November 16, 20231 yr Just now, Toastrel said: People used to be grateful I wasn't Dutch and dipping them in mayo. bloody dutch they're the germans of europe
November 16, 20231 yr 47 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Look another clueless old washed up liberal who has no idea what he's talking about. Shocker These really are the best digs you can manage, aren't they? Damn, that is sad, and a statement on education in this country. All knowing, all powerful, who set the Universe in motion with a Word, a God with a plan, that goes exactly as he has laid it out. We are free to choose our path, but it can only be as He intended. Thus it is written.
November 16, 20231 yr 37 minutes ago, Toastrel said: These really are the best digs you can manage, aren't they? Damn, that is sad, and a statement on education in this country. All knowing, all powerful, who set the Universe in motion with a Word, a God with a plan, that goes exactly as he has laid it out. We are free to choose our path, but it can only be as He intended. Thus it is written. It's not a dig just an accurate assessment of your nonsensical ramblings.
November 16, 20231 yr 58 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I know more about what’s in the Bible now than I did when I was a Christian. It was my quest to be a better Christian, by reading it and learning about its history, that lead me to the conclusion that it is all BS. Lol TNT: "the bible is all BS" TNT 5 min ago: "You have to be peace to be peace, and peace and stuff -Long Duck Dong"
November 17, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said: You Calabrese need to lay offa the grappa if you know what I mean fyp
November 17, 20231 yr i love watching mike get defensive about the bible. much, much more please. it's friday, you all owe me as much.
November 17, 20231 yr 14 hours ago, Mike31mt said: nonsensical ramblings. Oh, you HAVE read the bible.
November 17, 20231 yr "Most televangelists, popular Christian preacher icons, and heads of those corporations that we call megachurches share an unreflective modern view of Jesus--that he translates easily and almost automatically into a modern idiom. The fact is, however, that Jesus was not a person of the twenty-first century who spoke the language of contemporary Christian America (or England or Germany or anywhere else). Jesus was inescapably and ineluctably a Jew living in first-century Palestine. He was not like us, and if we make him like us we transform the historical Jesus into a creature that we have invented for ourselves and for our own purposes. Jesus would not recognize himself in the preaching of most of his followers today. He knew nothing of our world. He was not a capitalist. He did not believe in free enterprise. He did not support the acquisition of wealth or the good things in life. He did not believe in massive education. He had never heard of democracy. He had nothing to do with going to church on Sunday. He knew nothing of social security, food stamps, welfare, American exceptionalism, unemployment numbers, or immigration. He had no views on tax reform, health care (apart from wanting to heal leprosy), or the welfare state. So far as we know, he expressed no opinion on the ethical issues that plague us today: abortion and reproductive rights, gay marriage, euthanasia, or bombing Iraq. His world was not ours, his concerns were not ours, and--most striking of all--his beliefs were not ours. Jesus was a first-century Jew, and when we try to make him into a twenty-first century American we distort everything he was and everything he stood for.” Bart D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth
November 17, 20231 yr "Whoever wrote the Gospel of John (we’ll continue to call him John, though we don’t know who he really was) must have been a Christian living sixty years or so after Jesus, in a different part of the world, in a different cultural context, speaking a different language—Greek rather than Aramaic—and with a completely different level of education .. The author of John is speaking for himself and he is speaking for Jesus. These are not Jesus’s words; they are John’s words placed on Jesus’s lips.” Bart D. Ehrman, How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee
November 17, 20231 yr "Why would God have inspired the words of the Bible if he chose not to preserve these words for posterity? Put differently, what should make me think he had inspired the words in the first place if I knew for certain (as I did) that he had not preserved them? This became a major problem for me in trying to figure out which Bible I thought was inspired. Another big problem is one that I don’t deal with in Misquoting Jesus. If God inspired certain books in the decades after Jesus died, how do I know that the later church fathers chose the right books to be included in the Bible? I could accept it on faith—surely God would not allow noninspired books in the canon of Scripture. But as I engaged in more historical study of the early Christian movement, I began to realize that there were lots of Christians in lots of places who fully believed that other books were to be accepted as Scripture; conversely, some of the books that eventually made it into the canon were rejected by church leaders in different parts of the church, sometimes for centuries. In some parts of the church, the Apocalypse of John (the book of Revelation) was flat out rejected as containing false teaching, whereas the Apocalypse of Peter, which eventually did not make it in, was accepted. There were some Christians who accepted the Gospel of Peter and some who rejected the Gospel of John. There were some Christians who accepted a truncated version of the Gospel of Luke (without its first two chapters), and others who accepted the now noncanonical Gospel of Thomas. Some Christians rejected the three Pastoral Epistles of 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus, which eventually made it in, and others accepted the Epistle of Barnabas, which did not. If God was making sure that his church would have the inspired books of Scripture, and only those books, why were there such heated debates and disagreements that took place over three hundred years? Why didn’t God just make sure that these debates lasted weeks, with assured results, rather than centuries?” Bart D. Ehrman, Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (and Why We Don't Know About Them)
November 17, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: "Most televangelists, popular Christian preacher icons, and heads of those corporations that we call megachurches share an unreflective modern view of Jesus--that he translates easily and almost automatically into a modern idiom. The fact is, however, that Jesus was not a person of the twenty-first century who spoke the language of contemporary Christian America (or England or Germany or anywhere else). Jesus was inescapably and ineluctably a Jew living in first-century Palestine. He was not like us, and if we make him like us we transform the historical Jesus into a creature that we have invented for ourselves and for our own purposes. Jesus would not recognize himself in the preaching of most of his followers today. He knew nothing of our world. He was not a capitalist. He did not believe in free enterprise. He did not support the acquisition of wealth or the good things in life. He did not believe in massive education. He had never heard of democracy. He had nothing to do with going to church on Sunday. He knew nothing of social security, food stamps, welfare, American exceptionalism, unemployment numbers, or immigration. He had no views on tax reform, health care (apart from wanting to heal leprosy), or the welfare state. So far as we know, he expressed no opinion on the ethical issues that plague us today: abortion and reproductive rights, gay marriage, euthanasia, or bombing Iraq. His world was not ours, his concerns were not ours, and--most striking of all--his beliefs were not ours. Jesus was a first-century Jew, and when we try to make him into a twenty-first century American we distort everything he was and everything he stood for.” Bart D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth
November 17, 20231 yr Stay strong and righteous ChristianEagle. The demons here will fight your message with all of the fire and brimstone they can muster.
November 17, 20231 yr 11 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Stay strong and righteous ChristianEagle. The demons here will fight your message with all of the fire and brimstone they can muster. And now we know whose clone this is.
November 17, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: And now we know whose clone this is. I tried to make a clone once. The mods never even approved the account.
November 17, 20231 yr i found @Christian Eagle's facebook account. here is his cover photo. man, you really, really, really want jesus to do some saving.
November 17, 20231 yr 33 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Stay strong and righteous ChristianEagle. The demons here will fight your message with all of the fire and brimstone they can muster. He threatened to torture me
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November 17, 20231 yr 6 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said: i love watching mike get defensive about the bible. much, much more please. it's friday, you all owe me as much. I love to hear you guys cobble together cryfests about it like 15 year olds too "It's not accurate history!!!" No ish, Sherlock. You guys are clever!
November 17, 20231 yr 6 hours ago, Toastrel said: Oh, you HAVE read the bible. It's a better read than your Bible, the Communist Manifesto.
November 17, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: "Whoever wrote the Gospel of John (we’ll continue to call him John, though we don’t know who he really was) must have been a Christian living sixty years or so after Jesus, in a different part of the world, in a different cultural context, speaking a different language—Greek rather than Aramaic—and with a completely different level of education .. The author of John is speaking for himself and he is speaking for Jesus. These are not Jesus’s words; they are John’s words placed on Jesus’s lips.” Bart D. Ehrman, How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee There were at least two authors of the Gospel of John due to the different writing styles, and it was probably AD 80-90. Again, tell us something we don't know, Confucius
November 17, 20231 yr Author 1 hour ago, The_Omega said: Stay strong and righteous ChristianEagle. The demons here will fight your message with all of the fire and brimstone they can muster. They are a dime a dozen. The darkness of the demons that compel them will never overcome the light of Christ that dwells within me. I will continue to spread the good news of Jesus here and elsewhere. While they reject Jesus's message, it's quite possible that it resonates with others in this community. Thanks for the support!
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