June 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: For the same reason this thread even exists. The mural is on private property and not near other homes and yet people are upset about "virtue signaling" and joking if they should be clapping, or asking why the team is trying to "normalize everything" and so on. I know it's the off-season, so there's really nothing else to talk about, but if you're more bothered by this mural than "frisky grandpa" shooting at beer cans, then that's pretty weird if you ask me. Who?
June 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, judunno said: I actually think shooting at beer cans is pretty cool. Hope to one day have a big enough property to be so reckless. But his reasoning and why he recorded it... not so cool in my humble opinion. The funny thing is he was using an MP5 not an AR....I guess people just call everything an AR these days. Hope you also have the cash to pay for a pre 86 full auto as well.
June 5, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Procus said: Perhaps. I would also add that those screaming "bigot" are often the most intolerant, bigoted people out there. They have zero room for any points of view that don't fit within their narrative. I was watching the OXYGEN (True Crime) channel today and they showed an episode of a Canadian gay serial killer, killing fellow gays after having sessions with them, then he would dress their dead bodies is a fur coat and take pictures of them. Would one be considered bigoted if they have a problem with serial killers? Point being, everyone is bigoted in one form or another so the label means nothing.
June 5, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, judunno said: Doesn't even look all that pride month to me. Just looked like they added a splash of color. Are we sure it's not for World Reef Day lol? Yeah, it’s so non confrontational lol. If we’re doing pride, do pride. People are still gonna be upset they’re "forced” to see colors.
June 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: The funny thing is he was using an MP5 not an AR....I guess people just call everything an AR these days. Hope you also have the cash to pay for a pre 86 full auto as well. Oh ok, so it was an SMG, that certainly changes everything.
June 5, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Oh ok, so it was an SMG, that certainly changes everything. Yeah, only if facts matter while mocking someone, but it's good for people to always say AR15 just to cover the woke outrage. One you can buy at Bass Pro today and the other you have to wait 6 months+ for a stamp. I'm shocked Kid passed the background check and was able to buy one in Michigan...and that he lives in a town where he can discharge that on his property without it being illegal.
June 5, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Yeah, only if facts matter while mocking someone, but it's good for people to always say AR15 just to cover the woke outrage. One you can buy at Bass Pro today and the other you have to wait 6 months+ for a stamp. I'm shocked Kid passed the background check and was able to buy one in Michigan...and that he lives in a town where he can discharge that on his property without it being illegal. Facts that are very relevant to the matter regarding faux outrage over what's printed on the side of a beer can.
June 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: The funny thing is he was using an MP5 not an AR....I guess people just call everything an AR these days. Hope you also have the cash to pay for a pre 86 full auto as well. Fun fact... AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle
June 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, WentzFan11 said: Yeah, it’s so non confrontational lol. If we’re doing pride, do pride. People are still gonna be upset they’re "forced” to see colors. Maybe it's the discreet gender symbols that you can barely see unless you're looking hard? ha
June 5, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, WentzFan11 said: So are white people normal in the US? If you are talking about behavior, than the answer is: the normal ones (there are normal white people and normal POC --- as well as the opposite). Skin color isn't a behavior. If you are asking about demographics, it would be normal to find "white people" in a large percentage (but not necessarily all) of US locations. Is it normal to be autistic? Is it normal to have MS? No, those are conditions. Is it normal to be an Eagles fan? No. That's a choice. Is it normal to be 7' tall? No. Abnormal isn't always a bad thing. It's simply a fact. But the sensitivity police of this world want to redefine words and replace factual truth with pretense in a clear effort to promote a way of thinking that isn't or wasn't culturally popular. I totally understand why people want stigmas to go away. But it isn't going to work through bullying people and demanding that they think like you want them to think. It isn't going to work by placing a stigma on those that disagree. It isn't going to work by pretending the abnormal is normal. We've seen a lot of tension stoked in the US (and the world) the last few years, in politics, in sports / entertainment, in the media, etc... We have people demanding that other people change so the world will be better. That is cringeworthy ignorance. When I was a teenager, my sister was a big Michael Jackson fan. Personally, I wasn't a fan of that genre of music or him for that matter. He was extremely talented, regardless of my taste in music / entertainment. But Michael said it best in Man In the Mirror: "I'm starting with the man in the mirror I'm asking him to change his ways And no message could've been any clearer If they wanna make the world a better place Take a look at yourself and then make a change" People aren't going to change anything about anybody else, no matter how loud they scream.
June 6, 20232 yr 58 minutes ago, brkmsn said: We have people demanding that other people change Dude, it's just a mural. It's not bullying, or screaming, or a "demand" for anyone to stop acting like a crotchety old fart. It's just meant to make a marginalized group of people feel accepted and a little bit better about themselves. Nobody is forcing you to go the stadium to see the mural.
June 6, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Dude, it's just a mural. It's not bullying, or screaming, or a "demand" for anyone to stop acting like a crotchety old fart. It's just meant to make a marginalized group of people feel accepted and a little bit better about themselves. Nobody is forcing you to go the stadium to see the mural. The mural is just conversation. It's one of many ways to virtue signal as an organization. I don't find it shocking at all. In fact. I expect that from Lurie. But who is asking you to defend it? You seem awfully concerned. Would you defend a mural on the Eagles' property depicting the birth, crucifixion and resurrection of Christ? That, too, would make a marginalized group of people feel accepted. There are a lot of players that have vocalized their Christian faith so there would be more team representation for any message it represents. The only problem is that the government isn't telling the banks to "promote a Christian message" like it is with CEI. The banks have to look over their shoulder as does the NFL (which still has a tax exempt league status). So virtue signaling keeps them in good favor. I doubt even you believe there is anymore to this than the almighty dollar.
June 6, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, brkmsn said: That, too, would make a marginalized group of people feel accepted. Ah yes, who can forget the historically persecuted group of Americans known as... *checks notes* Christians.
June 6, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ah yes, who can forget the historically persecuted group of Americans known as... *checks notes* Christians. Eagles wings with the Qur'an in the middle of it would have hit harder :)
June 6, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ah yes, who can forget the historically persecuted group of Americans known as... *checks notes* Christians. Current times aren't "history" yet, but the writing is on the wall. Why are modern so called "free" nations putting people in jail for reading parts of the Bible out loud? Anyway, I guess I'll presume you would not be in favor of such a mural. There was a cemetery in a nearby town that for years had a beautiful planter on an adjacent hillside, but happened to be in the shape of a cross. They were pressured to remove it (from their own property) because some found the cross offensive. It must be nice to live in a world where you believe this stuff isn't happening on a daily basis. Christian based organizations and churches aren't getting death threats or vandalized. Christian founded companies aren't in court defending their rights to do business according to their beliefs. Christian authors aren't getting their events canceled or crashed by protesters. All is fine today.
June 6, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, brkmsn said: Current times aren't "history" yet, but the writing is on the wall. The writing is on the wall? Gotta tell ya, I absolutely love the fact that when pressed to come up with an analogy for a marginalized group of people, the best your brain could come up with is a religious faction that absolutely dwarfs all others in America. The next closest is Judaism at a whopping 2%. Even if you want to lump in all unaffiliated, agnostic, and atheist groups together, they still don't make up half of the percentage of Christians. By every single metric, Christians always have and still do own a literal majority in America and yet you're really trying to hammer home this message of persecution? Victim-complex much? Quote Why are modern so called "free" nations putting people in jail for reading parts of the Bible out loud? Duly noted for when the Eagles organization paint a stadium mural in whatever country you may be referring to. Meanwhile here in America, where the Linc is located, your point is completely nonsensical and has no relevance whatsoever. Quote Anyway, I guess I'll presume you would not be in favor of such a mural. *pointless anecdote that is not in anyway representative of the majority of cases in America* Well then you'd presume incorrectly. If it was a Christian mural and there were people making similar ridiculous comments about it being virtue signaling or bullying or whatever else, I'd be calling them out too and telling them to chill out instead of getting so bothered by a colorful painting with Eagles wings on it.
June 6, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Diehard Yeah, I take issue with the league shunning people who come out or want to come out then virtue signaling that they support LGBTQ. They are the orginal don't say gay or kiss your career bye. I also prefer sports to be about sports but if they are jumping in be consistent. What some d level celebrity does that is idiotic and obviously for attention is separate.
June 6, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, judunno said: Fun fact... AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle Sure it does. It also takes clips.
June 6, 20232 yr 14 hours ago, EagleVA said: I was watching the OXYGEN (True Crime) channel today and they showed an episode of a Canadian gay serial killer, killing fellow gays after having sessions with them, then he would dress their dead bodies is a fur coat and take pictures of them. Would one be considered bigoted if they have a problem with serial killers? Point being, everyone is bigoted in one form or another so the label means nothing. You think bigotry just means not liking a group of people? For example If a bunch of us were sat in a bar talking and I said 'Damn I saw a programme on serial killers last night man, that serial killer stuff gives me the heebie geebies, imagine meeting one', and then you said 'yeah I don't like Gays', that the whole group would call us both bigots because it's the same thing? HOLYYYYYY SHEEEEIT.
June 6, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Yeah, I take issue with the league shunning people who come out or want to come out then virtue signaling that they support LGBTQ. They are the orginal don't say gay or kiss your career bye. I also prefer sports to be about sports but if they are jumping in be consistent. What some d level celebrity does that is idiotic and obviously for attention is separate. I mean, you keep saying it, but I've yet to see the eagles shunning anyone. And yet you fail to see how your preference for sports to just be about sports is directly at odds with a welcoming locker room culture for those who do want to come out.
June 6, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I mean, you keep saying it, but I've yet to see the eagles shunning anyone. And yet you fail to see how your preference for sports to just be about sports is directly at odds with a welcoming locker room culture for those who do want to come out. You like being argumentative to be argumentative. The NFL has not welcomed LGTBQ players and you know that. Taking that stance then painting a wall to say they are with them doesn't match the league's actions, which the Eagles are a part of. It's virtue signaling. I prefer sports to be about sports and that isn't at odds. They can welcome every color and orientation as they should and not jump into political or social events. I'd be fine with a mural in this case if they actually lived it but they don't so it rubs me the wrong way. They are jumping in to make a statement and I'd prefer sports to quietly live things rather than look at us.
June 6, 20232 yr Snowflakes. So thinned skin that other people doing things that affect them not at all, makes them queef. Kind of sad, really.
June 6, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: You like being argumentative to be argumentative. The NFL has not welcomed LGTBQ players and you know that. Taking that stance then painting a wall to say they are with them doesn't match the league's actions, which the Eagles are a part of. It's virtue signaling. I prefer sports to be about sports and that isn't at odds. They can welcome every color and orientation as they should and not jump into political or social events. I'd be fine with a mural in this case if they actually lived it but they don't so it rubs me the wrong way. They are jumping in to make a statement and I'd prefer sports to quietly live things rather than look at us. The Eagles can't control what other teams do. And no, you can't in one breath say you want the league to be more welcoming of gay players, and then in the next breath say you prefer sports to just be about sports rather than social messaging. The fact that these players don't feel welcomed is precisely because of these "don't ask, don't tell" types of attitudes. It's not something they should have to hide in the locker room, and while a mural isn't going to change that type of culture overnight, it's at least an indication that there is not direct opposition at the ownership level.
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