January 18, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Mat said: The Hornets are an awful and rebuilding team. They probably want young players and picks in return. It probably depends on matching the salary, but he isn't an expiring contract. Looking at the 76'ers they would probably want someone like Reed or maybe Springer and picks. I don't think Rozier would fetch a first but the market is what teams are willing to pay. They way he is playing and the way the market is right now, he would fetch a 1st I would imagine.
January 18, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: I dont think we want a guy like him being the reason we dont have a boat load of cap space this summer. I hear you. I was just saying to go for it all this year, he would be the missing piece. We need more offense off the bench and a ball handler. He isn’t scared to take a shot at the end of game. Not that he should be option 1 or 2, but he can be clutch at times.
January 18, 20241 yr The guy that probably makes the most sense is Caruso and he is apparently untouchable.
January 18, 20241 yr Just now, Khani1 said: I hear you. I was just saying to go for it all this year, he would be the missing piece. We need more offense off the bench and a ball handler. I think Id rather them go for Tyus Jones. Rozier has always been streaky. Hes tiny. Is he still playing good defense though?
January 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said: I think Id rather them go for Tyus Jones. Rozier has always been streaky. Hes tiny. Is he still playing good defense though? Haven’t been watching Char games but I would assume he is still bad on defense.
January 18, 20241 yr Just now, Mat said: The guy that probably makes the most sense is Caruso and he is apparently untouchable. Im not sure a PG is our biggest need or "missing piece" but Im not against help at any position. Tyus Jones has been mentioned a lot and is a good player on an expiring contract. Thats ideal for cap purposes. Klay Thompson is in the last year of his deal making a big salary. Someone you would have to trade Tobi for.
January 18, 20241 yr Just now, Khani1 said: Haven’t been watching Char games but I would assume he is still bad on defense. I dont really have any interest in decreasing our defensive potential. We already dont play good defense, mostly.
January 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: I dont really have any interest in decreasing our defensive potential. We already dont play good defense, mostly. In the playoffs these days, it’s really more about out scoring your opponent.
January 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said: Im not sure a PG is our biggest need or "missing piece" but Im not against help at any position. Tyus Jones has been mentioned a lot and is a good player on an expiring contract. Thats ideal for cap purposes. Klay Thompson is in the last year of his deal making a big salary. Someone you would have to trade Tobi for. He can play D and has shot 41.5% from 3 this season. It again depends on what position they target. Are they happy with Melton at SG and Pat Bev as the lead guard when Maxey rests? Caruso could replace Melton in the starting lineup and you have Pat Bev, Melton and Oubre play the 1-3 with the second unit.
January 18, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, Khani1 said: What would it cost to acquire Scary Terry? He is making 23 mil this year and 25 mil next year as his final contract year. He would be an amazing 6th man. 3 level scorer who is shooting 38% in 8 attempts from 3. He can handle the ball and averages 6.7 apg. He has been playing out of his mind this year and him/Oubre would be a amazing 2nd unit. Not sure what happens to Pat Bev and his minutes at that point but oh well. He is owed like 24 and 24 next two years so have to commit to him long term and doesn't seem like team wants that. I keep hearing about assets and cap space for this summer but who is available? Siakam will sign with Pacers, OG off the market, Kawhi has extended, PG looking like he will extend, LaVine does not fit this team and think Mitchell as well. Are you hoping Heat make a run at Donovan Mitchell and you get Jimmy Butler for a two year run in a 3 way trade? I don't see who is left and an actual FA and can rule out Jrue who is slowing down, 35 year old DeRozen pass, LeBron is a pipe dream. Tobias is the best guy left and no one wants to give him 3/100 or something in that range. Banking on Embiid to continue to stay healthy and being content this year makes no sense to me. Morris and Covington can get you 28 million a year, go get the guy and try to win a title this year and not mess up the mojo either.
January 18, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: Im not sure a PG is our biggest need or "missing piece" but Im not against help at any position. Tyus Jones has been mentioned a lot and is a good player on an expiring contract. Thats ideal for cap purposes. Klay Thompson is in the last year of his deal making a big salary. Someone you would have to trade Tobi for. Tobias is a better player than Klay at this point in their careers and not close really. All those leg injuries have caught up to him. Klay is a once a week type player at this point
January 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Khani1 said: In the playoffs these days, it’s really more about out scoring your opponent. You may be right. Not my preference but Im unlikely to complain about any player they bring in. Im always happy for change, getting to watch someone new, and to see how it works out. My criticism is usually about value and Morey being an idiot. If Rozier is the move, I wont be thrilled to have his salary on the books this summer. I think there are other win now moves on expiring contracts, or on contracts that you wont mind having like if they could land Mikal Bridges.
January 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: He has been playing out of his mind this year and him/Oubre would be a amazing 2nd unit. Not sure what happens to Pat Bev and his minutes at that point but oh well. He is owed like 24 and 24 next two years so have to commit to him long term and doesn't seem like team wants that. I keep hearing about assets and cap space for this summer but who is available? Siakam will sign with Pacers, OG off the market, Kawhi has extended, PG looking like he will extend, LaVine does not fit this team and think Mitchell as well. Are you hoping Heat make a run at Donovan Mitchell and you get Jimmy Butler for a two year run in a 3 way trade? I don't see who is left and an actual FA and can rule out Jrue who is slowing down, 35 year old DeRozen pass, LeBron is a pipe dream. Tobias is the best guy left and no one wants to give him 3/100 or something in that range. Banking on Embiid to continue to stay healthy and being content this year makes no sense to me. Morris and Covington can get you 28 million a year, go get the guy and try to win a title this year and not mess up the mojo either. With the cap space you can turn the old guys like Morris and Covington in to even better role players. Guys like Jrue Holiday, Klay Thompson.... there are others...not your prime super stars but you can take this incredible depth we already have this year and put it on steroids.
January 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said: You may be right. Not my preference but Im unlikely to complain about any player they bring in. Im always happy for change, getting to watch someone new, and to see how it works out. My criticism is usually about value and Morey being an idiot. If Rozier is the move, I wont be thrilled to have his salary on the books this summer. I think there are other win now moves on expiring contracts, or on contracts that you wont mind having like if they could land Mikal Bridges. Hey don't criticize Morey, he turned Simmons and Harden into Morris, Covington, and 2 1sts! That is some great value lol
January 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said: You may be right. Not my preference but Im unlikely to complain about any player they bring in. Im always happy for change, getting to watch someone new, and to see how it works out. My criticism is usually about value and Morey being an idiot. If Rozier is the move, I wont be thrilled to have his salary on the books this summer. I think there are other win now moves on expiring contracts, or on contracts that you wont mind having like if they could land Mikal Bridges. Rozier probably isnt the move but we can agree that we definitely only need a couple role players now, no longer is a 3rd option needed thanks to Batum and Oubre.
January 18, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: He has been playing out of his mind this year and him/Oubre would be a amazing 2nd unit. Not sure what happens to Pat Bev and his minutes at that point but oh well. He is owed like 24 and 24 next two years so have to commit to him long term and doesn't seem like team wants that. I keep hearing about assets and cap space for this summer but who is available? Siakam will sign with Pacers, OG off the market, Kawhi has extended, PG looking like he will extend, LaVine does not fit this team and think Mitchell as well. Are you hoping Heat make a run at Donovan Mitchell and you get Jimmy Butler for a two year run in a 3 way trade? I don't see who is left and an actual FA and can rule out Jrue who is slowing down, 35 year old DeRozen pass, LeBron is a pipe dream. Tobias is the best guy left and no one wants to give him 3/100 or something in that range. Banking on Embiid to continue to stay healthy and being content this year makes no sense to me. Morris and Covington can get you 28 million a year, go get the guy and try to win a title this year and not mess up the mojo either. We are on the same page.
January 18, 20241 yr Just now, HazletonEagle said: With the cap space you can turn the old guys like Morris and Covington in to even better role players. Guys like Jrue Holiday, Klay Thompson.... there are others...not your prime super stars but you can take this incredible depth we already have this year and put it on steroids. But they are both FA and going to want to get paid. Klay is not worth 20 a year at this point, he doesn't move the needle for me at all. He is pretty much cooked at this point. Jrue will be 34 and a lot of miles on him with the playoffs as well. Nice story but 25 to 30 a year is a lot Both guys sound sexy with their names but rather risk it with Fultz and his bum knee to be honest.
January 18, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: He has been playing out of his mind this year and him/Oubre would be a amazing 2nd unit. Not sure what happens to Pat Bev and his minutes at that point but oh well. He is owed like 24 and 24 next two years so have to commit to him long term and doesn't seem like team wants that. I keep hearing about assets and cap space for this summer but who is available? Siakam will sign with Pacers, OG off the market, Kawhi has extended, PG looking like he will extend, LaVine does not fit this team and think Mitchell as well. Are you hoping Heat make a run at Donovan Mitchell and you get Jimmy Butler for a two year run in a 3 way trade? I don't see who is left and an actual FA and can rule out Jrue who is slowing down, 35 year old DeRozen pass, LeBron is a pipe dream. Tobias is the best guy left and no one wants to give him 3/100 or something in that range. Banking on Embiid to continue to stay healthy and being content this year makes no sense to me. Morris and Covington can get you 28 million a year, go get the guy and try to win a title this year and not mess up the mojo either. It doesn't look great. PG and Jrue have player options, I think OG does as well. Otherwise most of the upcoming FA's are guys that are about ready to fall off a cliff if they haven't already (Lowry and DeRozan) or the best available option is actually Harris.
January 18, 20241 yr Only dudes under contract next year are Embiid, Springer, and Reeds non guaranteed which they will pick up. They will extend Maxey with a max but still have to fill out 11 spots left. That is a hellva lot of turnover with basically one young guy for the future you trust in Maxey.
January 18, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: Klay Thompson is in the last year of his deal making a big salary. Someone you would have to trade Tobi for. Also what @DaEagles4Life said about Klay, he is done. I think he might even retire at the end of the year. I remember seeing this a couple weeks back. Kerr had to pull him aside and he talks about just enjoying his last chapter.
January 18, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Mat said: Also what @DaEagles4Life said about Klay, he is done. I think he might even retire at the end of the year. I remember seeing this a couple weeks back. Kerr had to pull him aside and he talks about just enjoying his last chapter. Damn that is a humbling interview, always liked him as a player but those injuries, ACL and then Achilles. If want to pick around the edges look at DFS or Royce O'Neal from the Nets. Both wings that are versatile and cost controlled. I wouldn't trust Covington at this point with his knee.
January 18, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Hey don't criticize Morey, he turned Simmons and Harden into Morris, Covington, and 2 1sts! That is some great value lol I credit the NBA for stepping in and making the teams resolve the Harden situation. Otherwise who knows how that would have ended. Or when. He would probably still be here making a sideshow.
January 18, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Mat said: It doesn't look great. PG and Jrue have player options, I think OG does as well. Otherwise most of the upcoming FA's are guys that are about ready to fall off a cliff if they haven't already (Lowry and DeRozan) or the best available option is actually Harris. Still goes back to Grant and Brogdon. Fit. And as good as anyone you can sign in the summer. Perfect trade.
January 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Damn that is a humbling interview, always liked him as a player but those injuries, ACL and then Achilles. If want to pick around the edges look at DFS or Royce O'Neal from the Nets. Both wings that are versatile and cost controlled. I wouldn't trust Covington at this point with his knee. My issue with Covington is his shot is and always has been to streaky. Sometimes he just doesn't have it, for multiple games in a row. I like him but that's the spot I'm looking to upgrade.
January 18, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Damn that is a humbling interview, always liked him as a player but those injuries, ACL and then Achilles. If want to pick around the edges look at DFS or Royce O'Neal from the Nets. Both wings that are versatile and cost controlled. I wouldn't trust Covington at this point with his knee. I was thinking about O'Neal the other night. I don't know if the Nets are at the point of selling off pieces yet. Kuzma was another but I don't like him. Not worth the potential headache 5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: Still goes back to Grant and Brogdon. Fit. And as good as anyone you can sign in the summer. Perfect trade. Aren't they both on about 20 mill each?
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