10 minutes ago, Procus said:

What "worshippers" carry fireworks and stones into church and prevent other worshippers from leaving by barricading themselves in there and then start violently attacking the police?

That certainly is one way to avoid answering the question.

1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

That certainly is one way to avoid answering the question.

What question?  I only read a moronic, clueless remark from you.

On 3/30/2023 at 9:51 AM, VanHammersly said:

I mean, it's such a hollow talking point that it's almost not worth entertaining.  The right lives in a pretend world where we're constantly going bankrupt but only when there's a Democratic President but magically not when a Republican President is increasing the debt by $8T and personally signing direct payments to every American.  The only reason they even bring up the whole "we can't afford to bankroll Ukraine" argument is because they're too chicken sheet to outright say they're hoping Russia rolls through Ukraine.  Abra's a **** but at least he's not afraid to say what Kz, Zucker, Procus, etc. are actually thinking.

The public at large has  been played for the fool in this conflict in large part. 

At the end of the day, in our neck of the woods, these wars are fueled by $$$, and lots of it.  Reports are that a lot of the weaponry for which funds were earmarked were transferred to Baltic state NATO members, who in turn transferred their old, crappy weapons to Ukraine.

Don't think for a second that financial interests in the military-industrial complex aren't behind the big push to spend money on the Ukrainian conflict.  These interests are making a bundle and have considerable influence over decision makers in Washington.  They couldn't care less about Ukrainians or Russians.  They do, however, care a lot about money.

And yet the title of this thread is Israel and authoritarianism.  Wonder how many people in this thread would tolerate rocket fire from hostile forces being aimed at them.

 

32 minutes ago, Procus said:

and yet the title of this thread is Israel and authoritarianism. 

This thread is about the attempts of the current govt to change the Israeli governmental power structures and to remove any form of checks and balances of power in the country and to do that without a proper level of debate, discussion, etc.  It isn't about how Israel is dealing with attacks from groups in Gaza or Lebanon.

14 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

This thread is about the attempts of the current govt to change the Israeli governmental power structures and to remove any form of checks and balances of power in the country and to do that without a proper level of debate, discussion, etc.  It isn't about how Israel is dealing with attacks from groups in Gaza or Lebanon.

classic procus 

 

On 4/5/2023 at 2:42 PM, Toastrel said:

Israel storms mosque, detaining hundreds and prompting clashes amid religious holiday

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-storms-mosque-detaining-hundreds-and-prompting-clashes-amid-religious-holiday/ar-AA19uEvc

On 4/6/2023 at 3:47 PM, DrPhilly said:

This thread is about the attempts of the current govt to change the Israeli governmental power structures and to remove any form of checks and balances of power in the country and to do that without a proper level of debate, discussion, etc.  It isn't about how Israel is dealing with attacks from groups in Gaza or Lebanon.

What's your point?

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

What's your point?

He doesn't want to talk about that in here. He is, but clearly, it is against his will.

 

Personally, I though attacking mosques with SWAT teams during holy days are pretty authoritarian, but clearly, not everyone shares that view.