September 12, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, The_Omega said: You could still drop them off at the local public library and let the local drag queens take care of them. Man, what a triggered post. Get a grip.
September 12, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: We used to drive all the way to Exton when I was a kid. That or hit up the Chester County Bookmobile. That’s a great story. It’s like an after-school special.
September 12, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Man, what a triggered post. Get a grip. It’s called a joke. I do that with people I like. That might be why you didn’t recognize it.
September 12, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Bill said: Shooting a gun for realsies in a real scenario is actually kinda hard. It’s a lot different than going to the range and shooting a target that doesn’t move. People watch too many movies..... Shooting under stress is incredibly difficult, even for professionals - that's why Cops routinely have to shoot 10-17 rounds to neutralize a suspect.
September 12, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, The_Omega said: It’s called a joke. I do that with people I like. That might be why you didn’t recognize it. My apologies. I'm used to jokes actually being funny.
September 12, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, Paul852 said: My apologies. I'm used to jokes actually being funny. Yeah, my bad, humor must always be generalized enough to be appreciated by everyone. Stay proud as there’s no higher calling than message board heckler.
September 12, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Yeah, my bad, humor must always be generalized enough to be appreciated by everyone. Stay proud as there’s no higher calling than message board heckler. It's called a joke. Lighten up.
September 12, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said: It's called a joke. Lighten up. You sure are funny looking.
September 12, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: It's called a joke. Lighten up. yeah, but you started all this by not recognizing his veiled humor, which may mean he doesn't not like you.
September 12, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, iladelphxx said: People watch too many movies..... Shooting under stress is incredibly difficult, even for professionals - that's why Cops routinely have to shoot 10-17 rounds to neutralize a suspect. Yeah back when I was on the job I looked into some research and the average number of rounds expended per cop per engagement is somewhere around 4-6, and the average engagement distance was less than 6 feet. Oddly enough, the longer the engagement range, the less number of rounds that are fired. Presumably this is due to the officer actually taking the time to aim. So yeah, up close and personal the body gets a dump of adrenaline, fine motor skills go out the window, and it becomes a ish show. Something that is becoming popular is the use of physical exercise during firearms training in order to get the heart rate up to better simulate the physical conditions of an engagement.
September 12, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, paco said: I prefer slugs over buck shot. I don't care about the spread, I'm all about knockdown power. LOL.
September 12, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Bill said: Yeah back when I was on the job I looked into some research and the average number of rounds expended per cop per engagement is somewhere around 4-6, and the average engagement distance was less than 6 feet. Oddly enough, the longer the engagement range, the less number of rounds that are fired. Presumably this is due to the officer actually taking the time to aim. So yeah, up close and personal the body gets a dump of adrenaline, fine motor skills go out the window, and it becomes a ish show. Something that is becoming popular is the use of physical exercise during firearms training in order to get the heart rate up to better simulate the physical conditions of an engagement. That's a good idea, kinda like doing sprints while practicing free throws.
September 12, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, Bill said: Yeah back when I was on the job I looked into some research and the average number of rounds expended per cop per engagement is somewhere around 4-6, and the average engagement distance was less than 6 feet. Oddly enough, the longer the engagement range, the less number of rounds that are fired. Presumably this is due to the officer actually taking the time to aim. So yeah, up close and personal the body gets a dump of adrenaline, fine motor skills go out the window, and it becomes a ish show. Something that is becoming popular is the use of physical exercise during firearms training in order to get the heart rate up to better simulate the physical conditions of an engagement. Adrenaline can cause suspects to have super human strength/stamina as well. My buddy was issued a 45 ACP Glock 21 when he joined the PPD back in like 2010. (I believe they went back to 9mm since) and he got involved in a shooting not long after. There was this big ass bodybuilder looking guy who was whacked out on PCP who started attacking civilians and police officers in West Philly. He wrestled a cop to the ground and almost got his gun, and they finally lit him up- I think between the 3 cops who fired, they each emptied their 13 round mags and hit him 15 times. They still had to wrestle the guy into the ER - he told me the guy's calf muscle was practically blown off the bone. I know someone else who was shot during a firefight in Afghanistan and he didn't even realize he was shot until he felt the wetness from his blood pooling in this pants once the shooting stopped.
September 12, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: That's a good idea, kinda like doing sprints while practicing free throws. Good idea, I still don't trust the people doing the training. They should do sprints and then try and do some desecaltion techniques instead of shoot to kill with the first shot stuff. Just a thought.
September 12, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, jsdarkstar said: Good idea, I still don't trust the people doing the training. They should do sprints and then try and do some desecaltion techniques instead of shoot to kill with the first shot stuff. Just a thought. If you are practicing shooting, you practice shooting lol. I do agree the more training across the board the better.
September 12, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Good idea, I still don't trust the people doing the training. They should do sprints and then try and do some desecaltion techniques instead of shoot to kill with the first shot stuff. Just a thought. There is no training that is a "shoot to kill”. All shots to anywhere are potentially lethal. It’s why I always roll my eyes when something me says to shoot the bad guy in the leg. The femoral artery is big and it pumps a lot of blood. So much blood that if it’s severed it can cause enough blood loss over 30 seconds to be fatal. LE training is to aim for center mass (the torso). It’s because it’s the biggest target area and when fine motor skills go out the window you want the officer to aim for the largest available target area. Also, de escalation isn’t really applicable when there is an immediate threat of loss of life or serious bodily injury. The thing keeping better training from happening is money. You need a lot of it for it to work. Big cities don’t have the money because a huge chunk of their tax revenue goes to social programs, and big city liberals had the whole defund the police thing. In rural areas, conservatives want to be frugal with tax money to a fault, so departments there are severely underfunded to "save the taxpayers”.
September 12, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Bill said: There is no training that is a "shoot to kill”. All shots to anywhere are potentially lethal. It’s why I always roll my eyes when something me says to shoot the bad guy in the leg. The femoral artery is big and it pumps a lot of blood. So much blood that if it’s severed it can cause enough blood loss over 30 seconds to be fatal. LE training is to aim for center mass (the torso). It’s because it’s the biggest target area and when fine motor skills go out the window you want the officer to aim for the largest available target area. Also, de escalation isn’t really applicable when there is an immediate threat of loss of life or serious bodily injury. The thing keeping better training from happening is money. You need a lot of it for it to work. Big cities don’t have the money because a huge chunk of their tax revenue goes to social programs, and big city liberals had the whole defund the police thing. In rural areas, conservatives want to be frugal with tax money to a fault, so departments there are severely underfunded to "save the taxpayers”. People don't realize how fast it happens, either
September 12, 20232 yr 32 minutes ago, Bill said: The femoral artery is big and it pumps a lot of blood. So much blood that if it’s severed it can cause enough blood loss over 30 seconds to be fatal. Yep. That's how Sean Taylor died.
September 12, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, The_Omega said: That’s a great story. It’s like an after-school special. @Dave Moss telling us all what life was like in PA way back in the 80s
September 12, 20232 yr @BFit not posting in here, he's on him, tracking him down like only BFit can do
September 12, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: @Dave Moss telling us all what life was like in PA way back in the 80s It’s been a minute since I thought about the Chester County Bookmobile
September 12, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: @BFit not posting in here, he's on him, tracking him down like only BFit can do my buddy whose a cop in the area just got called to join the hunt. my brother was out checking his trail cams today on his side by side with his AR and body armor. this was my uncles view out of his back door this morning. if i didnt have a job that i had to be on earlier, theres a chance that i would have been this guy seriously though, this is a little too close to home. my brother was up all night with his AR and p320 next to the bed. the house that was broken into was my uncles neighbor. only way i knew it wasnt my uncles house when i heard about it was because the guy missed. my uncle has 2 packed trophy rooms in his house, hes not missing a big game shot.
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