February 4Feb 4 1 hour ago, NOTW said: Barkley is an elite RB and elevated our running game The O line is elite and has always paved the way for a strong running game Our O line + Barkley is unstoppable Hurts' running ability contributes to the run game success and another element defenses have to account for Several examples in recent weeks confirmed by analysts and press conferences where Hurts read the defense and changed the play call to set up a successful Barkley run. That isn't most times, and doesn't take away from Barkley at all. First three points have nothing to do with Hurts. He does add a dimension to the running game, but the running game has still been successful without him. Lots of QBs that aren't just starting out can change plays at the line. When you have an elite line and back (as you've pointed out) those checks will be that much better. 11 minutes ago, NOTW said: How about you take a joke? I even used the I know, but I'm legitimately curious. The bottom line is, Hurts is an above average player on an unbelievably stacked roster on both sides of the ball. He usually steps up in the clutch, but also makes boneheaded plays. We could do better, but we could also do a lot worse. This notion that he elevates those around him though, I don't agree with. Take a look at someone like Bo Nix, who looked damn good with Cortland Sutton, Vele and Mims. The running game and line are no where near as good. They had a good defense. Hurts isn't winning 14 games with that roster. He didn't have Brown/Smith against the Bucs this season and looked like he didn't belong on the field. He's in the perfect spot for him. A loaded roster.
February 4Feb 4 Hurts isnt a great qb in most cities, but with this roster and his skill set, he is great for what we are doing. He truly makes the game 11v11. He isn't a great passer by many metrics, but the receiving threats don't allow the defenses to go 1v1. If he sucks on Sunday, we can grab the pitchforks and torches. As I stand today...until the league stops it, we need to keep it going.
February 4Feb 4 40 minutes ago, Swoop said: First three points have nothing to do with Hurts. He does add a dimension to the running game, but the running game has still been successful without him. Lots of QBs that aren't just starting out can change plays at the line. When you have an elite line and back (as you've pointed out) those checks will be that much better. I posted the points about Barkley and the O line because I scrolled the discussion happening. Separate things can all be true. Those points were actually meant to agree with you or others, that the run game would be successful without Hurts. It goes both ways: complimenting the run game doesn't need to take away from Hurts, and complimenting Hurts' contribution to the run game doesn't need to take away from the O line and Barkley. We're blessed to have a great run game. Quote I know, but I'm legitimately curious. The bottom line is, Hurts is an above average player on an unbelievably stacked roster on both sides of the ball. He usually steps up in the clutch, but also makes boneheaded plays. We could do better, but we could also do a lot worse. This notion that he elevates those around him though, I don't agree with. Take a look at someone like Bo Nix, who looked damn good with Cortland Sutton, Vele and Mims. The running game and line are no where near as good. They had a good defense. Hurts isn't winning 14 games with that roster. He didn't have Brown/Smith against the Bucs this season and looked like he didn't belong on the field. He's in the perfect spot for him. A loaded roster. I agree on the first parts. See my post above where I said Hurts doesn't elevate players because of his passing, but intangibles in leadership. I have said many, many times throughout this year that I want to see more out of the passing game, and that there are other QBs in the league that would perform better as a passer with this roster. He has stepped up at times, and more recently. We'd like to see it more often. As it is, they won 14 games and are in the Super Bowl. So what's the point in arguing the same exact points we've argued all year and bringing negativity? Most people thought he played really well in the NFCCG and assert that if he plays like that they have a great shot. Hurts is the QB, it's Super Bowl week. Other QBs that "elevate" their teams are sitting at home watching. He's got to perform in the Super Bowl, we want to see the team get that win. LFG.
February 4Feb 4 On 2/3/2025 at 2:21 AM, D.WATSfromda757 said: They weren’t the best oline when he was the starter. Instant run threat at qb, got rid of the ball quickly or ran when ish went left…alleviating pressure off the oline. there was no top 10 let alone top 5 wr on The Eagles until that/those wr played with Hurts. AJ was ranked #14th in Tennessee RB doesn’t check into plays ,..and also works in conjunction and benefits from the same relationship between the ol and mobile qb. too say Hurts HASNT ellevated talent around him is asinine. It shows someone can’t even understand basic concepts. Wilson can still be great, but he dropped a TD in the first Rams game…he’s not gonna get many opportunities as is…was it Hurts fault he dropped that pass? What about Jalen Reagor…was Hurts supposed to "make him better”? How about Quez? Get outta here… ..on a more positive note…they all compliment each other which is why, I’m sure, that’s why they chose to assemble…GO BIRDS. Yes they were
February 4Feb 4 27 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Yes they were Nah, they weren't. They dropped 41 on Dallas with Kenny Two Ribs and a third stringer. Not good enough.
February 5Feb 5 I for one hope Hurts gets paid again after this season so he can continue being done even more.
February 5Feb 5 1 hour ago, MR-CYN said: I for one hope Hurts gets paid again after this season so he can continue being done even more.
February 6Feb 6 On 2/4/2025 at 4:27 PM, Mike030270 said: Yes they were So why did Wentz get sacked 50 times? Dan Orlosky didn’t seem to think they were the best when his friend Wentz was starting.
February 6Feb 6 Hurts gets dinged for having a lot of talent around him… And that’s not exactly fair. But it is also absolutely true that he is playing with more talent (certainly on offense) than Mahomes, Allen, Jackson and possibly Burrows (our OL is certainly superior even though I know it’s got some weapons to throw to). Hurts has a lot of talent around him and he uses that to get results. It isn’t always very pretty but he and this team win a lot of games. And he deserves a lot of credit for that because I do think as a leader he drives this team forwards.
February 6Feb 6 @uncphillyfan who knew your rage post would amass 67 pages and get us to a Super Bowl? Can you please do another one this offseason if we end up winning this thing?
February 6Feb 6 20 minutes ago, VeeMak said: @uncphillyfan who knew your rage post would amass 67 pages and get us to a Super Bowl? Can you please do another one this offseason if we end up winning this thing? Also impressive that a 2 year old thread is still on the first page lol
February 6Feb 6 7 hours ago, D.WATSfromda757 said: So why did Wentz get sacked 50 times? Dan Orlosky didn’t seem to think they were the best when his friend Wentz was starting. You mean in 2020 when Dillard and Brooks missed the entire season? When Lane and Seumalo missed huge chunks of time? When we had 14 different OL combinations because of all of the injuries? None of that has to do with this season, of course. 2/10 troll job
February 6Feb 6 58 minutes ago, Swoop said: You mean in 2020 when Dillard and Brooks missed the entire season? When Lane and Seumalo missed huge chunks of time? When we had 14 different OL combinations because of all of the injuries? None of that has to do with this season, of course. 2/10 troll job 2020 offensive line snap count leaders Kelce Nate Herbig Matt Pryor Mailata Seumalo While looking this up, 2020 WR snap count leaders Greg Ward Travis Fulgham Jalen Reagor John Hightower
February 6Feb 6 Lurie to the media at the SB, regarding the RB position: We "always" thought to pair a RB with a triple threat QB. There you go, Lurie wants a QB who can run.
February 6Feb 6 I would argue that this level of inconsistency for an entire amateur and professional career must be hard to overcome, but yet this dude has been a Heisman contender, MVP contender, gone to the National Championship, and the SB twice and is still only 26.
February 6Feb 6 11 hours ago, D.WATSfromda757 said: So why did Wentz get sacked 50 times? Dan Orlosky didn’t seem to think they were the best when his friend Wentz was starting. @Swoop corrected you before I could but who the hell cares what Dan Orlosky thinks??
February 7Feb 7 10 hours ago, NOTW said: Lurie to the media at the SB, regarding the RB position: We "always" thought to pair a RB with a triple threat QB. There you go, Lurie wants a QB who can run. What is a "triple threat QB?"
February 7Feb 7 1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said: That was actually the first thing that popped in my mind when I read "triple threat QB."
February 7Feb 7 Just now, NOTW said: Passing Running Winning Mahomes is a quadruple threat then: Passing Running Winning Whining
February 7Feb 7 6 hours ago, brkmsn said: Mahomes is a quadruple threat then: Passing Running Winning Whining Quintet then… 5. Diving
February 8Feb 8 On 2/6/2025 at 8:36 AM, Swoop said: You mean in 2020 when Dillard and Brooks missed the entire season? When Lane and Seumalo missed huge chunks of time? When we had 14 different OL combinations because of all of the injuries? None of that has to do with this season, of course. 2/10 troll job 🤔🥱so…that’s the excuse? Pay attention numbskull…you got some nerve calling someone a troll. Foh. On 2/6/2025 at 12:03 PM, Mike030270 said: @Swoop corrected you before I could but who the hell cares what Dan Orlosky thinks?? No the ef he didn’t. Dan Orlosky is the consummate Wentz loyalist that made every excuse imaginable on national tv for two years straight…one of which was disparaging the Oline…MANY others did as well. They weren’t considered "the best OL” then…for WHATEVER reason…why would they be in 2021 when Hurts was the official starter? The same OLine that Hurts got his first start as a rookie with against the #1 defense at the time that had 50 straight games without allowing a 100 yard rusher. The Eagles put up 40-23 and both Miles and rookie Hurts ended up with 100 yards. Corrected me?!! Foh. edit. First start ever as rookie it was 24-21 Eagles. First year starter 40-29 Eagles.
February 8Feb 8 I find it strange how the same people who claim that Hurts is only good because he is surrounded by elite talent are the first ones who are also claiming that the only reason Wentz struggled was because the team around him wasn't very good. For the kids at home, this is what we call a double standard.
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