March 23, 20223 yr Author Working in a **** restaurant is not supposed to be a career choice... It's a job for high school and college kids. If you have years of experience, you can absolutely get a job at higher volume places..... They're practically begging people to come work for them.
March 23, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, paco said: $150 per day x 5 days x 4 weeks I'll have to ask around, but most people are not tipping 20% and most servers are not bringing home $150/night. Not reliably in any case 1 minute ago, iladelphxx said: Working in a **** restaurant is not supposed to be a career choice... Yeah, so I don't know why so many try to make it one.
March 23, 20223 yr Author We used to go to the diner after working at the bar and there would be 4-5 of us. We'd get the same waitress every time and we'd all tip $20 each and she'd walk away with $80-100 just from our table. For every **** tipper, there are just as many over tippers. It all balances out
March 23, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, paco said: $150 per day x 5 days x 4 weeks At 20%, you only need to serve $750 in food and drinks per day to hit $150. At establishments, like Applebee's, that serve alcohol, that's very easy to achieve. (I was taking this as a worst case scenario with the $150-$500 range that was given and only 4 weeks (28 days) vs 4.5 weeks to give it extra padding) i agree with you that an average night of tips at an applebees type place is 150+, however they are tipping the bar out from their tip too most likely. so that brings down a bit what theyre taking home
March 23, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, The_Omega said: It was inevitable that code pink would ignore the utterly asinine claim, by one of their leading light thinkers, that tipping is racist, then jump in to argue an irrelevant, tangential point about how much people actually do tip. Was this directed at me? Because I don't think you understood the exchange at all.
March 23, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I'll have to ask around, but most people are not tipping 20% and most servers are not bringing home $150/night. Not reliably in any case Please do. I'm only going by knowing how we dine and we never get out for $35 before tip. (even when we go to a Bahama Breeze or whatever) I have no hands on institutional knowledge. Like this: 1 minute ago, BFit said: i agree with you that an average night of tips at an applebees type place is 150+, however they are tipping the bar out from their tip too most likely. so that brings down a bit what theyre taking home
March 23, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I'll have to ask around, but most people are not tipping 20% and most servers are not bringing home $150/night. Not reliably in any case Yeah, so I don't know why so many try to make it one. id definitely say most people are tipping 20%+. and theres a good amount of people that i know that tip over because they think theyre compensating for sheet tippers
March 23, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, The_Omega said: It was inevitable that code pink would ignore the utterly asinine claim, by one of their leading light thinkers, that tipping is racist, then jump in to argue an irrelevant, tangential point about how much people actually do tip. i was wondering when we could get back to this ida bae wells dipsheet.
March 23, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, BFit said: id definitely say most people are tipping 20%+. and theres a good amount of people that i know that tip over because they think theyre compensating for sheet tippers Have you served recently? Maybe it's changed in the pandemic, but when I served, 20% was the best you could hope for. 15% was at least satisfactory, but average was probably more like 12-13%, and that's before tipshare. I didn't have a lot of instances where people went over 20%, and I busted my ass.
March 23, 20223 yr My pops and I use to go down to Myrtle Beach every year after Thanksgiving for a golf trip. We would get off the plane and head to a TGI Fridays every single year. Why? Well, 1, our hotel wasn't ready for check in and 2, my sister and brother in law would go to their TGI Fridays a LOT. So we would collect $$$ from family members, belly up to the bar for a beer and a bite, and then get over $500 in gift cards for family members to give out at Christmas. Every single time we would make the bartenders year because they would have a contest who could sell the most gift cards and there would be a prize like a TV or something. We were told with that amount that we bought would make them pretty much a lock. 1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Have you served recently? Maybe it's changed in the pandemic, but when I served, 20% was the best you could hope for. 15% was at least satisfactory, but average was probably more like 12-13%, and that's before tipshare. I didn't have a lot of instances where people went over 20% Even when I was a poor college kid I tipped 20% Everyone should tip 20% (unless they really really suck) for no other reason than the math is easy.
March 23, 20223 yr i also have to think that servers are making a good % more right now compared to 3 years ago. covid drove peoples tips up, i know a lot of people (myself and wife included) that were tipping more than usual for delivery and take out, and that has kind of just carried over to normal life.
March 23, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: I gotta learn to stop reading so fast. At first, I thought you said you got a bad taste in your mouth from nude patrons. /thread
March 23, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Have you served recently? Maybe it's changed in the pandemic, but when I served, 20% was the best you could hope for. 15% was at least satisfactory, but average was probably more like 12-13%, and that's before tipshare. I didn't have a lot of instances where people went over 20% Were you constantly talking ish about Florida and the ills of capitalism during the meal or something?
March 23, 20223 yr 52 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It's been over 10 years since I worked in the industry, but I never worked anywhere high-end. Most shifts were about 4 or 5 hours on average, tables were usually 2-4 people in a 4-table section, and a typical 20% tip was between $5-$7, but most people don't tip 20% anyway (especially at the low-end places). Personal experience, but most servers I've known were not anywhere close to raking it in. Plenty of nights where you left with $40 or less and a bad taste in your mouth from rude patrons. For years my wife worked part time (Saturdays) at a mom and pop restaurant - country style food. Her shift was 3 hours - she regularly brought home $200+ Maybe you just sucked as a server
March 23, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Have you served recently? Maybe it's changed in the pandemic, but when I served, 20% was the best you could hope for. 15% was at least satisfactory, but average was probably more like 12-13%, and that's before tipshare. I didn't have a lot of instances where people went over 20% Well, maybe you should have been better at your job. I always tip 20-35%.
March 23, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Have you served recently? Maybe it's changed in the pandemic, but when I served, 20% was the best you could hope for. 15% was at least satisfactory, but average was probably more like 12-13%, and that's before tipshare. I didn't have a lot of instances where people went over 20% i never served, but i have spent ample time in small, seedy establisments, bars and diners and befriended plenty of the staff at these places. most people were tipping 20+, and i say plus cause because leaving a 10 for a $35 bill seemed normal. i used to tip $5 and my bills were consistantly under $20
March 23, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Were you constantly talking ish about Florida during the meal and talking about the ills of capitalism or something? Lol, no. Just now, mikemack8 said: Maybe you just sucked as a server 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Well, maybe you should have been better at your job. I always tip 20-35%. No, I completely busted my ass all the time. The problem was working at $hitty chain restaurants with literally the worst customer base you could imagine. Picture your nightmare of Wal-Mart patrons out to eat. But whatever, I was a college student and it was a job.
March 23, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: Were you constantly talking ish about Florida and the ills of capitalism during the meal or something? "Before I let you know what our specials are for this evening, can you please tell me your thoughts on $15/hr minimum wage?" "I'll be right back with your drinks - I just need to make a quick stop at the restroom to deal with this swamp ass"
March 23, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Lol, no. No, I completely busted my ass all the time. The problem was working at $hitty chain restaurants with literally the worst customer base you could imagine. Picture your nightmare of Wal-Mart patrons out to eat. But whatever, I was a college student and it was a job. Yeah chain restaurants probably have worse tippers - crappier food, cheaper patrons. This place she worked at is a hole in the wall but has a huge following for whatever reason. One of their specials is filled pig stomach once a month - people drive HOURS to eat some of their stuff.
March 23, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, BFit said: i never served, but i have spent ample time in small, seedy establisments, bars and diners and befriended plenty of the staff at these places. most people were tipping 20+, and i say plus cause because leaving a 10 for a $35 bill seemed normal. i used to tip $5 and my bills were consistantly under $20 I feel like it's a little easier to develop those relationships in a local, independent establishment. I worked Outback Steakhouse in Harrisburg for a couple years though, and, yeah...those people were not friendly. Even the proprietor was a jerk. 6 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: "I'll be right back with your drinks - I just need to make a quick stop at the restroom to deal with this swamp ass" Honestly, you don't even know. That kitchen at Outback was often over 110 degrees most of the summer, and I was constantly running food in and out of it. So, yeah....
March 23, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Lol, no. No, I completely busted my ass all the time. The problem was working at $hitty chain restaurants with literally the worst customer base you could imagine. Picture your nightmare of Wal-Mart patrons out to eat. But whatever, I was a college student and it was a job. obviously you didnt wear enough flair.
March 23, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Yeah chain restaurants probably have worse tippers - crappier food, cheaper patrons. This place she worked at is a hole in the wall but has a huge following for whatever reason. One of their specials is filled pig stomach once a month - people drive HOURS to eat some of their stuff. The worst were the people that are rude, don't tip, and then decide that they want to sit at the table for 3 hours after finishing their food and not order anything other than water refills as they sap 1/4 of your seating capacity the rest of the evening.
March 23, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Have you served recently? Maybe it's changed in the pandemic, but when I served, 20% was the best you could hope for. 15% was at least satisfactory, but average was probably more like 12-13%, and that's before tipshare. I didn't have a lot of instances where people went over 20%, and I busted my ass. Agreed with this. Location also sways things quite a bit. When I was young the standard was 15%, I usually always tipped 18-20% or more unless the service was terrible. A number of years ago I went out in Philly with a friend and he grabbed my hand when I went to tip 20% on some drinks because he said in the city it was typical to tip 25+. So I tipped more. He was also a guy that liked to pretend he was a high roller so that might have factored into it a bit. Now 20% seems to be more standard in central PA.
March 23, 20223 yr Author Back when I was working in bars in the early 2000's most bartenders on an average weeknight shifts would probably ring between $500-1500. At 20%,that bartender is taking home $100-300 in tips and probably a $40-60 shift pay. On the weekends, or during Eagles games, etc, bartenders could make $400-600,easy. I knew Catholic School teachers who would make more bartending down Wildwood for 4-5 months than they would at their day job
March 23, 20223 yr Just now, iladelphxx said: Back when I was working in bars in the early 2000's most bartenders on an average weeknight shifts at a local bar probably ring between $500-1500. At 20%,that bartender is taking home $100-300 in tips and probably a $40-60 shift pay. On the weekends, or during Eagles games, etc, bartenders could make $400-600,easy. I knew Catholic School teachers who would make more bartending down Wildwood for 4-5 months than they would at their day job College towns, sports bars in big cities, and tourist traps are definitely the sweet spots to serve. I don't get why some of these people struggling on serving wages in small towns don't just move to a city, seems like they'd be a lot better off financially. Teacher pay at Catholic schools is pretty low, though, so it's not incredibly hard to outdo that.
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