12 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think fans are split with a slight edge towards Ace mostly because he has been the consensus #3 guy pretty much all season.

I am in the Bailey camp because I dont want another guard. We already have so many and Im tired of not having rosters that work.

But I do think Daryl will be an Edgecombe guy. Daryl is a stats guy and theres a bunch about Bailey that indicates he may not become a superstar. Edgecombe is an elite athlete, and there is Jrue Holiday 2 way upside there. Daryl does not care about fit. He will be licking his chops to draft Edgecombe, creating the opportunity to trade Maxey for a washed up bum.

It all depends on what they are doing with Embiid and PG. Is Embiid going to actually play this year and not trade PG then you probably take the guy that fits the roster more. If you are trying to move PG and hope Embiid retires and Sixers get that injury exception then you take the best player if that is VJ, Ace, or Maluach.

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some discussion on Bailey

I changed my vote to Bailey. Tre Johnson is a helluva scorer, but can't defend for ****, and doesn't seem to want to. That's a big red flag. A lot of advanced stats not being for Bailey may have to do with the fact that he's super young, and the Rutgers program was horrible. I think we can afford to do a swing and a miss. IMO he has the highest upside after Flagg, so it's worth a shot.

Edjecombe, elite 3 and D player but not a star
Tre Johnson, a 3 point shooting version of Cam Thomas, great scorer, but how much does he help winning.

Givony said, in his podcast with KOC, he lives in New York, so he covered a lot of Rutgers games and practices. He watched Bailey extensively in high school and knows him personally. He believes Bailey is absolutely going to be a star because of his length, explosiveness, and shot-making ability. Givony said if he were the Sixers, he would draft Bailey third 100% he doesn’t see a better alternative. He also mentioned that Edgecombe and Tre Johnson wouldn’t be good fits for the Sixers.

Im still shorting the Ace Bailey stock

Heard an interview yesterday where Morey was asked if they plan to use the pick or use it to bring in a vet. He said the plan is to make a selection with the pick. (But he wouldnt/shouldnt say otherwise even if that wasnt the plan.)

Honestly, its either Bailey, or trade down for me. And I quite like the trade down idea in what is said to be a really good draft.

Thats really werid how the ball rotates on a tilted axis off his hand but he appears to be a great shooter.

58 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

some discussion on Bailey

I like Tre Johnson’s offensive game a lot. I think he’ll stick in the nba cause of it. but like what was said his defense is not just bad but horrifically bad. He could be an average defender but really it comes down to the want to on that end of the floor. I’m not sure you can get that out of him or teach it into him.

I think the sixers should take the best available player that they have ranked regardless of position. I don’t think you can count on Embiid being the player he was and you are just stuck with PG. Probably not going to be 5th worse record this upcoming season and somewhere like middle of the pack. But i think in 2-3 years there’s a realm where Maxey wants to be traded to a contender, PG is gone/expiring contract and you can shape the team in any which way. So take the best player with the most upside and hope they pan out.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I like Tre Johnson’s offensive game a lot. I think he’ll stick in the nba cause of it. but like what was said his defense is not just bad but horrifically bad. He could be an average defender but really it comes down to the want to on that end of the floor. I’m not sure you can get that out of him or teach it into him.

I think the sixers should take the best available player that they have ranked regardless of position. I don’t think you can count on Embiid being the player he was and you are just stuck with PG. Probably not going to be 5th worse record this upcoming season and somewhere like middle of the pack. But i think in 2-3 years there’s a realm where Maxey wants to be traded to a contender, PG is gone/expiring contract and you can shape the team in any which way. So take the best player with the most upside and hope they pan out.

Bailey probably has the most upside. But is also more risk.

Im really intrigued by trying to get a few of Brooklyn's 4 picks starting with #8. But any trade down really to accumulate more assets.

To still get a Kon, Maluach, Queen, Lithuanian guy, + assets is what this team needs for the future rebuild years.

If they are really comfortable with Bailey, then thats better. But if not I think trade down is the way to go.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Bailey probably has the most upside. But is also more risk.

Im really intrigued by trying to get a few of Brooklyn's 4 picks starting with #8. But any trade down really to accumulate more assets.

To still get a Kon, Maluach, Queen, Lithuanian guy, + assets is what this team needs for the future rebuild years.

If they are really comfortable with Bailey, then thats better. But if not I think trade down is the way to go.

Tbh if they were trading down I’d like a pick in this year’s draft and I’d like a pick in a future draft that has limited or no protections in it.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh if they were trading down I’d like a pick in this year’s draft and I’d like a pick in a future draft that has limited or no protections in it.

Im so intrigued by Brooklyn's 4 picks. If you can get 2 or 3 of them. Use #8, and trade one for a potentially better future 1st.

Atlanta has 2 1st rounders as well.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im so intrigued by Brooklyn's 4 picks. If you can get 2 or 3 of them. Use #8, and trade one for a potentially better future 1st.

Atlanta has 2 1st rounders as well.

Tbh I’d be happy if we got 8, 26 and our 2027 pick back (has top 8 protection) from Brooklyn. Could use 26 and 35 to move up a few spots if you really want someone.

so his trade was 19, 27, cam Johnson for oubre, Drummond, 3

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

so his trade was 19, 27, cam Johnson for oubre, Drummond, 3

Thats sorta nice for the 6ers considering the cap space left to try to retain Grimes and Yabu as well.

But you also have to consider how nice you are bring to Brooklyn, an Eastern Conference foe. Letting them have 3 AND 8. 2 top 10 picks in a strong draft. Further, some people think Ace can become the best player in this draft class. Youre giving them the highest potential player in the draft, and letting them keep their best pick in that trade.

Ill do a version of that trade, but Id like 8 back.

42 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Thats sorta nice for the 6ers considering the cap space left to try to retain Grimes and Yabu as well.

But you also have to consider how nice you are bring to Brooklyn, an Eastern Conference foe. Letting them have 3 AND 8. 2 top 10 picks in a strong draft. Further, some people think Ace can become the best player in this draft class. Youre giving them the highest potential player in the draft, and letting them keep their best pick in that trade.

Ill do a version of that trade, but Id like 8 back.

I would have to get eight back in that deal. I’m not giving up #3 and not getting that pick in there. Tbh i like cam but giving up that pick i rather have cam, 8 and 27. I have picked 35. I kind of think from 25 to about 40. There’s gonna be a ton of guys in that range that I don’t think are all that much different from each other in terms of ceiling of a prospect. i think cam and 8 for 3 if nets love bailey or VJ is solid both teams. I get cap wise is harder on sixers but i don’t like moving from 3 to 19. There’s a significant drop off for a guaranteed contract

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would have to get eight back in that deal. I’m not giving up #3 and not getting that pick in there. Tbh i like cam but giving up that pick i rather have cam, 8 and 27. I have picked 35. I kind of think from 25 to about 40. There’s gonna be a ton of guys in that range that I don’t think are all that much different from each other in terms of ceiling of a prospect. i think cam and 8 for 3 if nets love bailey or VJ is solid both teams. I get cap wise is harder on sixers but i don’t like moving from 3 to 19. There’s a significant drop off for a guaranteed contract

agreed.

do it Daryl.

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would have to get eight back in that deal. I’m not giving up #3 and not getting that pick in there. Tbh i like cam but giving up that pick i rather have cam, 8 and 27. I have picked 35. I kind of think from 25 to about 40. There’s gonna be a ton of guys in that range that I don’t think are all that much different from each other in terms of ceiling of a prospect. i think cam and 8 for 3 if nets love bailey or VJ is solid both teams. I get cap wise is harder on sixers but i don’t like moving from 3 to 19. There’s a significant drop off for a guaranteed contract

I want pick 8 or nope

Went back and Listened to the RTRS with Morey on and it sounded like Morey didn't think Yabu was going to be back. With cap reasons with the 3rd pick kind of makes sense unless they trade out

For those questioning Bailey, because Rutgers couldnt win with 2 top 5 talents on their roster, here's a stat that says his presence did elevate the team.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

For those questioning Bailey, because Rutgers couldnt win with 2 top 5 talents on their roster, here's a stat that says his presence did elevate the team.

Bailey is not enormous, he is a tiny 201,and he still was negative while on court. Maybe it was the coaching who let him play AAU basketball or lack of depth around him and Harper but at the end of the day not even getting to 0.500 in Big10 play is something

12 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Bailey is not enormous, he is a tiny 201,and he still was negative while on court. Maybe it was the coaching who let him play AAU basketball or lack of depth around him and Harper but at the end of the day not even getting to 0.500 in Big10 play is something

I believe that was a Givony quote. Maybe the agent is paying him to talk up his size, because Givony is always all over the combine and would know if Bailey is, or is not enormous.

That does sound like hyperbole since Bailey measured in less than his listed height.

But as is pointed out in the video above, hes still going to be like 6'9'' with shoes, and a 7' wing span. So, theres no durant size hype with him, but I think people have gone overboard knocking his size because of that. He is not an undersized player. Size should not be one of the knocks against him. He is also only 18, and will still grow. Youre going to end up with a guy who is 6'10'' with shoes on. Thats big.

The 6ers have had SGs playing SF. It would be nice to have a guy with legit wing size.

They will out smart themselves again with that #3 spot just like they did with the Tatum/Fultz draft and watch Baily end up being the next great thing they give up for another headcase

He should be fired

44 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He should be fired

I have no problem with a small trade down. Hopefully that's all they're considering.

On 5/16/2025 at 12:16 PM, HazletonEagle said:

agreed.

do it Daryl.

Horrible idea