February 22, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: I guess "freedom" is now a bad word. What the hell has happened? I blame @Dave Moss
February 22, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, The_Omega said: Does Justin Trudeau get trounced in 2025 or will people have forgotten by then
February 22, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, paco said: Does Justin Trudeau get trounced in 2025 or will people have forgotten by then Confoundingly, the Canadians seem to be overwhelmingly in support of these actions. One of the companies I represent is a Canadian manufacturer, I make a good living selling a lot of their products, and they are really good people who seem so normal, until the conversation turns to politics, then the conversation always takes an unexpected turn.
February 22, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, paco said: I blame @Dave Moss It’s misused now. Freedom in the American experiment always meant living without monarchical rule. In a democracy we vote for the best person for the job - what family they were born into doesn’t matter. And if they screw up we vote for someone else. Once monarchies faded away American-style capitalism was contrasted with fascist or communist governments where there were less "freedoms.” Nowadays though? I’m convinced a portion of the population thinks being able to call someone the n-word is what freedom is all about.
February 22, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: It’s misused now. Freedom in the American experiment always meant living without monarchical rule. In a democracy we vote for the best person for the job - what family they were born into doesn’t matter. Once monarchies faded away American-style capitalism was contrasted with fascist or communist governments where there were less "freedoms.” Nowadays though? I’m convinced a portion of the population thinks being able to call someone the n-word is what freedom is all about. That is freedom. You can call someone anything you want, and you shouldn't be put in jail/fined by the government. The 1st amendment is pretty clear on that. That doesn't mean you're free from consequences. Call someone the n-word on Twitter, and they can ban you. Your employer can fire you. Freedom to act is not the same as freedom of consequences from entities other than the government.
February 22, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: It’s misused now. Freedom in the American experiment always meant living without monarchical rule. In a democracy we vote for the best person for the job - what family they were born into doesn’t matter. And if they screw up we vote for someone else. Once monarchies faded away American-style capitalism was contrasted with fascist or communist governments where there were less "freedoms.” Nowadays though? I’m convinced a portion of the population thinks being able to call someone the n-word is what freedom is all about. Yup. Your fault.
February 22, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: It’s misused now. Freedom in the American experiment always meant living without monarchical rule. In a democracy we vote for the best person for the job - what family they were born into doesn’t matter. And if they screw up we vote for someone else. Once monarchies faded away American-style capitalism was contrasted with fascist or communist governments where there were less "freedoms.” Nowadays though? I’m convinced a portion of the population thinks being able to call someone the n-word is what freedom is all about. Oh yeah. Freedom to the far-right clearly means "freedom from consequences of my ignorant beliefs".
February 22, 20223 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Oh yeah. Freedom to the far-right clearly means "freedom from consequences of my ignorant beliefs". Right, that’s the rant against cancel culture in a nutshell.
February 22, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: Oh yeah. Freedom to the far-right clearly means "freedom from consequences of my ignorant beliefs". As stupid and hate-filled as always. Never change.
February 22, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: That is freedom. You can call someone anything you want, and you shouldn't be put in jail/fined by the government. The 1st amendment is pretty clear on that. That doesn't mean you're free from consequences. Call someone the n-word on Twitter, and they can ban you. Your employer can fire you. Freedom to act is not the same as freedom of consequences from entities other than the government. And you can expect to eventually get your teeth knocked out, and rightfully so. Of course, whoever does knock your teeth out will face the consequences for their actions, but will earn some admiration from the rest of us in the process.
February 22, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, The_Omega said: As stupid and hate-filled as always. Never change. Dafuq you talking about?
February 22, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Toastrel said: Not sure what part of this somebody found funny. the fact the he got caught is funny
February 22, 20223 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Dafuq you talking about? It has nothing to do with not facing consequences. Exactly the opposite. People who revere freedom are more than willing to face the consequences, they're against the government telling them what they can and can't do in the first place. Of course hate-filled simpletons like you just throw out antagonistic nonsense to justify your bigotry.
February 22, 20223 yr Just now, The_Omega said: It has nothing to do with not facing consequences. Exactly the opposite. People who revere freedom are more than willing to face the consequences, they're against the government telling them what they can and can't do in the first place. Of course hate-filled simpletons like you just throw out antagonistic nonsense to justify your bigotry. Don't worry, with our amazing president your freedoms will remain intact. You're welcome. I did that!
February 22, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Dave Moss said: It’s misused now. Freedom in the American experiment always meant living without monarchical rule. In a democracy we vote for the best person for the job - what family they were born into doesn’t matter. And if they screw up we vote for someone else. Once monarchies faded away American-style capitalism was contrasted with fascist or communist governments where there were less "freedoms.” Nowadays though? I’m convinced a portion of the population thinks being able to call someone the n-word is what freedom is all about. In this context (COVID-19), it's about the freedom to have others also suffer the consequences of your decisions.
February 22, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, M.C. said: In this context (COVID-19), it's about the freedom to have others also suffer the consequences of your decisions. I mean, if more people had gotten vaccinated the pandemic would have essentially been over in the U.S. six months ago. Admittedly, I haven’t kept track of Canada’s success or failure in that regard.
February 22, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, M.C. said: In this context (COVID-19), it's about the freedom to have others also suffer the consequences of your decisions. That's what the vaccines are for, isn't it?
February 22, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, The_Omega said: That's what the vaccines are for, isn't it? If enough people get 'em. 🙂
February 23, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, M.C. said: If enough people get 'em. 🙂 Imagine getting vaccinated and then spending all your time on this message board advocating for the rights of the unvaccinated. The Omega is a strange cat.
February 23, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Dave Moss said: I mean, if more people had gotten vaccinated the pandemic would have essentially been over in the U.S. six months ago. Admittedly, I haven’t kept track of Canada’s success or failure in that regard. You do understand this is not correct, right? You can’t be that stupid.
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