January 27Jan 27 2 hours ago, VeeMak said: I thought you said you were quitting the boards 😂 No just the gameday threads and for nonsenese like this....."Daniels will out-run him AND out throw him. Hurts sucks. He holds the ball forever, can't read a defense to save his life, took a safety in a playoff game.... flat out sucks. I would rather see tanner start. Well I guess daniels did out run and throw him, oh well best of luck to daniels on the golf course next week after the parade for better stats than hurts
January 28Jan 28 2 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said: No just the gameday threads and for nonsenese like this....."Daniels will out-run him AND out throw him. Hurts sucks. He holds the ball forever, can't read a defense to save his life, took a safety in a playoff game.... flat out sucks. I would rather see tanner start. Well I guess daniels did out run and throw him, oh well best of luck to daniels on the golf course next week after the parade for better stats than hurts You should quote someone else besides @Swimm🤣
January 28Jan 28 6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Just wondering for the Josh Allen is god lovers out there. If Jalen does, what Allen fails to do (again) does Jalen finally surpass that guy in your minds? You know what some will say. "It takes the whole TEAM to win." "The defense and Barkley won the game despite Hurts."
January 28Jan 28 3 hours ago, Portyansky said: You should quote someone else besides @Swimm🤣 That was not him, unless they are clones
January 28Jan 28 14 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said: No just the gameday threads and for nonsenese like this....."Daniels will out-run him AND out throw him. Hurts sucks. He holds the ball forever, can't read a defense to save his life, took a safety in a playoff game.... flat out sucks. I would rather see tanner start. Well I guess daniels did out run and throw him, oh well best of luck to daniels on the golf course next week after the parade for better stats than hurts It's amazing how many more pass attempts a team must have when they are down 3 or 4 scores in the 2nd half.
January 28Jan 28 I like Hurts, but I'd be lying if I didn't say he's one of the strangest QBs by the numbers that I've seen. Like putting up games like the Rams game but still ended up doing stuff like being the only Eagles QB to ever go to 2 SBs, breaking a streak of over 30 years of SB losing QBs that never returned to the SB after losing their first SB, having the most rushing TDs ever in the postseason, amazing winning % in the postseason and regular season, stuff like this. Then you have QBs like Rodgers who was amazing in his prime and yet he only ever made it to 1 SB, whereas Hurts is about to start his second (and would've won the first one he started if the refs didn't F the Eagles over on that weak af holding call). Meanwhile QBs like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, both of which put up crazy good numbers, never even made it to a SB once. Then you look at Hurts' season numbers, which aren't anything super amazing: 20th in passing yards, 20th in passing TDs, 16th in completion %, 10th in QBR, etc. and you don't think he should be as successful as he's been, but yet here we are.
January 28Jan 28 2 hours ago, Eagles_ftw said: I like Hurts, but I'd be lying if I didn't say he's one of the strangest QBs by the numbers that I've seen. Like putting up games like the Rams game but still ended up doing stuff like being the only Eagles QB to ever go to 2 SBs, breaking a streak of over 30 years of SB losing QBs that never returned to the SB after losing their first SB, having the most rushing TDs ever in the postseason, amazing winning % in the postseason and regular season, stuff like this. Then you have QBs like Rodgers who was amazing in his prime and yet he only ever made it to 1 SB, whereas Hurts is about to start his second (and would've won the first one he started if the refs didn't F the Eagles over on that weak af holding call). Meanwhile QBs like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, both of which put up crazy good numbers, never even made it to a SB once. Then you look at Hurts' season numbers, which aren't anything super amazing: 20th in passing yards, 20th in passing TDs, 16th in completion %, 10th in QBR, etc. and you don't think he should be as successful as he's been, but yet here we are. It's because Jalen only cares about wins, so that's the only stat that's important. He's going to do whatever is necessary to win, and that's it.
January 28Jan 28 My dad's Hurts comp is Tebow and it drives me insane. Simply because Hurts has a tendency to hold onto the ball longer than most QB's.
January 30Jan 30 On 1/28/2025 at 6:01 PM, Devaster said: My dad's Hurts comp is Tebow and it drives me insane. Simply because Hurts has a tendency to hold onto the ball longer than most QB's. It's such a lazy and stupid comp. Jalen Hurts can really throw. But if holding it long is the only reason, Wentz was more Tebow than Hurts.
January 30Jan 30 On 1/28/2025 at 8:59 AM, Eagles_ftw said: I like Hurts, but I'd be lying if I didn't say he's one of the strangest QBs by the numbers that I've seen. Like putting up games like the Rams game but still ended up doing stuff like being the only Eagles QB to ever go to 2 SBs, breaking a streak of over 30 years of SB losing QBs that never returned to the SB after losing their first SB, having the most rushing TDs ever in the postseason, amazing winning % in the postseason and regular season, stuff like this. Then you have QBs like Rodgers who was amazing in his prime and yet he only ever made it to 1 SB, whereas Hurts is about to start his second (and would've won the first one he started if the refs didn't F the Eagles over on that weak af holding call). Meanwhile QBs like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, both of which put up crazy good numbers, never even made it to a SB once. Then you look at Hurts' season numbers, which aren't anything super amazing: 20th in passing yards, 20th in passing TDs, 16th in completion %, 10th in QBR, etc. and you don't think he should be as successful as he's been, but yet here we are. I think his supporting cast has a WHOLE LOT to do with it. Remove Barkey substitute Gainwell. Remove A.J. Brown, substitute Johnny Wilson or Paris Campbell. Same idea with the defense but perhaps moreso. I'm pretty sure this season would have been a different story. I'm not throwing shade at Jalen but he certainly had some help this season.
January 30Jan 30 1 hour ago, eglz1 said: I think his supporting cast has a WHOLE LOT to do with it. Remove Barkey substitute Gainwell. Remove A.J. Brown, substitute Johnny Wilson or Paris Campbell. Same idea with the defense but perhaps moreso. I'm pretty sure this season would have been a different story. I'm not throwing shade at Jalen but he certainly had some help this season. Yeah I think it’s fair to say Jalen doesn’t elevate the talent around him. Hopefully though he will take deals that allows us to surround him with talent.
January 30Jan 30 1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Yeah I think it’s fair to say Jalen doesn’t elevate the talent around him. Hopefully though he will take deals that allows us to surround him with talent. Yup, take a hint from Tom Brady. He didn't demand mega$$$$ contracts, supposedly in part so that the Patriots could pay other key team members. I imagine having a wife at the time whose paycheck dwarfed Tom's probably didn't hurt either.
January 31Jan 31 On 1/28/2025 at 5:59 AM, Eagles_ftw said: I like Hurts, but I'd be lying if I didn't say he's one of the strangest QBs by the numbers that I've seen. Like putting up games like the Rams game but still ended up doing stuff like being the only Eagles QB to ever go to 2 SBs, breaking a streak of over 30 years of SB losing QBs that never returned to the SB after losing their first SB, having the most rushing TDs ever in the postseason, amazing winning % in the postseason and regular season, stuff like this. Then you have QBs like Rodgers who was amazing in his prime and yet he only ever made it to 1 SB, whereas Hurts is about to start his second (and would've won the first one he started if the refs didn't F the Eagles over on that weak af holding call). Meanwhile QBs like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, both of which put up crazy good numbers, never even made it to a SB once. Then you look at Hurts' season numbers, which aren't anything super amazing: 20th in passing yards, 20th in passing TDs, 16th in completion %, 10th in QBR, etc. and you don't think he should be as successful as he's been, but yet here we are. FYI, Hurts was 8th (not 16th) in completion percentage and averaged more air yards per target than the 7 QBs with higher completion percentages. For example Tua and Goff led the NFL in completion percentage with 72.9% and 72.4% and their respective air yards per target were 5.6 and 6.8. Hurts' completion percentage was 68.7% and his average air yards per target was 8.0 yards. Mahomes was 10th in completion percentage with 67.5% and his average air yards per target is 6.3 yards. The "totals" are not a good measurement in effectiveness. Averages are much better for that. A team that passes 43% of the time will have much lower passing totals than a team that passes 57% time. The important thing is how much more effective are your passing percentages are when compared to a team that passes more. So in straight yards per attempt, Hurts was 4th in the NFL at 8 yards per attempt (same number but different metric than air yards per attempt), while Mahomes was 26th at 6.8 yards. Hurts had a 1.4% INT percentage and a 5.0 TD percentage compared to Mahomes at 1.9% and 4.5% respectively. Hurts had a higher tight window throw percentage and his receivers averaged less separation (at the time of the pass) than Mahomes'. Again, some fans are in love with totals and think those numbers trump efficiency. But when you look at this year's playoff games, usually the better totals are on the losing end of games because teams playing from behind will pass more. Even though here we're talking about passing, Buddy Ryan said it best when he said anybody could get 1000 yards on 1000 carries.
February 1Feb 1 On 1/30/2025 at 10:34 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Yeah I think it’s fair to say Jalen doesn’t elevate the talent around him. Hopefully though he will take deals that allows us to surround him with talent. He doesn't? Ask Barkley about that. I really dislike that statement. He just led us to his second SB and people like you still don't get it. Man, I like you. But can you for once open your eyes and form an original opinion instead of parroting bad takes of other people?
February 1Feb 1 42 minutes ago, Infam said: He doesn't? Ask Barkley about that. I really dislike that statement. He just led us to his second SB and people like you still don't get it. Man, I like you. But can you for once open your eyes and form an original opinion instead of parroting bad takes of other people? Dude what? So wait… You are telling me Jalen elevated the talent around him? With the best OL in the NFL? With a top 5 WR and I mean you can argue Smith has the ability to be what top 10-15? And a RB who has had an historic year. Dude say what you want but the passing game didn’t click enough this year. Does it matter? No because we’ve won but let’s not pretend Hurts elevates those around him. And guess what? That’s fine! Because we have the talent around him! People like me? I’ve been one of his biggest defenders!
February 1Feb 1 On 1/27/2025 at 9:40 PM, NOTW said: You know what some will say. "It takes the whole TEAM to win." "The defense and Barkley won the game despite Hurts." Does it not take the whole team? The Bills played KC pretty tough and Allen doesn't have a Brown...or a Smith...or a Goedert...or a Barkley (Cook is still a solid/good back)...or a top 3 OL...or the number 1 defense in the league.
February 1Feb 1 I don't understand why it took him until the NFCCG to throw the ball away but I'm thrilled He's definitely staying with us for another contract
February 2Feb 2 4 Years Starting, 4 straight Playoff Berths, 5 Playoff wins, two 14 Win Seasons, 2 Division Titles. 2 NFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Appearances. Sorry but not only was Jalen worth the money (And then some) but I expect Jalen to get another contract extension and lead us to even more Super Bowls. Jalen will be our QB through the early 2030's and has a strong chance to be here even longer than Mcnabb. He's done this and he's only 26. It's wild.
February 3Feb 3 On 2/1/2025 at 5:15 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Dude what? So wait… You are telling me Jalen elevated the talent around him? With the best OL in the NFL? With a top 5 WR and I mean you can argue Smith has the ability to be what top 10-15? And a RB who has had an historic year. Dude say what you want but the passing game didn’t click enough this year. Does it matter? No because we’ve won but let’s not pretend Hurts elevates those around him. And guess what? That’s fine! Because we have the talent around him! People like me? I’ve been one of his biggest defenders! They weren’t the best oline when he was the starter. Instant run threat at qb, got rid of the ball quickly or ran when ish went left…alleviating pressure off the oline. there was no top 10 let alone top 5 wr on The Eagles until that/those wr played with Hurts. AJ was ranked #14th in Tennessee RB doesn’t check into plays ,..and also works in conjunction and benefits from the same relationship between the ol and mobile qb. too say Hurts HASNT ellevated talent around him is asinine. It shows someone can’t even understand basic concepts. Wilson can still be great, but he dropped a TD in the first Rams game…he’s not gonna get many opportunities as is…was it Hurts fault he dropped that pass? What about Jalen Reagor…was Hurts supposed to "make him better”? How about Quez? Get outta here… ..on a more positive note…they all compliment each other which is why, I’m sure, that’s why they chose to assemble…GO BIRDS.
February 3Feb 3 2 hours ago, D.WATSfromda757 said: They weren’t the best oline when he was the starter. Instant run threat at qb, got rid of the ball quickly or ran when ish went left…alleviating pressure off the oline. there was no top 10 let alone top 5 wr on The Eagles until that/those wr played with Hurts. AJ was ranked #14th in Tennessee RB doesn’t check into plays ,..and also works in conjunction and benefits from the same relationship between the ol and mobile qb. too say Hurts HASNT ellevated talent around him is asinine. It shows someone can’t even understand basic concepts. Wilson can still be great, but he dropped a TD in the first Rams game…he’s not gonna get many opportunities as is…was it Hurts fault he dropped that pass? What about Jalen Reagor…was Hurts supposed to "make him better”? How about Quez? Get outta here… ..on a more positive note…they all compliment each other which is why, I’m sure, that’s why they chose to assemble…GO BIRDS. I’m not even sure what your point is? They weren’t the best OL when Hurts became starter I agree. That’s why the team was a slightly above average team who finished 9-8 and were one and done in the play offs. AJ came in year 2 of Hurts and things then started to take off. Hurts had his best year. Hurts plays with exceptionally talented players and do you know what? That’s okay. Why? Because you can, and we do, win with Hurts as our QB. But to say he elevates those around him is just wrong. Wilson can still be great? What planet are you on? If he develops in to a solid #3 that would be great given where he was drafted.
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