June 5, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Yes humans should do everything that animals do. Anything an animal does is natural for a human to do. Big brain It's not my argument. That bit of wisdom comes from your folks.
June 5, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: It's not my argument. That bit of wisdom comes from your folks. Imagine how stupid and uneducated one has to be to torture the definition of the word enough to think a vasectomy is natural, but homosexuality isn't.
June 5, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Imagine how stupid and uneducated one has to be to torture the definition of the word enough to think a vasectomy is natural, but homosexuality isn't.
June 5, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: It's not my argument. That bit of wisdom comes from your folks. You literally just made that argument. Homosexuality is unnatural because it cannot lead to procreation.
June 5, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I've already said that until you get it reversed, you're no more a true "Catholic" than I am. Welcome to the club, fellow fake Catholic! We go to church on Christmas and sometimes Easter, and we don't really adhere to the "no eating before communion" rule either (oh and we can touch the Eucharist with our hands. Ain't it cool?) You literally deny Catholic doctrine. Its unimaginably stupid to say you're as Catholic as I am, by definition you are not because you freely and openly admit it. Stop lying to yourself. We're all sinners but only one of us denies the words of Jesus and the teachings of the church we claim to belong to.
June 5, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Imagine how stupid and uneducated one has to be to torture the definition of the word enough to think a vasectomy is natural, but homosexuality isn't. I never said it wasn't. Like a child, you can never have a discussion without putting words in people's mouths and deflecting.
June 5, 20241 yr 50 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: just a reminder, homosexuality is not a sin, or at least not in the top 17. Wrong. Go start your own church if you want to make things up.
June 5, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: You literally just made that argument. Homosexuality is unnatural because it cannot lead to procreation. Cool, so whacking off is unnatural too then? What about urinating, is that unnatural because it also can't lead to procreation? What about vasectomies, Michael? Can they lead to procreation?
June 5, 20241 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: You literally just made that argument. Homosexuality is unnatural because it cannot lead to procreation. Breathe dude. Breathe. That's not even close to what I said. I'll type slowly to see if you come close to understanding: We were dissing on common talking points the churches make against homosexuality. I mentioned that religious persons often claim homosexuality doesn't happen in nature, so it is therefore unnatural. That's obviously not true.
June 5, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: I never said it wasn't. Like a child, you can never have a discussion without putting words in people's mouths and deflecting. So we agree then, you're sinning just as much, if not more, than a gay man is for every single day you refuse to reverse your vasectomy.
June 5, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: You literally deny Catholic doctrine. Its unimaginably stupid to say you're as Catholic as I am, by definition you are not because you freely and openly admit it. Stop lying to yourself. We're all sinners but only one of us denies the words of Jesus and the teachings of the church we claim to belong to. So did you when you got your vasctomy.
June 5, 20241 yr Catholicism beings to make sense once you realize it is run by celibate (supposedly) men living in close quarters.
June 5, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: Catholicism beings to make sense once you realize it is run by celibate (supposedly) men living in close quarters. money ****, boy buggery loving alcoholics fyp
June 5, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Cool, so whacking off is unnatural too then? What about urinating, is that unnatural because it also can't lead to procreation? What about vasectomies, Michael? Can they lead to procreation? Unhinged Yes urinating is unnatural, WGB, good argument.
June 5, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Breathe dude. Breathe. That's not even close to what I said. I'll type slowly to see if you come close to understanding: We were dissing on common talking points the churches make against homosexuality. I mentioned that religious persons often claim homosexuality doesn't happen in nature, so it is therefore unnatural. That's obviously not true. And I'm saying it is unnatural for humans to engage in homosexuality. We're not like all other animals. There are a lot of things animals do that we don't and shouldnt do. Lots of animals abandon their offspring after birth and choose only one to survive. Would it be "natural" for humans to do that? No, because humans have their own set of "natural" and "unnatural" behaviors.
June 5, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: So we agree then, you're sinning just as much, if not more, than a gay man is for every single day you refuse to reverse your vasectomy. What you hate to see is a phony Catholic engage in ridiculous comparisons like this all because he's too triggered to acknowledge that homosexuality is a sin. Sorry you hate your own religion.
June 5, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: So did you when you got your vasctomy. Incorrect
June 5, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, toolg said: Catholicism beings to make sense once you realize it is run by celibate (supposedly) men living in close quarters. Jesus was a celibate man living with others, so good point as usual
June 5, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: And I'm saying it is unnatural for humans to engage in homosexuality. We're not like all other animals. There are a lot of things animals do that we don't and shouldnt do. Lots of animals abandon their offspring after birth and choose only one to survive. Would it be "natural" for humans to do that? No, because humans have their own set of "natural" and "unnatural" behaviors. Sweet christmas cookies, look I don't think humans should take their cues from animals either. The argument is not only false, its silly.
June 5, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Unhinged Yes urinating is unnatural, WGB, good argument. Thanks Mike. To be honest, it's not that hard to use your own logic against you and expose you as a hypocrite when most residents of WV have the intellect of a five year old like you. 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: What you hate to see is a phony Catholic engage in ridiculous comparisons like this all because he's too triggered to acknowledge that homosexuality is a sin. Sorry you hate your own religion. What you hate to see is a phony Catholic engage in ridiculous comparisons like this all because he's too triggered to acknowledge that he is willingly committing a sin for every day he continues to live without reversal of his vasectomy. Sorry you hate your own religion. 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Incorrect You definitely did though.
June 5, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Jesus was a celibate man living with others, so good point as usual Right. So I figure you have to look at it in the proper context: Men devoting their entire life to religion, that's one thing. Telling you how to treat your partner, use birth control.... I am sorry. I am not taking relationship advice from a bunch of unmarried guys living with other men.
June 5, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, toolg said: Right. So I figure you have to look at it in the proper context: Men devoting their entire life to religion, that's one thing. Telling you how to treat your partner, use birth control.... I am sorry. I am not taking relationship advice from a bunch of unmarried guys living with other men. Not to say none of them carry wisdom, the priest who spoke at my cousin's wedding gave the most intelligent, passionate, grounded and uplifting speech about love I have ever heard. Put a friggin tear in my eye. There are a few out there who are genuine spiritual leaders of their communities, but 99% of the ones I've heard are morons looking for money in the name of the magic book.
June 5, 20241 yr 55 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: I never said it wasn't. Like a child, you can never have a discussion without putting words in people's mouths and deflecting. This is actually true, you knew you were sinning but did it anyway, as convenience always wins out over conviction with you.
June 5, 20241 yr "CONVICTION VS. CONVENIENCE september 17, 2008 by brian berry 2 comments Today I felt like God gave me those two words to ponder. It came in a question: "Which do you want to live by: convenience or conviction?” As I stewed on this, here’s what’s been kicking around in my head in one way or another. Convenience is comfortable and easy. Conviction is risky and difficult. Convenience enables one’s desires. Conviction shapes one’s behavior. Convenience is common. Conviction is rare. Convenience loves what I’ve always done. Conviction takes the road less traveled, regardless of the cost. Convenience is recycling when there’s a drop spot in the hall. Conviction causes you to carry the empty bottle all the way home if need be. Convenience prays with my family at church. Conviction prays when no one is looking. Convenience is saying "I’m a christian.” Conviction is living like Jesus. Convenience says helping others is important. Conviction says talk is cheap. Convenience eats whatever, whenever food is around. Conviction chooses what to eat and when. Convenience obeys my desires. Conviction obeys my soul. Convenience is casual. Conviction is powerful. Convenience causes one to please people. Conviction causes one to lead people. Convenience gives when money is plentiful. Conviction gives out of principle. Convenience empowers laziness. Conviction fuels self-discipline. "
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