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5 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

Who cares

Tbh the most Phillies thing to do would actually be comeback win the two games in LA then get it back to Philly where everybody’s is back on the bandwagon and lose.

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23 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

He agrees with you EAGLES

Because even if you fire Rob Thomson and you get any other manager, no manager is taking out luzardo at 72 pitches with how dominating he was.

I wanna say this we’ve watched a lot of Zach Wheeler and Roy halladay in the playoffs. That was right there with some of their starts. You don’t dominate a Dodgers lineup with 3 mvps, top 5 hitting catcher in mlb and teoscar Hernandez like that and get 17 guys out in a row, have one hit through six innings. By the way do it on 72 pitches after a 24 pitch 1st. That was as impressive as anything luzardo has done all year and his entire career.

That said after watching that performance, if we let him walk at the end of 2026, we are Fing stupid. Cause that kid might go to another level like wheeler did once he got here and got going. He has legit ace type stuff.

He’s doing and saying everything he can to get fired

"This is because they don't have Wheeler" they will be tripping over each other to be the first to say that

If you really wanna get more angry, the pinch runner at second for Castellanos should have been Johan Rojas. He would’ve been on this playoff roster. Except Dave Dombrowski didn’t want bring him up in September when roster expanded even though he probably should’ve to get some majors before the playoffs started. But because he didn’t do that he wound up staying in the minors and got hurt and is missing this series.

Furthermore, if the Phillies would have allowed Crawford to come up in September and play, then he could’ve been the replacement for Rojas. And he could’ve been your defensive replacement late in a game and your pinch runner for Castellanos. Which ultimately you could’ve scored that run and potentially won the game.

7 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

He’s doing and saying everything he can to get fired

He is obsessed with that crap

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Because even if you fire Rob Thomson and you get any other manager, no manager is taking out luzardo at 72 pitches with how dominating he was.

I wanna say this we’ve watched a lot of Zach Wheeler and Roy halladay in the playoffs. That was right there with some of their starts. You don’t dominate a Dodgers lineup with 3 mvps, top 5 hitting catcher in mlb and teoscar Hernandez like that and get 17 guys out in a row, have one hit through six innings. By the way do it on 72 pitches after a 24 pitch 1st. That was as impressive as anything luzardo has done all year and his entire career.

That said after watching that performance, if we let him walk at the end of 2026, we are Fing stupid. Cause that kid might go to another level like wheeler did once he got here and got going. He has legit ace type stuff.

I get what you are saying. I'm glass is half full. I looked at it and said 72, maybe he gets 10 more good, get him out before they see him another time getting weaker. Snell threw more but I didn't want that same thing. Oh well. Kerk was still the issue for me until the bunt. What a dumb f

It’s hard to be super Mad or disappointed in this series when I pretty much let all my anger out in December and January when they did nothing in the offseason to improve the team. I pretty much resigned myself to the fact that the season was already doomed from that point and never let my expectations raise. It’s the same roster, I never felt these playoffs would be any different. And of course they haven’t been.

And when Dombrowski does absolutely nothing again this upcoming offseason, that will be more infuriating than this Dodgers series. Because it’s not like the players don’t try. But the last two offseasons Dave Dombrowski hasn’t even tried to improve the team. Kepler and Romano is a totally unserious offseason. I know they traded for Luzardo later, but whatever. Treat your roster like you don’t need change and you’re going to get no change on the field of play in the playoffs.

Any change has to start in the front office. Until that changes, you’ll keep getting these same results every year.

12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I get what you are saying. I'm glass is half full. I looked at it and said 72, maybe he gets 10 more good, get him out before they see him another time getting weaker. Snell threw more but I didn't want that same thing. Oh well. Kerk was still the issue for me until the bunt. What a dumb f

The bunt was inexcusable. Just beyond stupid with such a bad bullpen. Kerkering i don’t love the decision but my belief is their bullpen sucks besides Duran. So basically anyone you use in that situation is just hoping they don’t F it up

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The bunt was inexcusable. Just beyond stupid with such a bad bullpen. Kerkering i don’t love the decision but my belief is their bullpen sucks besides Duran. So basically anyone you use in that situation is just hoping they don’t F it up

I can't remember a loss that had me this upset. Maybe the AZ game where he blew the lead. Dumb ****. That bunt was crushing. They had it.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lmao

The most 1-2-3 Cancun move ever

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I can't remember a loss that had me this upset. Maybe the AZ game where he blew the lead. Dumb ****. That bunt was crushing. They had it.

I was more mad about game 4 (was also there). To me the diamondbacks were not the better team than the Phillies. should’ve won that series. To me putting kimbrel out there is possibly toppers worst decision he’s ever made as a manager. That bunt is up there. But kimbrel decision 100% cost them a World Series berth and probably a title.

This one upsets me, but I told you guys three weeks ago. The Dodgers were the better team and using the exactly strategy i said they would to win the whole thing. In order to beat the Dodgers you have to get their starters out of the game before the 6th inning. Because they were going to have glasnow, Kershaw and Sheehan piggyback their starters for two. So the realistic was that you were only good to face the bad part of the bullpen for two innings so if you allow them to get to the 6th, that means you cut how many innings against that bad pen down to one. The Phillies just kind of ran out of time today. If they had one more inning against of facing that bad bullpen, they probably win. This is why I said weeks ago the Dodgers rotation pitching the way they are allows them to piggyback their other starters and makes a bad bullpen at least competent enough to get the outs needed.

I’d also say the Phillies biggest problem offensive in this series is Chase rate. Snell gave you four walks. He probably should’ve had closer to seven or eight walks if guys didn’t chase. He was not giving you good stuff in the strike zone to hit. to this I can tell you right now why Bryce Harper in the bottom of the 6th did what he did. Your cleanup hitter hitting behind him is Alec Bohm. I will guarantee you he does not trust Alec Bohm to come through. He can say whatever he wants to the media and to the public, but in his mind he doesn’t and his at bat shows it. So he chases trying to make sure he gets a hit because he doesn’t believe the guy behind him will. Furthermore, this goes back to what I’ve said since 2023. They’ve needed a cleanup hitter for three years now and they’ve sat around and not done it.

35 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I was more mad about game 4 (was also there). To me the diamondbacks were not the better team than the Phillies. should’ve won that series. To me putting kimbrel out there is possibly toppers worst decision he’s ever made as a manager. That bunt is up there. But kimbrel decision 100% cost them a World Series berth and probably a title.

This one upsets me, but I told you guys three weeks ago. The Dodgers were the better team and using the exactly strategy i said they would to win the whole thing. In order to beat the Dodgers you have to get their starters out of the game before the 6th inning. Because they were going to have glasnow, Kershaw and Sheehan piggyback their starters for two. So the realistic was that you were only good to face the bad part of the bullpen for two innings so if you allow them to get to the 6th, that means you cut how many innings against that bad pen down to one. The Phillies just kind of ran out of time today. If they had one more inning against of facing that bad bullpen, they probably win. This is why I said weeks ago the Dodgers rotation pitching the way they are allows them to piggyback their other starters and makes a bad bullpen at least competent enough to get the outs needed.

I’d also say the Phillies biggest problem offensive in this series is Chase rate. Snell gave you four walks. He probably should’ve had closer to seven or eight walks if guys didn’t chase. He was not giving you good stuff in the strike zone to hit. to this I can tell you right now why Bryce Harper in the bottom of the 6th did what he did. Your cleanup hitter hitting behind him is Alec Bohm. I will guarantee you he does not trust Alec Bohm to come through. He can say whatever he wants to the media and to the public, but in his mind he doesn’t and his at bat shows it. So he chases trying to make sure he gets a hit because he doesn’t believe the guy behind him will. Furthermore, this goes back to what I’ve said since 2023. They’ve needed a cleanup hitter for three years now and they’ve sat around and not done it.

That is the game I was talking about. I was driving down a canyon saying noooooooo. I remember exactly where I was.

You are right about not drawing more walks tonight and the cleanup hitter.

Harper is too focused on being the hero vs getting a single or a walk. Same with KS.

10 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

That is the game I was talking about. I was driving down a canyon saying noooooooo. I remember exactly where I was.

You are right about not drawing more walks tonight and the cleanup hitter.

Harper is too focused on being the hero vs getting a single or a walk. Same with KS.

I have less issues with Turner not hitting in this series. Cause I thought it was ridiculous that they sat him out all the way until the last game of the season. just expected him after missing 3 weeks and only playing in one live game and expected him ti hit the dodgers starters. I don’t care how good you are. Most guys playing one game in the span of a month and trying to hit Ohtani and snell are gonna look bad. To me they should’ve had him playing the last week of the season and if he couldn’t run, have him as DH and told him to just run at like 40-50%

As for Harper the issue with him to me is he’s pressing because he doesn’t trust what comes after him in that lineup to get the job done. If you had a Kyle Tucker, Cody Bellinger, or even a Pete Alonso there then I think you probably see more patience out of Harper. We can call it hero ball, that’s fine. It’s more he doesn’t trust the lineup behind him so he knows if he doesn’t do it it’s likely futile. Again goes back to Dave and the Phillies refusing to understand they need a cleanup hitter.

Ask for Schwarber he is who he is. I commend him because he’s done a pretty good job for the regular season becoming a solid hitter. Cause when he first got us, he was either home run or bust and a very low batting average with a lot of strikeouts. But since game 6 of the nlcs vs. dbacks he’s become that without the HRs. They are going to pay him because they really don’t have a choice and fans would kill them for it. tbh i think there’s better ways to spend that money like fixing the bullpen, extending luzardo and ranger and then trying to trade for a controllable big bat and signing someone like Bellinger.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I have less issues with Turner not hitting in this series. Cause I thought it was ridiculous that they sat him out all the way until the last game of the season. just expected him after missing 3 weeks and only playing in one live game and expected him ti hit the dodgers starters. I don’t care how good you are. Most guys playing one game in the span of a month and trying to hit Ohtani and snell are gonna look bad. To me they should’ve had him playing the last week of the season and if he couldn’t run, have him as DH and told him to just run at like 40-50%

As for Harper the issue with him to me is he’s pressing because he doesn’t trust what comes after him in that lineup to get the job done. If you had a Kyle Tucker, Cody Bellinger, or even a Pete Alonso there then I think you probably see more patience out of Harper. We can call it hero ball, that’s fine. It’s more he doesn’t trust the lineup behind him so he knows if he doesn’t do it it’s likely futile. Again goes back to Dave and the Phillies refusing to understand they need a cleanup hitter.

Ask for Schwarber he is who he is. I commend him because he’s done a pretty good job for the regular season becoming a solid hitter. Cause when he first got us, he was either home run or bust and a very low batting average with a lot of strikeouts. But since game 6 of the nlcs vs. dbacks he’s become that without the HRs. They are going to pay them because they really don’t have a choice and fans would kill them for it. tbh i think there’s better ways to spend that money like fixing the bullpen, extending luzardo and ranger and then trying to trade for a controllable big bat and signing someone like Bellinger.

Agree. But they will sign him.

Half the city has to still be like me saying that freaking bunt

He isn't wrong

Nsfw

20 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

He isn't wrong

Nsfw

Can't get past the obnoxious screaming lol

Two last things for the night:

  1. I do think in this series Zach Wheeler makes a difference. I still don’t think they win this series. But if you have him going and game one and you have Sanchez in game two, it allows for luzardo to be coming out of the bullpen for game 1 and still start Wednesday in LA. So if you get into a situation like game one, you can go to luzardo and do what the Dodgers are doing with glasnow and Sheehan. It bolsters a bad bullpen. That said they’re not losing this series because Zach Wheeler isn’t here. They’re losing it because the offense doesn’t consistently hit, they chase. Thomson he is making bad decisions. And the bullpen isn’t good enough.

  2. I don’t think they win on Wednesday. However, usually when I think that with baseball the baseball gods have other plans. Stupid crap like Aaron Nola who’s been bad all year somehow winds up being good and the Phillies figure a way to win a game in LA. Just to come back on Thursday when we feel good about Sanchez going and fall flat on their face. That said I still expect them to lose on Wednesday.

Jimmy should be a coach. Absolutely crushed this and explains how crap our base running is. Another thing that’s an issue with this team

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