12 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Smh.  Joe Rogan is among the least biased personalities in the public theater.  How anyone can call him "alt-right” is beyond logic and devoid of rational thought:  

Dude considers himself a liberal, but because he dares to speak against sjws, antifa, cancel culture, etc... he is alt right apparently

29 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Free tents and sleeping bags now!!! And throw in some marshmallows  while you’re  at it!!!

15 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Free tents and sleeping bags now!!! And throw in some marshmallows  while you’re  at it!!!

 

The whole point of camping is roughing it.  How much freaking gear do you need?

15 minutes ago, TEW said:

 

The whole point of camping is roughing it.  How much freaking gear do you need?

Im of the same mind set.  Of course an air mattress is a must have for me now days. 

11 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Im of the same mind set.  Of course an air mattress is a must have for me now days. 

If you can't shell out a few hundred bucks for a tent, sleeping bag, ax and knife, you should probably be working a weekend job rather than going camping.

3 hours ago, paco said:

Dude considers himself a liberal, but because he dares to speak against sjws, antifa, cancel culture, etc... he is alt right apparently

It just shows how weak their mentality is.  Most of them should be consulting psychologists instead of posting online, imo.  

10 hours ago, NOTW said:

That's dumb as hell.

Camping can get expensive if you are more of a "Glamper", but the barriers to entry for camping can still be pretty damn low. For less than $1k you can easily get all the equipment you'd need to have a comfortable tent camping experience.

If $1k is not feasible, you probably should look into a staycation and maybe sharpening your marketable skills rather than worrying about the cost of camping.

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

That's dumb as hell.

Camping can get expensive if you are more of a "Glamper", but the barriers to entry for camping can still be pretty damn low. For less than $1k you can easily get all the equipment you'd need to have a comfortable tent camping experience.

If $1k is not feasible, you probably should look into a staycation and maybe sharpening your marketable skills rather than worrying about the cost of camping.

A grand? Hell you can buy a tent for 80, sleeping bag for 30, bed roll for 15, good knives and a hatchet for 100, and some outdoor cook wear for like 50

Everything you need for 300

14 minutes ago, BFit said:

A grand? Hell you can buy a tent for 80, sleeping bag for 30, bed roll for 15, good knives and a hatchet for 100, and some outdoor cook wear for like 50

Everything you need for 300

Sure, you can get away with less. But I'm also thinking 1) family camping not solo, and 2) the other associates costs (gas, food, if you camp somewhere that costs $$, beer or, if you are a bottom, white claw)

If you want to do more than just put up a tent and hike you'll spend a little more. But $1k for a vacation getaway is nothing.

bwahahahaha

On 8/22/2020 at 3:07 PM, DEagle7 said:

I'd argue that a big part of the reason that elected officials like Hitler and Putin went bad is because they became more authoritarian  

Hitler was  "bad"  wayyyyy before he was elected.  His hatred of Jews goes back to his youth when he was denied entry into the Jewish controlled art school in Vienna . . . very likely it was even earlier than that.  All the other stuff came later.

In any event, most of the evil that Hitler unleashed upon the world was itemized & documented in his book "Mein Kampf" which was written in 1924 and published in 1925.  It was based upon the perceived evils that the Jews, the French, Communists and whomever else he hated had visited upon the German people.  

And a few words on PC, if you please:

 

52 minutes ago, McNabbIsDone said:

And a few words on PC, if you please:

 

Agreed.

https://www.axios.com/jeff-flake-republicans-for-biden-gop-convention-a9d89ac3-0c0e-41d8-b242-efcf75a99270.html

oh snap

3 hours ago, McNabbIsDone said:

Hitler was  "bad"  wayyyyy before he was elected.  His hatred of Jews goes back to his youth when he was denied entry into the Jewish controlled art school in Vienna . . . very likely it was even earlier than that.  All the other stuff came later.

In any event, most of the evil that Hitler unleashed upon the world was itemized & documented in his book "Mein Kampf" which was written in 1924 and published in 1925.  It was based upon the perceived evils that the Jews, the French, Communists and whomever else he hated had visited upon the German people.  

He wasn't elected because of his hatred of the Jews. 

His hatred of the Jews also wasn't a disqualifying trait.

He was elected through grievance politics. The narrative he spun was the Germany was great, that people should be proud to be German (playing on nationalist tones), and that the economic difficulties faced by Germany was because of "others" like the those who "humiliated" Germany at Versailles, Jews, or basically anyone who disagreed with his view.

Germany was a beaten down nation that had been, in living memory at the time, a confederation united under the great Bismarck that had shown great promise, snuffed out by failures in WWI. It was this sentiment - this grievance of promises lost - that Hitler tapped into.

4 hours ago, McNabbIsDone said:

Hitler was  "bad"  wayyyyy before he was elected.  His hatred of Jews goes back to his youth when he was denied entry into the Jewish controlled art school in Vienna . . . very likely it was even earlier than that.  All the other stuff came later.

In any event, most of the evil that Hitler unleashed upon the world was itemized & documented in his book "Mein Kampf" which was written in 1924 and published in 1925.  It was based upon the perceived evils that the Jews, the French, Communists and whomever else he hated had visited upon the German people.  

Not really.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler explicitly states that his views towards Jews did not develop until some time after he was told to go to architecture school instead of art school (due to being better at drawing and sketching than painting and his affinity for painting buildings). He also states he had no negative feelings towards Jews growing up, and actually found antisemitism unsettling in his youth.

Hitler's hatred of Jews came from work that had a unio. Basically, he would argue with Marxists who tried to force everyone to join the union. He couldn't understand why what he thought were legitimate grievances (working conditions, pay, etc) were married to anti-nationalist views (hence, national socialist -- socialist economics as part of a nationalism framework). The head of the social democrats was Jewish, he found out Marx was Jewish, and then he began connecting dots from everything he saw wrong in society back to Jewish leadership in politics, publishing, art, theater, and so on. That is what developed his notorious "Jewish question" -- are Jews Germans with a different religion or are they a different people with an agenda against Germans? These arguments trying to persuade Marxist Jews to be nationalists are also where his most infamous lines in Mein Kampf came from:

At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only reinforced their determination.
The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
Gradually I began to hate them.

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

He wasn't elected because of his hatred of the Jews. 

His hatred of the Jews also wasn't a disqualifying trait.

He was elected through grievance politics. The narrative he spun was the Germany was great, that people should be proud to be German (playing on nationalist tones), and that the economic difficulties faced by Germany was because of "others" like the those who "humiliated" Germany at Versailles, Jews, or basically anyone who disagreed with his view.

Germany was a beaten down nation that had been, in living memory at the time, a confederation united under the great Bismarck that had shown great promise, snuffed out by failures in WWI. It was this sentiment - this grievance of promises lost - that Hitler tapped into.

Basically, this is correct.

59 minutes ago, TEW said:

Not really.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler explicitly states that his views towards Jews did not develop until some time after he was told to go to architecture school instead of art school (due to being better at drawing and sketching than painting and his affinity for painting buildings). He also states he had no negative feelings towards Jews growing up, and actually found antisemitism unsettling in his youth.

Hitler's hatred of Jews came from work that had a unio. Basically, he would argue with Marxists who tried to force everyone to join the union. He couldn't understand why what he thought were legitimate grievances (working conditions, pay, etc) were married to anti-nationalist views (hence, national socialist -- socialist economics as part of a nationalism framework). The head of the social democrats was Jewish, he found out Marx was Jewish, and then he began connecting dots from everything he saw wrong in society back to Jewish leadership in politics, publishing, art, theater, and so on. That is what developed his notorious "Jewish question" -- are Jews Germans with a different religion or are they a different people with an agenda against Germans? These arguments trying to persuade Marxist Jews to be nationalists are also where his most infamous lines in Mein Kampf came from:

At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only reinforced their determination.
The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
Gradually I began to hate them.

So... hitler was a narcissist.

Groundbreaking.

22 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

He wasn't elected because of his hatred of the Jews. 

Didn't say he was . . . I was merely responding to the statement by DEagle7: 

             "I'd argue that a big part of the reason that elected officials like Hitler and Putin went bad is because they became more authoritarian."

You and I are largely in agreement . . . the point of my response was that Hitler was "bad" way before he was elected. Period.

His mental stability was way off base abnormal with a sociopathic personality disorder just for starters. These things, in my non-professional opinion, were among the reasons why Hitler "went bad."    

21 hours ago, Quiet Boy said:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-parents-waiver-eavesdropping-online-lessons

As schools struggled trying to completely change everything when things went virtual, parents complained whined and ****ed the entire time. Anytime there was a online session between the students and teacher there was always one parent that was in the background either interrupting or interjecting themselves into the lesson.

There is no conspiracy except parents being aholes.

14 hours ago, pallidrone said:

As schools struggled trying to completely change everything when things went virtual, parents complained whined and ****ed the entire time. Anytime there was a online session between the students and teacher there was always one parent that was in the background either interrupting or interjecting themselves into the lesson.

There is no conspiracy except parents being aholes.

What a crock of horse ish.