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50 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

BS. Sorry. That's all I'm willing to expend on this argument. 

It’s usually at this point in the argument that the left turns to false but emotionally triggering images of kids in cages

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1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

It’s usually at this point in the argument that the left turns to false but emotionally triggering images of kids in cages

Says the guy who's pointing to outlier cases to make an argument FOR separating children from their families. 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Says the guy who's pointing to outlier cases to make an argument FOR separating children from their families. 

JEN PSAKI: "Well, let me give a broader description of what's happening here. We have a number of unaccompanied minors, children who are coming into the country without their families.

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1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Says the guy who's pointing to outlier cases to make an argument FOR separating children from their families. 

I think that Texas snowstorm was an outlier

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17 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I think that Texas snowstorm was an outlier

Not all outliers are the same.

The Texas outlier (which happened three times in 40 years btw) caused the deaths of 100s (among other impacts that still longer) and is preventable using well known and readily available winterization techniques. The cost of not accounting for this outlier is incredibly high.

The odd minor who accompanies an adult across the border for some nefarious reason is something that can be accounted for during interviews, but doesn't represent the tremendous cost if we miss one or two.

It's an asinine comparison.

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Not all outliers are the same.

The Texas outlier (which happened three times in 40 years btw) caused the deaths of 100s (among other impacts that still longer) and is preventable using well known and readily available winterization techniques. The cost of not accounting for this outlier is incredibly high.

The odd minor who accompanies an adult across the border for some nefarious reason is something that can be accounted for during interviews, but doesn't represent the tremendous cost if we miss one or two.

It's an asinine comparison.

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Last I heard the death count was 80 from the Texas Storm, but say it’s 100

100 3 times in 40 years.  All people who could have prepared themselves better for something like this

Meanwhile, just in the last 10 years how many sex trafficking victims or murderers do you suppose have crossed that border?

There were 86 in the Austin area alone that froze to death, as of two days ago anyway.

And I'm not advocating for open borders, nor am I saying we should not separately interview minors and those who claim to be their families at the border. 

So I'm not sure what I'm not addressing here. The entire point I made is that the critical difference between what Biden is doing and what Trump did is the forceful and permanent separation of children from their families among those who crossed the border purely to fulfill some sick fantasy that if we're brutal enough people will stop coming. It's the same "tough on crime" arguments we heard a generation ago that have failed; tough on crime didn't stop crime, it just made more people criminals. 

Just stop. 

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52 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

There were 86 in the Austin area alone that froze to death, as of two days ago anyway.

And I'm not advocating for open borders, nor am I saying we should not separately interview minors and those who claim to be their families at the border. 

So I'm not sure what I'm not addressing here. The entire point I made is that the critical difference between what Biden is doing and what Trump did is the forceful and permanent separation of children from their families among those who crossed the border purely to fulfill some sick fantasy that if we're brutal enough people will stop coming. It's the same "tough on crime" arguments we heard a generation ago that have failed; tough on crime didn't stop crime, it just made more people criminals. 

Just stop. 

And I addressed that point already.  There may be a view that if you prevent people from coming then you endanger fewer people.

Its your TDS that caused you to assume it’s all just part of some "sick fantasy”

 

7 hours ago, NVeagle said:

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Wait.  What happened to paw patrol?

 

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