December 8, 20222 yr TEW is right, nominating and electing Donald F'ing Trump is very much the epitome of a political party "dipping its toes" into basically anything, rather than leaping in with both feet.
December 8, 20222 yr 14 minutes ago, TEW said: McCarthy was run out of his own party despite being right, and Trump is the most obvious example of what I wrote about. Basically a self own set of examples by you. You don't like McCarthy and Trump because...reasons? Then Newt Gingrich will do. The party that started an investigation into a real estate deal and then transformed it into an impeachment proceeding based on a BJ has no business pretending like they don't use the mechanisms of government to attack their political rivals. Republicans are the kings of it and have been since way before they started down the path of anti-conservatism. But I don't know what I expected from a recovering Accelerationist.
December 8, 20222 yr 25 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You don't like McCarthy and Trump because...reasons? Then Newt Gingrich will do. The party that started an investigation into a real estate deal and then transformed it into an impeachment proceeding based on a BJ has no business pretending like they don't use the mechanisms of government to attack their political rivals. Republicans are the kings of it and have been since way before they started down the path of anti-conservatism. But I don't know what I expected from a recovering Accelerationist. Newt/Clinton was probably the first example of true right wing exercise of political power vs its political adversaries. But that came decades after the left started utilizing it. It’s a shame it took them 50 years to do so — they should have had firing squads in the 40’s and 50’s for commies. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure… And no recovery here — I want to go full bore into the abyss! I support what Chicago is doing! Let the criminals run the streets! Cali? Why stop at $250K for people who were never slaves? Surely their non existent slavery is worth a quadrillion each! Butt plug usage taught by the pronoun people at schools? Surely state enforced homosexuality is the only answer for society!
December 8, 20222 yr 4 minutes ago, TEW said: Newt/Clinton was probably the first example of true right wing exercise of political power vs its political adversaries. But that came decades after the left started utilizing it. It’s a shame it took them 50 years to do so — they should have had firing squads in the 40’s and 50’s for commies. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure… Ah, so when you said Quote the right tepidly dips its toes into true political waters of power… you were pretending like it's currently the early 90's? Dude, just face it, Republicans are the kings of this and have been since the Republican Revolution successfully coordinated the right wing media, the religious right and rabid fanatics in Congress to use the power of the government to maintain political power. They had no need to abandon conservatism altogether. But they did anyway. And Cotton, for some reason, wanted to make sure everyone knows it.
December 8, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Ah, so when you said you were pretending like it's currently the early 90's? Dude, just face it, Republicans are the kings of this and have been since the Republican Revolution successfully coordinated the right wing media, the religious right and rabid fanatics in Congress to use the power of the government to maintain political power. They had no need to abandon conservatism altogether. But they did anyway. And Cotton, for some reason, wanted to make sure everyone knows it. Oh, they have every need to abandon principles — destroy your enemy first, impose your principles second.
December 8, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, TEW said: Oh, they have every need to abandon principles — destroy your enemy first, impose your principles second. Right, we have to transform the US into a fascist sheet hole in order to save it. It makes so much sense now. Meanwhile, all this was for nothing. Republicans pretending like they were somehow this washed up non-viable party before they went full fascist is completely out of step with reality. They lost 2 straight Presidential elections. Boo-hoo. Happens all the time. Dems lost 3 straight in the 80's and they didn't abandon every principle they had over it. Republicans are just huge bishes. And, at this point, they're considerably worse off for having abandoned those principles. But they won't turn back because they don't know how to moderate.
December 8, 20222 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Right, we have to transform the US into a fascist sheet hole in order to save it. It makes so much sense now. Meanwhile, all this was for nothing. Republicans pretending like they were somehow this washed out non-viable party before they went full fascist is completely out of step with reality. They lost 2 straight Presidential elections. Boo-hoo. Happens all the time. Dems lost 3 straight in the 80's and they didn't abandon every principle they had over it. Republicans are just huge bishes. And, at this point, they're considerably worse off for having abandoned those principles. But they won't turn back because they don't know how to moderate. Fascism? Hell — I’ll settle for beautiful architecture and the trains running on time. Let’s not get too ambitious!
December 8, 20222 yr 6 minutes ago, TEW said: Fascism? Hell — I’ll settle for beautiful architecture and the trains running on time. Let’s not get too ambitious! Over the course of 1 page, you've gone from "Dems are using Nootsie tactics" to, "Yes, I'm a fascist". Never change, TEW.
December 8, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, TEW said: You’re missing the point. Politics boils down to friend/enemy. That’s it. Forget ideology — that’s a different thing from politics. The left in America embraced this distinction immediately after WW2, while the right continued to play by ideological norms, despite the political theory ostensibly coming from its own distant cousin. This meant the left embracing the teachings of a literal NSDAP in order to destroy any semblance of traditional America. But now they are spazzing that the right does the same, while the right tepidly dips its toes into true political waters of power… meanwhile their political opponents — the left — fully embraced the political theory of the right’s distant political cousin and mortal enemy of the left. If you can’t appreciate the irony on both sides, you just don’t have a sense of humor… You think it was only the left that embraced this notion of "othering" - which is really what Schmitt is boiling it down to, making anyone who is not politically aligned an enemy - in the 20th century? that's bonkers. McCarthyism, the broad labeling of any left-of-center politician as "a communist" which persisted decades beyond the red scare, the Southern Strategy all are prime examples of the conservative wing employing this in politics. One could maybe argue there was a brief respite in the late 70s/early 80s, but then we're carried into the New Gingrich era where again political opposition is demonized and enemied, which carries through to this day where Trump really drove that home - and his supporters loved him for it (even if it ends up that Trump was so polarizing that his plurality is not enough to win nationally). This is some seriously tortured logic trying to spin the political theories of a man who was considered a conservative voice into them having been adopted by "the left". The "friend-enemy" relationship in politics is ALWAYS there, all the changes is how strongly it's leaned on by a given candidate or party. And BOTH parties are guilty of plenty of demonization and othering over the last few decades.
December 8, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, TEW said: McCarthy was run out of his own party despite being right, and Trump is the most obvious example of what I wrote about. Basically a self own set of examples by you. Jesus Christ dude, you're literally doubling down on stupid here. McCarthy was riding pretty high in the Republican party with the red scare, until he took it too far. His popularity was increasing up until the Welch line.
December 8, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Jesus Christ dude, you're literally doubling down on stupid here. McCarthy was riding pretty high in the Republican party with the red scare, until he took it too far. His popularity was increasing up until the Welch line. His mistake was not taking it far enough and the GOPs problem was not supporting him enough. Literally. If we had just thrown all the commies in the ocean our country wouldn’t be so F’d up today.
December 8, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, TEW said: His mistake was not taking it far enough and the GOPs problem was not supporting him enough. Literally. If we had just thrown all the commies in the ocean our country wouldn’t be so F’d up today. ah, yes, so you're saying that Republican's main problem is that they didn't adopt the friend-enemy theories of the aforementioned not-zee political writer enough. gotcha.
December 8, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: ah, yes, so you're saying that Republican's main problem is that they didn't adopt the friend-enemy theories of the aforementioned not-zee political writer enough. gotcha. omfg he tripled down ...
December 8, 20222 yr 10 minutes ago, TEW said: His mistake was not taking it far enough and the GOPs problem was not supporting him enough. Literally. If we had just thrown all the people we decided to call commies in the ocean our country wouldn’t be so F’d up today. Fixed.
December 8, 20222 yr 10 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: ah, yes, so you're saying that Republican's main problem is that they didn't adopt the friend-enemy theories of the aforementioned not-zee political writer enough. gotcha. Literally, yes. Like, you say this sarcastically, but this imbalance is literally what happened — the left embraced it earlier and to a far greater degree than the right, and the right is now playing catch-up.
December 8, 20222 yr 13 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: ah, yes, so you're saying that Republican's main problem is that they didn't adopt the friend-enemy theories of the aforementioned not-zee political writer enough. gotcha. He's so dumb
December 8, 20222 yr 6 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Fixed. Well, yes, clearly — not all commie heretics will publicly repent without motivation. Water board the suspects and their relatives until the truth is known.
December 8, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: Well, yes, clearly — not all commie heretics will publicly repent without motivation. Water board the suspects and their relatives until the truth is known. Problem is, you wackos call everyone who disagrees with you a commie. Which is probably why you support this position in the first place. Also, I know you are trying to look super edgy right now, but you are actually coming across as retarded. Just a heads up.
December 8, 20222 yr 8 minutes ago, TEW said: Well, yes, clearly — not all commie heretics will publicly repent without motivation. Water board the suspects and their relatives until the truth is known. this guy
December 8, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: He's trying! defending a POS like mccarthy is right up there with some of the stupidest sheet i ever seen on this board, and that is saying something.
December 8, 20222 yr 10 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Problem is, you wackos call everyone who disagrees with you a commie. Which is probably why you support this position in the first place. Also, I know you are trying to look super edgy right now, but you are actually coming across as retarded. Just a heads up. It’s not a problem. It’s a solution.
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