Cam Johnson and DFS should be available now. 

If OG signs with the Knicks, he will be the highest paid player but the 3rd or 4th option depending on if they keep Randle. 

Couple things Knicks and Sixers:

I kind of think the Knicks are going to re-sign OG but at a max contract. I do think they’ll be a team who offers that and forces the Knicks hand to match or let him walk. They’ll trade Randle but get pennies on the dollar as teams knowing that the Knicks need to move off him or they are going to be paying taxes and into the second apron which really makes it much harder to maneuver so your roster better be good enough. at some point you can’t pay everyone and gonna lose some depth and you just traded the draft capital to replenish that depth and 2nd apron is much more restrictive.

granted over the next couple years, the cap is going to go up but then you also have to assume that Brunson is going to make more because the cap is going up and Bridges is going to make more because the caps going up. They’ll be taking up more. This is an all in type move because if it doesn’t work, you’re gonna be in trouble. Which leads me to my next point.

That said I think the Knicks window is the next 3 years. Because Thibodaux is going to run those guys into the ground. Been in his past and even saw some of that this year. So by the time you get to year three of this core if he is still the coach, there’s a chance that that team as talented as they are is beginning to break down (OG already has problems staying healthy). To me i still don’t see them better than the Celtics. The difference to me is brown and Tatum are superior to OG and Bridges. And jrue is the perfect defender to face Brunson. Brunson will get his but he’s going to work much harder for it. Then they still have white and porzingis (assuming he stays healthy and who knows with him). I think that’s better than hart, DeVincenzo and hartenstein/mitchell. Also Boston still has assets to maneuver around make improvements.

sixers:

I said last off-season the best plan for the Sixers was doing what they did to position themselves with a bunch of cap (draft assets) to build the team the way they want too. However, you have to be really good and really smart to hit a home run even with that going on for you. this option was still a better option than anything else they had at their disposal (they didn’t have the assets to pull a siakam or anunoby at the deadline).

But I would bet you by the time we get to middle of July we’re gonna be looking at the Sixers as the third but probably the fourth best team in the east because they’re not gonna be able to get the star player they want. They’re gonna have to build with a bunch of role players around Maxey and Embiid. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but I don’t think you’re gonna get the quality of talent to maneuver yourself into the top two or three in the conference with who is available. Now maybe you sign some of these guys and a star becomes available during the season or next off-season so you have the salary and you have the draft picks to make that move. But I think the 76ers are gonna on the outside looking in and a plan is only as good as if you can invoke it to what your vision is/was

brings me to this point, I am betting Joel Embiid signs an extension because for him you don’t want to risk it with his injury past and what’s happened with him in the past. If he stayed healthier i think he might take that risk to reach FA. imo Embiid extending doesn’t hurt his value cause if you get mvp type play for 2-3 it’s worth trading the capital for him. IfBridges is getting that and Joel Embiid comes to the market as an MVP type player teams will give up more than what they did for bridges. So the time when they go to trade him (which may be coming faster than we think if they screw up this free agency) they might get a boatload back if he’s still at his mvp level the next 2 years (when i think it goes down). How great those picks are in the future who knows but it likely gives you plenty of capital t try to see if you could bring another star to play with Maxey over the next couple years. 

Props to the Knicks for going for. They have a multi year window where they are title contenders. 

 

59 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Props to the Knicks for going for. They have a multi year window where they are title contenders. 

 

It was a massive overpay for an elite roll player. This still doesn’t put them over the Celtics. Also, their front court is trash if they lose Hartenstein. Embiid will eat them alive. 

We are going to end up with Maxey, Embid and....

i wonder if they could get cam johnson on the cheap?    

Draft today

The Sixers only hope, draft Bronny and sign Daddy.....

3 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

The Sixers only hope, draft Bronny and sign Daddy.....

probably is the only move to truly be a sure championship contender. 

Seems at this point Ingram is our most possible move. 

Ingram and DFS would be a solid, realistic offseason. Probably not good enough but...

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

probably is the only move to truly be a sure championship contender. 

Seems at this point Ingram is our most possible move. 

Ingram and DFS would be a solid, realistic offseason. Probably not good enough but...

Why not Cam Johnson? He should be available too. 

3 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Why not Cam Johnson? He should be available too. 

could be. Thats a name people have wanted, whereas DFS is a name thats actually been in the rumor mill as a possible trade block guy. If Johnson is, then great.

Dejounte Murray is apparently on the trade block. They are gonna trade one of he or Young. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

could be. Thats a name people have wanted, whereas DFS is a name thats actually been in the rumor mill as a possible trade block guy. If Johnson is, then great.

He’s 28 so he doesn’t really fit their rebuild core timeline. 

Our only chance with OG is if Knicks retain Hartenstein instead. Robinson is always hurt and OG is redundant with Bridges. While they have 57 wings, they don’t really have a big man. 

7 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

He’s 28 so he doesn’t really fit their rebuild core timeline. 

Its true. His contract is affordable but that can go either way incentivizing them to keep them for now, or knowing that it helps his value to other teams. 

He is signed for the next 3 years and then he is only 30. They can extend him still in his prime 3 years from now. They may be a better team by then and like to have him around.

Dont know. 

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its true. His contract is affordable but that can go either way incentivizing them to keep them for now, or knowing that it helps his value to other teams. 

He is signed for the next 3 years and then he is only 30. They can extend him still in his prime 3 years from now. They may be a better team by then and like to have him around.

Dont know. 

We know now. Nets announced a fire sale. He is available. 

4 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

We know now. Nets announced a fire sale. He is available. 

well theres another great target for Morey to fail to get then. 

4 hours ago, Blazehound said:

It was a massive overpay for an elite roll player. This still doesn’t put them over the Celtics. Also, their front court is trash if they lose Hartenstein. Embiid will eat them alive. 

It's what you have to do to compete for titles. You may not think that but it gives them a legit shot and all you can ask for. You can't predict injuries with Porziņgis and Horford now 38 who was getting eaten alive by guys like Nembhard. 

 

Let's chill on Embiid, he is now 30 and how about Embiid win a meaningful playoff series before talking about him in serious sense. 

 

How many firsts would it cost to acquire BI and Can Johnson, 4? 

I’m gonna keep throwing crap at the wall. 
If Durant is available, why not go for him? 

8 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

It's what you have to do to compete for titles. You may not think that but it gives them a legit shot and all you can ask for. You can't predict injuries with Porziņgis and Horford now 38 who was getting eaten alive by guys like Nembhard. 

 

Let's chill on Embiid, he is now 30 and how about Embiid win a meaningful playoff series before talking about him in serious sense. 

I get why the Knicks did it. I give them credit for taking a risk and seeing where the chips land. However, if we’re gonna say we don’t know about injuries you say the same thing with the Knicks. First off if they re-sign OG and have Mitchell starting, both of those guys aren’t the epitome of health. So you can have the same thing we’re discussing with Porzingis and Horford with the Knicks. If I’m building my roster, I don’t wanna have to hope an injury happens in order for me to win a title. I want my team good enough to beat that team if we’re full strength. And if injuries happen then that just benefits my ability to get there. 

also the Knicks have a chance in thibs who’s notoriously known for running guys into the ground during his tenure. I think Knicks need to have him utilize their depth to avoid that from happening to them.

I said this in another post, the Knicks are trying to emulate the Boston Celtics. The only guy in their starting lineup that I can see definitively say is better than Boston is Jalen Bronson. And really Jalen Brunson is going up against Jrue and as long as jrue is still at this level, he is a pain in the Fing ass to play against. Brunson will get his but i don’t think it’ll be efficient throughout a series which is tough. Plus, you still have Brad Stevens there making decisions and he still has ammunition in that holster. Knicks once Brunson gets his max extension (frankly i think he waits to get more money with cap going up) and if OG gets a max and then next offseason likely have to extend bridges and he’s getting a raise they are likely with that core thick and thin.

to me the Knicks are no. 2 in the east and can compete with Boston. But if you are just hoping for injuries to overcome Boston then the Knicks should be concerned with their own potential injuries as if Mitchell and OG starting and thibs as HC 

2 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I’m gonna keep throwing crap at the wall. 
If Durant is available, why not go for him? 

Issue is better package for KD out there then the Sixers can offer. Sixers can offer picks and have cap to absorb it. Other teams have young players and picks that likely intrigue the suns more. KD would basically have to say i want to go to Philly and force his way here