1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

yikes...i skip watching the news over the weekend & miss stuff like this.  nothing wrong with them protecting their property, imo. need to be a lot more careful where they're aiming their firearms though. 

is this a huge news story or something?    

and c'mon....you gotta wear something more intimidating that khaki's & a pink polo when you're defending your property with an assault rifle 15!    put on a hoodie, brah! 

24 minutes ago, Kz! said:

The truth of the matter is that a mob of angry children that's been known to burn things and assault people trespassed in a gated community, and rather than be angry at them, you've decided to direct your ire at people who were defending their home probably because that's how the news media told you to feel. lmao

generalizations are wrong regardless. those "known to burn things and assault people" are looters and rioters. the people passing through the gated community were doing just that - walking through. 

it's not my fault that some of you decide anyone who protests are the same as rioters and looters. nor do I learn "how to feel" from the media. I saw the picture of the couple posted variously online, and started to read various local articles and watched (full) video on what happened. 

I have no issue with people protecting their homes and visibly open carrying to do so. that's been happening all over the nation - even if what they've been protecting is a statue or a park:

 

I'd prefer this wasn't where we were, but it is what it is. 

the issue with the couple above is, again, that THEY POINTED THE WEAPONS, WITH FINGERS ON TRIGGER, AT PROTESTERS WALKING BY. that woman was a finger-squeeze away from discharging a gun at a group of protesters walking by.

if you don't see a difference between the people in the picture above, who have their muzzles down, and this woman waving a loaded gun with her finger on the trigger at people walking past, I don't know what to tell you.

 

 

Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

I don't know all of what preceded this, but the guy in the green shirt (it says all lives matter btw) was both taunting and being taunted by some of the protesters who were marching on the Louis IX statue (who St. Louis is named after). at some point the green shirted guy got pink liquid thrown on him (wrong) and things escalated.

the guy in the blue bandana was involved in other altercations. seems like he was looking for a reason to fight, and he should have been arrested because it didn't appear - from the videos that I saw - that there were many people looking to escalate this, but he was.

 

Video shows the protestors on their steps..... trespassing on private property

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

generalizations are wrong regardless. those "known to burn things and assault people" are looters and rioters. the people passing through the gated community were doing just that - walking through. 

The people "passing through the gated community" (lmfao) were trespassing. They were just peacefully trespassing in a gated community. And that's kind of the thing, it's hard to know which people are the rioters and looters when they attend these protests and could literally start rioting and looting at any moment. That's why you see people armed outside their homes. And guess what? They didn't shoot anyone no matter how hurt your feelings got that they'd have the nerve to stand outside protecting their home.

By the way..... this house is Baller as F

https://www.stlmag.com/design/a-decades-long-renovation-returns-a-midwestern-palazzo-to-it/

4 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

 

Video shows the protestors on their steps..... trespassing on private property

damn...that's a nice crib. ambulance chasing makes mad cheddah! 

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

yikes...i skip watching the news over the weekend & miss stuff like this.  nothing wrong with them protecting their property, imo. need to be a lot more careful where they're aiming their firearms though. 

is this a huge news story or something?    

not really "huge", but I saw it on reddit and started to look into what happened.

all of the top responses are about how it's clear they have no idea about gun safety: 

 

 

I get that it was a "gated" community, but I've walked through a number of these communities in St. Louis. they're pretty well known, and they get a lot of foot traffic from people who just want to gawk at the mansions. calling it a "gated community" gives some false implication that it's not normally accessible to the public, and that's just false.

https://www.stlmag.com/history/architecture/private-streets-of-st-louis/

https://www.timesnewspapers.com/westendword/news/tour-central-west-end-146-s-portland-place/article_cb9e93f9-9049-57e8-9c18-cb1b6a1b047c.html

I’ll concede that the wife was waving that gun around a little too much. She also moved closer to them

But a gated community is so this doesn’t happen. If it’s a private place then the protestors shouldn’t have been there

I thought that in a "gated community” you need a code or something to even get in.  There are neighborhoods that have gates around them but it’s pretty much just for appearance.  They are not "gated communities” in the true meaning of the phrase.

1 minute ago, bobeph said:

I thought that in a "gated community” you need a code or something to even get in.  There are neighborhoods that have gates around them but it’s pretty much just for appearance.  They are not "gated communities” in the true meaning of the phrase.

they were originally created to keep out the riff-raff (basically for rich whites to keep out blacks), so there is definitely a history of that. but most are no longer strictly enforced as gated communities, and while they are not technically open to the public it's also not uncommon for them to get foot traffic.

they're part of the history of St. Louis. it's pretty interesting, their history, and some of the architecture is absolutely amazing. 

I wish I could recall which streets I walked down when I was there. I don't recall them by name, though I'm reasonably certain that Portland Place wasn't one of them as they don't appear familiar to me. I remember the buildings far better than I remember the street names.

Meanwhile, in New York.... 

 

I lived in a gated community and you needed a transponder to get through. And we had a guard at the gate. That’s what I think of when I hear the term. 

 

that gate didn't stop anybody...maybe they need to BUILD A WALL!  

A lot of gated communities in my neighborhood don’t have security guards.  And actually the ones with guards often do have high walls too.  (I live in the Energy Corridor in West Houston)

The woman wasn't being responsible with the gun, didn't look like she knew how to handle it, and shouldn't have been waving it around.  Also she was dumb, walking out onto the grass and potentially putting herself in harms way and escalating the situation.  They have a right to own firearms and a right to stand on their own private property holding them and that should be enough of a deterrent.  

They aren’t even wearing shoes - they’re super ready to go to war  

Just now, binkybink77 said:

I lived in a gated community and you needed a transponder to get through. And we had a guard at the gate. That’s what I think of when I hear the term. 

I think it depends on which community in St. Louis, because there were so many of them. 

This is across the street from Portland Pl. (where the protesters walked through), a "gated' street but clearly open to foot traffic:

 

To be fair, Portland Place itself certainly appears more locked down, though there's no guard that I can see (I moved around that one building to the right, there is no window actually watching anyone going in and out, so while it may have been a guard house at some point it appears to be just decorative at this point):

I have not seen anything indicating they "broke in", so my assumption has been that they were walking through on their way to the mayor's office. 

the full story of what they were protesting: https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/couple-points-guns-at-protesters-st-louis/63-915a4a2f-071f-4f01-b5b8-398790d615ca

basically, the mayor released names and addresses of individuals who messaged her about defunding the police: https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/st-louis-mayor-lyda-krewson-reads-names-protesters/63-912b9c6a-8bbf-4d7a-b015-fbb1a6b48db3

the whole #DefundThePolice movement is incredibly stupid to me; at minimum it's terrible marketing and at worst it's going backwards on making necessary reforms to the police. but doxxing your citizens also seems pretty crappy.

Looks pretty Fing gated to me....

 

 

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

The woman wasn't being responsible with the gun, didn't look like she knew how to handle it, and shouldn't have been waving it around.  Also she was dumb, walking out onto the grass and potentially putting herself in harms way and escalating the situation.  They have a right to own firearms and a right to stand on their own private property holding them and that should be enough of a deterrent.  

right. that's all I'm saying. and if they had stayed on their terrace, making it clear they had weapons but not literally swinging the weapon wildly in the direction of the protesters, this video and story would have gotten no traction.

I have little doubt that 100s, perhaps 1,000s, of people have open carried, standing on their porches or stoops, in front of their homes and businesses as protests walked past in a show of force to prevent rioting/looting. they didn't make the news because they didn't wave their muzzles threateningly at protesters while demonstrating little knowledge of firearm safety.

wtf, just found out McDonald's Twitter is now named "Amplifying Black Voices" and they're posting videos about black trans women. This might be peak 20202.

 

4 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

They aren’t even wearing shoes - they’re super ready to go to war  

the whole thing is ridiculous. that's why it's been getting a lot of traction - the memes alone are already pretty great.

some rich, ivory tower city slickers who clearly have no idea how to use guns that they probably just purchased running around their multi-million dollar property (without shoes) and brandishing it in the direction of all this "riff-raff". 

these are the types of "elitists" that bible-belters rail against, and normally would be the butt of jokes. but here we see many leaping to their defense. strange.

4 minutes ago, Kz! said:

wtf, just found out McDonald's Twitter is now named "Amplifying Black Voices" and they're posting videos about black trans women. This might be peak 20202.

Who cares?

5 minutes ago, TEW said:

 

 

doxxing isn't cool. 

funny part about this is they're probably democrats; most in the legal profession are.