far off track is beyond me.

7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

you keep doing what gun-rights activists always do and trying to pretend that if you expose some minor detail that I didn't volunteer that I'm somehow arguing from a position of ignorance and since I'm not an expert on guns I should just STFU. I guess since none of us are politicians we shouldn't be on this board complaining about them?

it has a comparatively high amount of kinetic energy paired with a comparatively high rate of fire with it being a semi-automatic, and is also able to take a large magazine. ignoring the upper-end of the rate of fire since you will of course trade accuracy the higher you go, you can realistically shoot at least 15 rounds a minute fairly accurately in close quarters (say within 50'), and each round has a very large amount of kinetic energy compared to other weapons with similar rates of fire. point being: semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 allow a person to dish out a huge amount of damage accurately if you've been training with it, in a very short amount of time, without reloading if you have multiple guns and magazines (as the LV shooter did).

there's a reason why Paddock had over a dozen AR-15s and only a couple bolt-action rifles, even though the latter has more kinetic energy: you can't fire as many rounds as quickly. and Paddock was over 1000' away from his targets.

I understand that some M2s are still floating around, grandfathered in. but again, as I stated, my point was not WHERE the line exists necessarily, but that there IS a line. and if there IS a line, there can be reasonable debate over where that line should be.

I don't think the comparison to the 4th is apt because it doesn't stress the same tension between public safety and individual rights. at the time of 2a's writing, there was basically no tension between public safety and the right to bear arms. that's not true in 2020.

I have no desire to roll back the 2nd amendment, I just think gun control is a reasonable debate for we, the people, to have. there was a time when the responsible gun owners of this nation were amenable to a certain level of gun control. certainly some of this was motivated by fear of too many guns in the hands of the "great unwashed," but there is also plenty of legitimate concern among the populace about the availability and proliferation of incredibly deadly weapons in this country. 

Stop with the kinetic energy. At this point you’re only a level above Joe "buy a shotgun” Biden.

Kinetic energy has nothing to do with lethality of an AR15. 

Also the time that certain gun people were amenable to gun control was when the gun owners were establishment white folk afraid of the blacks. 
 

Rifles are used in an incredibly small amount of murders, let alone an AR15 pattern rifle. As a matter of fact you’re more likely to be beat to death than murdered by a rifle.  Handguns are used the overwhelming majority of the time. 
 

It’s obvious your position comes from fear, not reason. 

12 minutes ago, bobeph said:

That’s my point.  Those who don’t want help will just continue to abuse drugs and could really care about being homeless.  They’d rather be high than have food and shelter.

so what could we, or the government actually do do help these people?  What would you suggest?  I suggest helping those who want help, and those who don’t?  Well, that’s their choice.  Unfortunately they’ll end up dead someday 

But that's already what happens.  If someone wants to kill themselves via drug overdose, they do.

14 minutes ago, bobeph said:

That’s my point.  Those who don’t want help will just continue to abuse drugs and could really care about being homeless.  They’d rather be high than have food and shelter.

so what could we, or the government actually do do help these people?  What would you suggest?  I suggest helping those who want help, and those who don’t?  Well, that’s their choice.  Unfortunately they’ll end up dead someday 

somehow this convo turned into forcing help on drug addicts.  it started as a discussion of poverty in big cities. what % of these impoverished people do you think are homeless drug addicts who don't want help? i'd say it's very low. 

my opinion all along has been that education is key & would help folks get higher paying jobs which, in turn, would help cut down on crime.  there are direct correlations between education & poverty and between poverty & crime.  

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

my opinion all along has been that education is key

we have shared this opinion for years.

notice though, the education system never gets fixed, by anyone from any party.

10 minutes ago, bobeph said:

 

Above is where I jumped in.  Offering some sort of reasonable response to hunts post.  How you other ukn’ idiots got so far off track is beyond me.

welcome to CVON. its why i mostly just sit back and read in here :roll: 

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Just now, mr_hunt said:

somehow this convo turned into forcing help on drug addicts.  it started as a discussion of poverty in big cities. what % of these impoverished people do you think are drug addicts who don't want help? i'd say it's very low. 

my opinion all along has been that education is key & would help folks get higher paying jobs which, in turn, would help cut down on crime.  there are direct correlations between education & poverty and between poverty & crime.  

The erosion of the American Family unit since the late 60's is the reason.

The welfare system penalizes dual parent households.  You get more money being a single mother.

Children from single parent households typically grow up poorer and are at greater risk of being victims of violent crime as well as a higher chance of becoming a criminal.

Marriage: America's Greatest Weapon Against Child Poverty | The ...

Crime Rates Proportional Single Mothers

I've long been a proponent of better education as well but it's definitely not the whole story.  Fatherless homes are definitely a huge part of the issue.  

2 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

we have shared this opinion for years.

notice though, the education system never gets fixed, by anyone from any party.

yeah, you would think that improving education would be a bipartisan issue. misuse of funds & teachers' unions haven't helped. i'm not an edumacation expert who claims to have a quick fix...but i'd find some & start there. 

5 minutes ago, BFit said:

welcome to CVON. its why i mostly just sit back and read in here :roll: 

Land of the butthurt. 😂

2 minutes ago, Bill said:

Stop with the kinetic energy. At this point you’re only a level above Joe "buy a shotgun” Biden.

Kinetic energy has nothing to do with lethality of an AR15. 

Also the time that certain gun people were amenable to gun control was when the gun owners were establishment white folk afraid of the blacks. 
 

Rifles are used in an incredibly small amount of murders, let alone an AR15 pattern rifle. As a matter of fact you’re more likely to be beat to death than murdered by a rifle.  Handguns are used the overwhelming majority of the time. 
 

It’s obvious your position comes from fear, not reason. 

Why do you dismiss kinetic energy? Injuries caused by AR-15 are very hard to treat exactly due to the amount of energy that the weapon can deliver to a target! It absolutely has to do with its lethality. 

Bullet for bullet, yes a hunting rifle is going to deliver even more. But you're not going to be able to deliver nearly as many rounds in the same time period with a hunting rifle compared to an AR-15.

The fact that handguns are used in committing the majority of murders actually helps my point about the lethality of the AR-15.  You argue out of one side of your mouth when you say "kinetic energy doesn't matter because hunting rifles have even more!" while also saying "you're more likely to be murdered by a handgun". reason being, my point about the AR-15 was its combination of high velocity/high energy rounds being delivered in a short amount of time. handguns are far less powerful yet are more likely to kill you - why? because it's easily concealed and carried. I never argued it was "all about" the kinetic energy, but you decided to seize on just that one item because you felt it was easy to pick apart on its own. but the point was about it being both able to deliver a lot of energy (which causes very serious wounds that are hard to treat), AND the ability to fire a high volume of rounds from a large magazine in a short amount of time.

And again, all of what I'm saying here is to get to where you might admit there's a reasonable conversation that could be had about gun control, and you decide instead to just stonewall for "reasons". 

3 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

The erosion of the American Family unit since the late 60's is the reason.

The welfare system penalizes dual parent households.  You get more money being a single mother.

Children from single parent households typically grow up poorer and are at greater risk of being victims of violent crime as well as a higher chance of becoming a criminal.

Marriage: America's Greatest Weapon Against Child Poverty | The ...

Crime Rates Proportional Single Mothers

correlation is not causation.

it's irresponsible to imply "being married reduces poverty." poverty results in fewer marriages and more divorces.

13 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

somehow this convo turned into forcing help on drug addicts.  it started as a discussion of poverty in big cities. what % of these impoverished people do you think are homeless drug addicts who don't want help? i'd say it's very low. 

my opinion all along has been that education is key & would help folks get higher paying jobs which, in turn, would help cut down on crime.  there are direct correlations between education & poverty and between poverty & crime.  

Well, uh, yeah...education and poverty usually don’t go hand in hand. :lol:

2 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

The erosion of the American Family unit since the late 60's is the reason.

The welfare system penalizes dual parent households.  You get more money being a single mother.

Children from single parent households typically grow up poorer and are at greater risk of being victims of violent crime as well as a higher chance of becoming a criminal.

 

 

Just now, binkybink77 said:

I've long been a proponent of better education as well but it's definitely not the whole story.  Fatherless homes are definitely a huge part of the issue.  

 

oh, education is definitely not the only reason...never claimed it was...but it's part of it. 

 

you guys can work on the single parent home issue...i'm not sure how you fix that one. 

16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

But that's already what happens.  If someone wants to kill themselves via drug overdose, they do.

Fair enough.  Not sure what the issue is then.

2 minutes ago, bobeph said:

Well, uh, yeah...education and poverty usually don’t go hand in hand. :lol:

so maybe we should send those homeless crackheads you were talking about to college!  

6 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

yeah, you would think that improving education would be a bipartisan issue. misuse of funds & teachers' unions haven't helped. i'm not an edumacation expert who claims to have a quick fix...but i'd find some & start there. 

its a def start and would help quite a bit, but there's def more to it.

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

 

 

oh, education is definitely not the only reason...never claimed it was...but it's part of it. 

 

you guys can work on the single parent home issue...i'm not sure how you fix that one. 

Well when Republicans try to advocate for "family values" it's mocked by the left - the party of "progress" and all of that. 

4 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

Well when Republicans try to advocate for "family values" it's mocked by the left - the party of "progress" and all of that. 

i think everyone has their own version of "family values".  but i also think there's a lot of common ground.  

Usually what I see mocked isn't the family values part. It's where you see hypocrisy and a long list of republicans who chant family values then cheat on their wives, or for example leave a wife who's dying of cancer for a younger model, or maybe bang a porn star while the wife is home with a baby. 

46 minutes ago, bobeph said:

Above is where I jumped in.  Offering some sort of reasonable response to hunts post.  How you other ukn’ idiots got so far off track is beyond me.

Uses straw men in every argument and then wonders why we go off track. 😂😂😂

52 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

so maybe we should send those homeless crackheads you were talking about to college!  

Sure.  How can we raise money to pay for it?

26 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Uses straw men in every argument and then wonders why we go off track. 😂😂😂

Someone learned a new big liberal word today.  :roll:

Just now, bobeph said:

Someone learned a new big liberal word today.  :roll:

"Racism" and "Science" are soooooooo last week.

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