"very few"   

At least 828 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all.

 

https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/most-of-the-arrests-from-the-capitol-riots-have-been-misdemeanor-curfew-violations-this-searchable-table-shows-everyone-charged-so-far-/articleshow/80193894.cms

10 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

alwasy love the whataboutisms. Curious tactic.  Ok I'll bite, Not that I have any love for the few idiots that were bad actors on Jan 6th,  but other than those few idiots on Jan 6th, what other Right winged uprising of rioting have we seen played out during the past 5- 7  years?

VS. the too numerous BLM riots, Antifa riots etc...   I am sure I must be missing a few right winged riots where businesses were destroyed, government buildings attacked, and innocent lives were lost.  Maybe you can list them all to jog my memory?

 

The right wing in this country has a serious problem that it refuses to acknowledge. Republicans are not the party of Reagan, Buckley, or HW Bush. They're the party nurtured by Gingrich's lack of ethics long enough to embrace an authoritarian streak that balms their seething grievances over a social order that has rejected their nostalgia for an era that never was.

The unfortunate thing for America with its political duopoly is that the only other choice is the Democrats. So when faced with a choice between being governed by the slightly to occasionally overtly racist trust fund neighbor who like to talk up bootstrap lifting while driving a leased Benz they can't afford, and the disorganized mess of a failed artist who thinks we can still just all get along if we'd just tax the rich more and trade in guns for sunflowers, we're forced to go with the latter because at least one has some semblance of a moral compass and didn't actively attempt to overthrow an election.

Antifa hates Dems as much as Republicans but you assign them to the left because that's where your biases lie. And there are plenty of armed and better organized militias one could associate with the right who have committed violence for political reasons.

But I'm not going to go down the path of relitigating 2020 because when it comes down to it, only supporters of one particular party actually attempted to overturn the results of a presidential election using what can only be described as terroristic methods, egged on by a man who is still to this day the most powerful man in the Republican party.

And that is less about Trump than it is about the base. The base WANTED to violently overthrow the results of 2020. And that scares me more than anything else.

And anyone who actively supports that - or even downplays that as you routinely do - needs to more closely examine what happened on Jan 6 with sober eyes. The evidence is not challenging to logic, it only challenges biases.

2 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

Our criminal justice system after being reformed.

 

 

typical

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Definition of few

 (Entry 1 of 3)

: not many persons or thingsfew were presentfew of his stories are true

few

 adjective

Definition of few (Entry 2 of 3)

1: consisting of or amounting to only a small number one of our few pleasures

2: at least some but indeterminately small in number —used with a caught a few fish

few and far between

: few in number and infrequently met : RARE

few

 noun, plural in construction

Definition of few (Entry 3 of 3)

1: a small number of units or individuals a few of them

 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

"very few"   

At least 828 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all.

 

https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/most-of-the-arrests-from-the-capitol-riots-have-been-misdemeanor-curfew-violations-this-searchable-table-shows-everyone-charged-so-far-/articleshow/80193894.cms

 

58 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

The right wing in this country has a serious problem that it refuses to acknowledge. Republicans are not the party of Reagan, Buckley, or HW Bush. They're the party nurtured by Gingrich's lack of ethics long enough to embrace an authoritarian streak that balms their seething grievances over a social order that has rejected their nostalgia for an era that never was.

The unfortunate thing for America with its political duopoly is that the only other choice is the Democrats. So when faced with a choice between being governed by the slightly to occasionally overtly racist trust fund neighbor who like to talk up bootstrap lifting while driving a leased Benz they can't afford, and the disorganized mess of a failed artist who thinks we can still just all get along if we'd just tax the rich more and trade in guns for sunflowers, we're forced to go with the latter because at least one has some semblance of a moral compass and didn't actively attempt to overthrow an election.

Antifa hates Dems as much as Republicans but you assign them to the left because that's where your biases lie. And there are plenty of armed and better organized militias one could associate with the right who have committed violence for political reasons.

But I'm not going to go down the path of relitigating 2020 because when it comes down to it, only supporters of one particular party actually attempted to overturn the results of a presidential election using what can only be described as terroristic methods, egged on by a man who is still to this day the most powerful man in the Republican party.

And that is less about Trump than it is about the base. The base WANTED to violently overthrow the results of 2020. And that scares me more than anything else.

And anyone who actively supports that - or even downplays that as you routinely do - needs to more closely examine what happened on Jan 6 with sober eyes. The evidence is not challenging to logic, it only challenges biases.

 

Spoiler

 

Dems doing what they do best since 2015 - 

 

So much for being politically neutral

3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

The right wing in this country has a serious problem that it refuses to acknowledge. Republicans are not the party of Reagan, Buckley, or HW Bush. They're the party nurtured by Gingrich's lack of ethics long enough to embrace an authoritarian streak that balms their seething grievances over a social order that has rejected their nostalgia for an era that never was.

The unfortunate thing for America with its political duopoly is that the only other choice is the Democrats. So when faced with a choice between being governed by the slightly to occasionally overtly racist trust fund neighbor who like to talk up bootstrap lifting while driving a leased Benz they can't afford, and the disorganized mess of a failed artist who thinks we can still just all get along if we'd just tax the rich more and trade in guns for sunflowers, we're forced to go with the latter because at least one has some semblance of a moral compass and didn't actively attempt to overthrow an election.

Antifa hates Dems as much as Republicans but you assign them to the left because that's where your biases lie. And there are plenty of armed and better organized militias one could associate with the right who have committed violence for political reasons.

But I'm not going to go down the path of relitigating 2020 because when it comes down to it, only supporters of one particular party actually attempted to overturn the results of a presidential election using what can only be described as terroristic methods, egged on by a man who is still to this day the most powerful man in the Republican party.

And that is less about Trump than it is about the base. The base WANTED to violently overthrow the results of 2020. And that scares me more than anything else.

And anyone who actively supports that - or even downplays that as you routinely do - needs to more closely examine what happened on Jan 6 with sober eyes. The evidence is not challenging to logic, it only challenges biases.

Cant deny right wing extremists have been the perps of some of the worst mass killings. Agree. And when you cherry pick the data (as stated in the tweet "of these") to remove POC on POC mass murders of more than 4 or more, then yeah Right wing extremist look even worse. I abhor the right wing extremists, and anyone who is willing to kill innocent people. (Example the Waukesha incident was not considered a mass murder event- cherry picking)

 I specifically stated riots. That was the original post.

The reason we align ANTIFA with liberals is because the liberals stuck up for, looked the other way, and pandered ANTIFA. That makes the libs complicit. See thats the difference. I dont pander and stick up for the right wing extremists, I denounce them, will help you lock them up. So would most republican politicians. But Dems need Antifa and their supporters votes. So they pander to them. To deny that fact would be denying history of all the riots, and lawlessness in Liberal run cities such as Portland and Seattle etc.... You will note, Antifa does not do that in Repub run places, because the repubs dont put up with that as a rule. 

The base didn't want to violently overthrow the 2020 election, (a small percentage did) what they wanted was transparency of a free and fair election and they did not get that. Instead they got polling places in liberal cities start recounting votes late at night, after they told everyone they were done, and sent them home. ETC...  And as we know a few agitators and a few police and security staff in the capital opened doors and  some 50-300 idiots roamed the Capital. Not really a threat to overthrow the Government.  But thats history. 

Now back to the riots, what my post was specifically about before you guys tried to drag me down a rabbit hole of hyperbole and misdirection.

Why is it, the left seems to be the perps of most riots in the US?   The tweet says we are now normally expecting Riots to happen whenever the left doesn't get their way.  Care to elaborate on the why that is? Is it just because of Trump and his base? Hard to believe since their rioting preceeds Trump. 

 

or no?

 

 

18 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

So much for being politically neutral

The Dems have been red pilling classic liberals since 2015. It's easy to blame those who abandon your party instead of those who caused that to happen.  Oh I forgot youare a libertarian I believe?  SO not YOUR party

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

I dont pander and stick up for the right wing extremists, I denounce them, will help you lock them up. So would most republican politicians. 

I'm sorry. But do you actually tell yourself this?

Just now, Ipiggles said:

The Dems have been red pilling classic liberals since 2015. It's easy to blame those who abandon your party instead of those who caused that to happen.

I'm not blaming him for voting republican, I'm blaming him for claiming twitter should remain politically neutral, only to now take political stances on the daily.

7 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

The base didn't want to violently overthrow the 2020 election, (a small percentage did) what they wanted was transparency of a free and fair election and they did not get that.

Only because they're by far the dumbest political faction in the history of mankind. Only a mentally handicapped, mouth-breathing, knuckle dragging moron would still believe the election wasn't free and fair after every single investigation and court case has repeatedly failed for Trump. You guys got your ish pushed in by Joe F'ing Biden (lol) and instead of being like "damn, we need to get it together and nominate someone better next time" you rubes instead double down on the lies from a reality game show host.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm not blaming him for voting republican, I'm blaming him for claiming twitter should remain politically neutral, only to now take political stances on the daily.

A fair point, do you think if he becomes CEO he will run Twitter in a politically neutral fashion, or will he be just as guilty in censoring for political biases as the current leaders of Twitter? 

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Only because they're by far the dumbest political faction in the history of mankind. Only a mentally handicapped, mouth-breathing, knuckle dragging moron would still believe the election wasn't free and fair after every single investigation and court case has repeatedly failed for Trump. You guys got your ish pushed in by Joe F'ing Biden (lol) and instead of being like "damn, we need to get it together and nominate someone better next time" you rubes instead double down on the lies from a reality game show host.

I'll say this, to what you just said.   If COVID had not hit and the media and politicians not used it as a fear mongering tool, or if Hunters Laptop wasn't surpressed as Russian Disinfo, Trump is likely the President. Biden didn't beat Trump the Dems/Leftist media did that.

Something a lot of people who Voted for Biden now see through, and have learned not to trust the Dems and the media.  The pendulum is about to swing hard the other way, as it often does. 

The question is was it worth it? You may believe yes it was, but to most Americans, it wasn't.  

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

I'll say this, to what you just said.   If COVID had not hit and the media and politicians not used it as a fear mongering tool, or if Hunters Laptop wasn't surpressed as Russian Disinfo, Trump is likely the President. Biden didn't beat Trump the Dems/Leftist media did that.

Something a lot of people who Voted for Biden now see through, and have learned not to trust the Dems and the media.  The pendulum is about to swing hard the other way, as it often does. 

The question is was it worth it? You may believe yes it was, but to most Americans, it wasn't.  

Cool story and all, but it has literally nothing to do with gop voters having the collective IQ of a house plant for still believing Biden stole the election. I'm embarrassed for you.

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

A fair point, do you think if he becomes CEO he will run Twitter in a politically neutral fashion, or will he be just as guilty in censoring for political biases as the current leaders of Twitter? 

Don't know, don't care, it's his company, he can do as he pleases (just keep that share price up, dick head!) He just sounds really dumb when he speaks out of both sides of his mouth like that.

19 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm not blaming him for voting republican, I'm blaming him for claiming twitter should remain politically neutral, only to now take political stances on the daily.

I’d have to reread Musk’s comments on Twitter remaining political neutral but I thought he meant not silencing one side over the other. 

2 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

I’d have to reread Musk’s comments on Twitter remaining political neutral but I thought he meant not silencing one side over the other. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Ok so he can have his own opinion and still think a message board should allow both sides, both sides, to speak freely or be equally suppressed. Sounds reasonable to me. 

4 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Ok so he can have his own opinion and still think a message board should allow both sides, both sides, to speak freely or be equally suppressed. Sounds reasonable to me. 

Sure but you can't say your company will remain politically neutral while you, as the owner, are making political rants multiple times per day. Well I mean, you can, but you won't be taken seriously.

38 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Sure but you can't say your company will remain politically neutral while you, as the owner, are making political rants multiple times per day. Well I mean, you can, but you won't be taken seriously.

Sure you can. The company and him are two separate entities. I know separating the two are hard for some people. 

44 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Sure you can. The company and him are two separate entities. I know separating the two are hard for some people. 

Pretty naive to think the strong personal beliefs of a micromanager like Musk won't bleed into the way in which the company he owns is run. No different than people criticizing Zuckerberg for ardently keeping his personal life private and being irritable with journalists while running a company that exhaustively mines the personal data of all its users.

54 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Pretty naive to think the strong personal beliefs of a micromanager like Musk won't bleed into the way in which the company he owns is run. No different than people criticizing Zuckerberg for ardently keeping his personal life private and being irritable with journalists while running a company that exhaustively mines the personal data of all its users.

It’s a stretch that a guy wanting free speech on social media is going to silence just one side. Good try though. 

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