10 minutes ago, paco said:

Eh... I wouldn't go that far.  I think its far more likely that this was an over reaction by someone given the current hyper sensitive state of race relations

Sorry I dont buy it

Bubba Wallace was a victim of circumstance here, but he chose to just ignore the fact that it wasn't a noose and double down on his take that there were somehow racial overtones

My opinion is that Nascar blew this majorly.  You mean to tell me the dozens and dozens of mechanically-savvy men somehow didnt notice that what people were calling a noose was simply a rope???

Where were these people?  Someone couldnt stand up and say "uh, hold on here, I saw the rope and it wasnt a noose"

I just dont know, and we'll never know, how this went from someone seeing a rope to getting a bunch of FBI agents to investigate this "hate crime"

Just giving people a pass because of the "sensitive state of race relations" is a cop out.  Its why people are making memes this morning.  Because someone turned off their brain and decided to make a scandal out of nothing so that they could be a hero

4 minutes ago, BFit said:

i mean, he was pulled into a meeting with NASCAR, they told him a hate crime was being investigated, and they showed him the noose which the FBI cut down for evidence. 

Thats true, and Im right there with him up until the point where the FBI determined that absolutely nothing heinous happened here, and yet he still decided that there was racism involved

Its like, dude, just admit that this wasnt what happened.  Literally no one would blame him for reacting how he did. But its obvious it was all a mistake, yet hes just running with it anyway because he already hyped himself up to be a social justice icon.

5 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

I was in agreement with you until this morning when he is running around stating he doesn't agree with the FBI findings. Eh come on dude. You arent responsible for nascars stupidity but you sort of making yourself look like a idiot now.

 

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Thats true, and Im right there with him up until the point where the FBI determined that absolutely nothing heinous happened here, and yet he still decided that there was racism involved

Its like, dude, just admit that this wasnt what happened.  Literally no one would blame him for reacting how he did. But its obvious it was all a mistake, yet hes just running with it anyway because he already hyped himself up to be a social justice icon.

where did he say this?

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Thats true, and Im right there with him up until the point where the FBI determined that absolutely nothing heinous happened here, and yet he still decided that there was racism involved

Ding ding ding

21 minutes ago, rambo said:

 

30 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Thats true, and Im right there with him up until the point where the FBI determined that absolutely nothing heinous happened here, and yet he still decided that there was racism involved

Its like, dude, just admit that this wasnt what happened.  Literally no one would blame him for reacting how he did. But its obvious it was all a mistake, yet hes just running with it anyway because he already hyped himself up to be a social justice icon.

Yea if he’s still playing a victim F him. But I would say it was a noose from what I can see. Not one intended for him but that’s why the investigation happened. Him being upset that a noose was in his garage only a little after the confederate flag being banned is fine and normal. Now knowing the full details move on with your life Bubba and win a race. 

By definition, a noose draws tight when under load.  I doubt whoever tied that garage pull tied it in a way that when you grabbed the LOOP to pull on the door, it tightened around your fingers.

It's not a noose. 

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

So you came to a different conclusion than the FBI investigators? Amazin!

 

You saw the FBIs conclusion? I’m going by what NASCAR said. The noose existed but it was there long before this week-end, and not directed at Wallace. 

Clearly, track maintenance workers need better training into how to properly, culturally sensitively, tie a garage door pull down knot.

14 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

Apparently none of these people calling it a noose have ever owned a garage?

Or we just never tied the ends of our garage door ropes in the shape of a noose. 

1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said:

Or we just never tied the ends of our garage door ropes in the shape of a noose. 

Dude...

 

3 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Or we just never tied the ends of our garage door ropes in the shape of a noose. 

1/2 of cvon ties their shoelaces like this:  

nbd.

 

 

Just now, mr_hunt said:

1/2 of cvon ties their shoelaces like this:  

nbd.

 

 

Yeah, but that’s not a noose because it isn’t hangin out in the open. 

11 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

I was very curious about this piece, so I looked it up: https://onezero.medium.com/a-dna-test-told-me-im-white-here-s-why-it-s-wrong-9e6b20f128e4

The above cut off the next line which specifically points out that the mentality she's talking about ('you're acting white') being problematic, though it's not what she was discussing in that post:
 

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The idea behind it is that if you speak like a white person or do things that white people do, then you are shirking all of your other identities and turning your back on your culture. This piece isn’t about why this particular issue is a problem in communities of color, but it does play a significant role in how I feel about my DNA test results.

 

The summary of her writeup basically is that even though her DNA test said she was (slightly) majority white (36% european, 30% sub-saharan africa, and 28% east asian/native american), she has never been treated or viewed as "white" racially or ethnically socially. She's been treated variously as "Latinx" or "black" depending on which group she was with, and often specifically ostracized by one or the other depending on the group.

I know this undercuts the intent of sharing just the first "explosive" couple lines, but I thought someone might actually give a crap about what she was saying and which parts she was saying about her.

10 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

By definition, a noose draws tight when under load.  I doubt whoever tied that garage pull tied it in a way that when you grabbed the LOOP to pull on the door, it tightened around your fingers.

It's not a noose. 

if its a tight noose, it wont tighten on your fingers just by pulling a garage door down

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I was very curious about this piece, so I looked it up: https://onezero.medium.com/a-dna-test-told-me-im-white-here-s-why-it-s-wrong-9e6b20f128e4

The above cut off the next line which specifically points out that the mentality she's talking about ('you're acting white') being problematic, though it's not what she was discussing in that post:
 

 

The summary of her writeup basically is that even though her DNA test said she was (slightly) majority white (36% european, 30% sub-saharan africa, and 28% east asian/native american), she has never been treated or viewed as "white" racially or ethnically socially. She's been treated variously as "Latinx" or "black" depending on which group she was with, and often specifically ostracized by one or the other depending on the group.

I know this undercuts the intent of sharing just the first "explosive" couple lines, but I thought someone might actually give a crap about what she was saying and which parts she was saying about her.

Because there is no advantage for her to identify as white. 

It would hurt her chances of getting into college or gaining government employment 

OMFG....the triggering over a ukn’ string to shut a garage door with a loop tied in it that the FBI said wasn’t a noose, hate crime or insensitive joke.... 

2 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

Because there is no advantage for her to identify as white. 

It would hurt her chances of getting into college or gaining government employment 

sure, why read what she wrote when you can just make a bunch of false assumptions.

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

sure, why read what she wrote when you can just make a bunch of false assumptions.

Because I don't care what she has to say 

2 minutes ago, bobeph said:

OMFG....the triggering over a ukn’ string to shut a garage door with a loop tied in it that the FBI said wasn’t a noose, hate crime or insensitive joke.... 

Thinking there should be discussion of a noose and noose like knots ban. 

7 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

Because there is no advantage for her to identify as white. 

It would hurt her chances of getting into college or gaining government employment 

I'm sure when she developed her identity as a child, she was thinking deeply about how it would effect her education and future employment.  Or maybe she thought she was black because she looks black.

16 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

By definition, a noose draws tight when under load.  I doubt whoever tied that garage pull tied it in a way that when you grabbed the LOOP to pull on the door, it tightened around your fingers.

It's not a noose. 

 

5 minutes ago, BFit said:

if its a tight noose, it wont tighten on your fingers just by pulling a garage door down

If I’m gonna trust anyone on here about noose tying techniques it’s gonna be bfit.