July 8, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Murray would have been a great signing that would have fitted beside Maxey and he is off the board now. Siakam isn't enough of a playmaker to give the max in my opinion. After those two it's a massive drop off to DeRozen, Fultz, and that is about it. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2024/ufa/?ref=trending-pages Aka team is Fed and just blow it up. This
July 8, 20232 yr 56 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Murray would have been a great signing that would have fitted beside Maxey and he is off the board now. Siakam isn't enough of a playmaker to give the max in my opinion. After those two it's a massive drop off to DeRozen, Fultz, and that is about it. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2024/ufa/?ref=trending-pages Aka team is Fed and just blow it up. They were Fed as soon as they signed horford, tobias and extended Simmons. But reality is they aren’t going to blow it up until embiid asks for a trade out. There’s also guys with players options that I’m guessing the sixers are interested in. Also guys entering last year of contract that might become available as new cba is much harsher so some teams might not want to pay or hit the apron’s. Space to take on contracts in a team blowing it up who are useful players. I’m assuming that’s how Morey, Harris and the Sixers are viewing it again, 2024 could bust in the face and it likely does. However, if their options in 23-24 are they are not gonna win a title by adding marginal players, making trades that still leave you behind the top 3 in the east and they lose flexibility in making those trades where embiid definitively asks out or giving yourself a chance for flexibility and cap in 2024 to potentially put themselves into a better spot, which are you going to take as an organization not wanting to part with embiid? The answer is 2024 for the sixers organization again, I am not saying it is going to work. frankly i don’t think it will cause Philly isn’t a destination. However, between the options that they have it is the better option as they aren’t dealing embiid til he demands it.
July 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: They were Fed as soon as they signed horford, tobias and extended Simmons. But reality is they aren’t going to blow it up until embiid asks for a trade out. There’s also guys with players options that I’m guessing the sixers are interested in. Also guys entering last year of contract that might become available as new cba is much harsher so some teams might not want to pay or hit the apron’s. Space to take on contracts in a team blowing it up who are useful players. I’m assuming that’s how Morey, Harris and the Sixers are viewing it again, 2024 could bust in the face and it likely does. However, if their options in 23-24 are they are not gonna win a title by adding marginal players, making trades that still leave you behind the top 3 in the east and they lose flexibility in making those trades where embiid definitively asks out or giving yourself a chance for flexibility and cap in 2024 to potentially put themselves into a better spot, which are you going to take as an organization not wanting to part with embiid? The answer is 2024 for the sixers organization again, I am not saying it is going to work. frankly i don’t think it will cause Philly isn’t a destination. However, between the options that they have it is the better option as they aren’t dealing embiid til he demands it. They traded Bridges for Zhaire and didn't trade Simmons for Haliburton after those moves so were not dead yet. What if Embiid sees Brunson ball out for team USA and says f it I want to be traded to the Knicks. They wasted a summer for the inevitable
July 8, 20232 yr 36 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: They traded Bridges for Zhaire and didn't trade Simmons for Haliburton after those moves so were not dead yet. What if Embiid sees Brunson ball out for team USA and says f it I want to be traded to the Knicks. They wasted a summer for the inevitable zhaire for bridges happened in the 2018 nba draft. Horford, Harris and simmons extension happened in 2019 offseason. So a full year after that bridges trade where did i say it was gonna work? Nowhere did i say it was going to. In fact i expect it not too and more negative on it all working out. i said the better option is the flexibility and cap in 2024 then taking longer contracts to try to win in 23-24, harder to trade contracts and not win. And that’s clearly the case the organization accepted as I’m not sure there’s a move out there that puts them over the top besides lillard who doesnt want to come here what player or trade THIS offseason were they making to put this current team over the top of the east? Lavine? No one has confirmed he just be given away for tobias or harden. Just rumors. Tobias for expiring contracts (worse players) or long term contract on a player just slightly above average with expiring contracts or harden for Powell, morris and Covington? Neither of those are doing it. That’s not beating the bucks, Miami with dame or Boston. I’m sure embiid also would look at it and likely say none of these guys are helping me either and it potentially kills us future years. I’m for Making deals that make sense not making a change just to make a change, getting yourself into potentially worse/hard to move contracts and being in worse spot in 2024 onward. Making a move to make a move could be potentially crippling move in their mind and Fs them over with embiid too. If we are playing what if, what if embiid trusts morey, Harris and sixers with the plan of run it back then provide cap and flexibility in 2024 to build the team around him better if it fails. Add on they allow him to be very involved in those decisions and he’s accepted the grand ponzi scheme they are selling. What if has bought in and believes that? So we can play the what if game. but there’s about 1000 different scenarios if we want to do it. again they’ve decided as an organization that the better option is flexibility (or hoping a star in trade becomes available) then tying themselves into bad contracts or longer contracts that are harder to move where if it fails you have no or less flexibility and then embiid is definitely asking for a trade. also I’ve mentioned this 3-4 times as Bob Cooney has mentioned multiple times on the radio, from what he’s been told embiid can’t be traded til next offseason due to his extension. If that’s the case they can’t trade embiid if you, me and every sixers fan on earth wanted too. If Bob is correct, even if it’s inevitable it doesn’t matter.
July 8, 20232 yr I don't know if there's been reports or someone is just saying there's been reports... but supposedly a Siakam trade is expected to happen before training camp. And supposedly he is interested in reuniting with Nurse. If you can turn Harden in to LaVine and Harris in to Siakam that's a pretty good team. If you can turn this Reed offer sheet in to a sign and trade for some rotation worthy wing, it turns in to a solid offseason.
July 8, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: I don't know if there's been reports or someone is just saying there's been reports... but supposedly a Siakam trade is expected to happen before training camp. And supposedly he is interested in reuniting with Nurse. If you can turn Harden in to LaVine and Harris in to Siakam that's a pretty good team. If you can turn this Reed offer sheet in to a sign and trade for some rotation worthy wing, it turns in to a solid offseason. Reed can’t be a sign and trade according to reports since he signed the offer sheet. if he could get Lavine and Siakam, then you do it because it’s a trade that actually makes you into a contender and basically what they are trying to accomplish next offseason. But some of the people complaining about trades where you get a marginal player on a longer deal that hinders your flexibility and cap in 2024 isn’t the deal to do
July 8, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Reed can’t be a sign and trade according to reports since he signed the offer sheet. if he could get Lavine and Siakam, then you do it because it’s a trade that actually makes you into a contender and basically what they are trying to accomplish next offseason. But some of the people complaining about trades where you get a marginal player on a longer deal that hinders your flexibility and cap in 2024 isn’t the deal to do Oh crap didnt realize that on Reed. Daryl sleeping again. I do think LaVine and Siakam is a solid offseason. Now, youll be stuck with LaVine who has a bunch of years left on his deal, but Siakam is still an expiring who you can make a choice with next summer. On the other hand, hes going to be the best free agent available so you probably may as well sign him too. Im not sure if that team is quite good enough... but it should be a fun group with Nurse's style.
July 9, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said: What style do we expect from Nurse? summer league is a flaming bag of poo so far Supposed to be more ball movement on offense. Pretty much opposite of what we have seen with Embiid, and Embiid and Harden. Defense varies. Mixes in zones at times, and the old fun TJ McConnell style of pressing before mid-court.
July 9, 20232 yr Im hoping Nurse unlocks another level of Maxey due to the ball movement. Maxey learned a 3 point shot and became dependent on it in the half court because he could never drive with Embiid dribbling the ball for 20 seconds drawing triple teams under the basket. Maxey only got to the basket in transition when he outran everyone down the court. With movement in the offense that should create lanes for cutters and Maxey should be much more dangerous as he can now be more than a step back 3 chucker in the half court offense.
July 9, 20232 yr This guy that I posted earlier seems like he is possibly in the loop. He called something earlier. I think it might have been the Bamba move. I believe he mentioned LaVine a while ago. He mentioned a Paul sign and trade before Paul signed the offer sheet, so he was kinda off on that but seemed to know something was going down with Paul. So he says we are likely to match the offer sheet. But it seems contingent on being able to trade Furkan somewhere. For tax reasons.
July 9, 20232 yr The contract is sort of a ballooning poison pill as we have seen reports of year 2 and 3 increasing to 15M. However, I think Paul will be a tradable player. And I dont think that price will be prohibitive for other teams with interest. Hes a player seemingly on the rise. If Nurse can further his development, he might look like a very attractive asset by this time next summer, or next deadline. Player breaking out, signed for the next 2 years on a nice mid-priced contract. I dont think matching this offer sheet kills our chances of having 2 max slots next year. I think you can trade him.
July 9, 20232 yr here is an interesting point if the 6ers try to justify losing Reed due to luxury tax On the other hand, if they fill those last 3 spots with G league guys like Council or Louis King, Smith, and Petrusev, then maybe thats not true.
July 9, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: I don't know if there's been reports or someone is just saying there's been reports... but supposedly a Siakam trade is expected to happen before training camp. And supposedly he is interested in reuniting with Nurse. If you can turn Harden in to LaVine and Harris in to Siakam that's a pretty good team. If you can turn this Reed offer sheet in to a sign and trade for some rotation worthy wing, it turns in to a solid offseason. We will probably need to throw in a good amount of draft capital along with Harden and Harris to pull off those trades, especially if we're keeping Maxey, but we can always take a page out of Les Snead's handbook and say "F them picks":
July 9, 20232 yr 46 minutes ago, eaglesfan0075 said: We will probably need to throw in a good amount of draft capital along with Harden and Harris to pull off those trades, especially if we're keeping Maxey, but we can always take a page out of Les Snead's handbook and say "F them picks": I am not sure what Siakam will go for. Hes an expiring contract (which is an asset), but who will likely be the top free agent on the market next year (a possible 1 year rental). Things going for, and against his value. If he gets to name his next team and includes 6ers on the list, that helps us too. He may require more than just Harris. But Harris is kind of a plug and play starter and easy replacement for them. And is also an expiring contract. Its fairly even as is. If you have to sweeten the pot to get a deal done, I wouldnt hesitate to part with Tucker, or even Melton who is another expiring contract. I dont think LaVine will require all that much. It seems his contract is viewed as a negative asset around the league. And Chicago just paid him last year and is already trying to get out of it.
July 9, 20232 yr 6ers group for the group stage of the mid-season tournament is not bad at all. Cavs, Hawks, Pistons, Pacers. Most of them are up and coming but 6ers should still be the top of that group.
July 9, 20232 yr https://www.facebook.com/reel/677529630855066?mibextid=xO1PvT&s=yWDuG2&fs=e Harrell getting absolutely wrecked by what looks like some random guy with old man knees and cement block feet, and a weird shot in some LA Fitness gym somewhere.
July 9, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: These groups are pathetic. Extremely unfair. The 6ers have by far the easiest path. West is back to be being a deeper conference
July 9, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: The contract is sort of a ballooning poison pill as we have seen reports of year 2 and 3 increasing to 15M. However, I think Paul will be a tradable player. And I dont think that price will be prohibitive for other teams with interest. Hes a player seemingly on the rise. If Nurse can further his development, he might look like a very attractive asset by this time next summer, or next deadline. Player breaking out, signed for the next 2 years on a nice mid-priced contract. I dont think matching this offer sheet kills our chances of having 2 max slots next year. I think you can trade him. Just let him go now. He isnt a factor
July 9, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: Just let him go now. He isnt a factor Im fine with or without him. Im not with the people on facebook talking like we are losing a surefire perennial all-star. Though they are right that Daryl sucks at his job. But Im also not with those who say to let him go because Ainge outwitted us with the contract. I think the contract is reasonable, and his ability, youth, and reasonable mid-priced contract will be a very tradable piece which wont inhibit us from doing anything we want next summer.
July 9, 20232 yr I am seeing some realgm guys echoing my thoughts. Ainge really did us a favor. That contract will be a nice asset next summer.
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