Maybe they like his game plan, but his play calling not so much. 

This has to be Lurie's doing, I'm certain. Think he has a decent track record going against the grain with unusual decisions. The coaching picks are on him alone.

Matt Patricia though? Would've rather have Schwarz back.. Anyways, I'll give him a chance.

It is only his first game as DC so let's not be too critical, but I expect to see a HUGE improvement in this game's defense over the last two weeks and really all season long. Which is a HUGE statement considering the best cornerback, SLAY will not be playing in this game. 

I think Ringo will do a good job, not nearly as good as slay but hopefully good enough not to give up big deep plays.

 

 

5 hours ago, LacesOut said:

Well, we all know that this is NOT happening. I expect their WRs to eat our Secondary all game long. Oh well.

The game haven't started yet so we'll see. 

8 hours ago, Mat said:

We won't really know until we see the team play this weekend. If he looks completely checked out in the box then they are probably right, but if it looks like he is engaged and like he is communicating with the coaches on the side line than it is going to benefit the team. They will have cameras on him for sure throughout the game 

Why would you keep a disgruntled employee (because of a demotion) around in any role if you intend to fire him later?

If they wanted to fire him, they would have.

53 minutes ago, Infam said:

Maybe they like his game plan, but his play calling not so much. 

This has to be Lurie's doing, I'm certain. Think he has a decent track record going against the grain with unusual decisions. The coaching picks are on him alone.

Matt Patricia though? Would've rather have Schwarz back.. Anyways, I'll give him a chance.

Schwartz is a little busy in Cleveland. Hopefully this change spurs some energy in our D. 

10 minutes ago, MidMoFo said:

Why would you keep a disgruntled employee (because of a demotion) around in any role if you intend to fire him later?

If they wanted to fire him, they would have.

There was one report that they didn't want to fire him because of his contract and want to force him to quit. That also sounds ridiculous 

Either DC gets to coach an Eagles secondary apart from Slay & Bradberry made up of: 

• Ringo: a 4th round rookie CB in his first start
• Ricks: an undrafted free agent rookie CB
• Jobe: An undrafted 2nd year CB
• Roby: free agent castoff playing on his 4th team
• Scott: corner traded away from Jags for a 6th round pick
• Blankenship: An undrafted 2nd year safety
• Brown: a 3rd round rookie safety 
• Byard: veteran safety regressed after injury & traded away from a 5 win team last in their division 

5 hours ago, Rey said:

If you watch the All-22 film you see Backs and receivers open short, but Hurts' eyes are usually on the deeper patterns. That's on both Jalen and the coaches who are not working on Jalen getting better at taking what the Defenses are giving him short instead of forcing the ball downfield or hoping something opens up past the sticks. Jalen has the ability to improve on this, but it takes time to change his game from what comes naturally to him which is using his legs to buy time if Read 1 & 2 are well covered.

Have to know what the progressions are to determine who's at fault there honestly. If he's reading his progressions properly and all the first reads are long developing ones, then that's kind of the same problem. Sometimes the goal SHOULD be to move the ball 5 yards, rather than 20.

2 hours ago, Infam said:

Maybe they like his game plan, but his play calling not so much. 

This has to be Lurie's doing, I'm certain. Think he has a decent track record going against the grain with unusual decisions. The coaching picks are on him alone.

Matt Patricia though? Would've rather have Schwarz back.. Anyways, I'll give him a chance.

It's not even that unusual. Or maybe it is but it's certainly not the first. Dallas did the same thing just a few years ago. However it got less attention because it didn't happen in a time that suggested dire straights. Kris Richard called plays if you remember.

What a leadership conundrum we have the day after. To paraphrase an old football proverb, "When you have two defensive coordinators, you don't have one." To think that Patricia was going to scheme away the lack of talent in the defensive backfield was hubris. Now what? You unnecessarily humiliated Desai on national TV, and then meltdown down to a 2nd string QB allowing him to drive 92 yards. Now you have two DC's with no credibility. 

Congrats on the unforced error. 

In terms of point totals they looked better, but when they ultimately needed to get a stop they folded like a cheap suit. In my opinion Patricia is trash and was never going to be the answer. I know it has been 1 week, but I saw enough of his trash coaching with the Lions and have seen how all the Pats coaches have traditionally failed outside of New England

I see why they made the move, they have been horrible in a lot of statistical categories, it was getting progressively worse and you need to hold up against these teams to compete in the playoffs. You have a guy that has a track record as a coordinator sitting there and want to get a spark. Holding the Seahawks to 20 points should have been enough to win, but when you realise it was Drew Lock completing 67% of his passes and leading a game winning drive it's really not good enough in that situation. 

The offensive struggles are a different kettle of fish, I see enough at times to think the offense will get back on track and then there are some bonehead turnovers like last night.

We don't know how long this change may have been brewing, or if it was sudden.  Some people think because last Monday Siri in his PC said there would be no coaching changes that it was a change forced on him.  It could have also been not saying it publicly so they could communicate it internally first.

But if it were a recent change, then you can't expect major changes and that much result in a few days and one game.  Down Slay and Cunningham, starting a bunch of guys that are mid round pick rookies, undrafted free agents and washed up guys.  They will likely ride this out the rest of the season to see how Patricia does with preparation and play calling.

If they're happy with him and make him DC next season, they also need to make upgrades to the roster.  

3 hours ago, Mat said:

In terms of point totals they looked better, but when they ultimately needed to get a stop they folded like a cheap suit. In my opinion Patricia is trash and was never going to be the answer. I know it has been 1 week, but I saw enough of his trash coaching with the Lions and have seen how all the Pats coaches have traditionally failed outside of New England

I see why they made the move, they have been horrible in a lot of statistical categories, it was getting progressively worse and you need to hold up against these teams to compete in the playoffs. You have a guy that has a track record as a coordinator sitting there and want to get a spark. Holding the Seahawks to 20 points should have been enough to win, but when you realise it was Drew Lock completing 67% of his passes and leading a game winning drive it's really not good enough in that situation. 

The offensive struggles are a different kettle of fish, I see enough at times to think the offense will get back on track and then there are some bonehead turnovers like last night.

The defense looked better but it was against Drew Lock so it’s hard to tell. Bradberry basically lost the game by getting beat on back to back big plays on the final drive. He absolutely sucks and shouldn’t be on the field. 

Drew Lock is a professional just like Brock Purdy. He probably fits Seattle better than Geno. People need to stop falling for hyped up names, because we have hyped up names on this team that some say don’t live up to it.

Now. I’m gonna give Patricia waaaaay more leeway because I have seen improvements on the defense already. You all may hate the loss and all that but I accredit that mainly to the offense. The defense last night had people in MUCH better positions to make plays or not vs Desai having people so out of position they weren’t even in screenshots on the tv screen. Last night you could see the talent or lack of talent, but the players didn’t look lost. Bradberry got burnt because he was flat footed and let a wr go past him, don’t know if he thought Reed was coming over, but Reed ain’t fast enough for that, Brown is but maybe Brown isn’t experienced enough or doesn’t have "seniority” over Reed, in that situation. Leonard, does not appear to be the answer, at least for the type of physical teams of the NFC. Brown needs more discipline in tackling, he’s like the Tasmanian devil out there but obviously can’t expect a teammate to follow up and finish a tackle for him. Ringo is looking decent…and many of the other younger guys look like they just need more coaching from someone who actually knows what they’re doing..and more reps and weightlifting conditioning. ( didn’t we lose our db coach to the Ravens)? I’m surprised, but then again not too surprised by Negadelphians, that you all saw no difference in even the effort of tackling and rallying. As far as scheming to stop power runs..we might have to get Suh back in here. ..but they didn’t do too bad.

We could’ve done the same to them if we would’ve stuck with what worked…and substituted Gainwell, Penny or Scott with Swift more. Swift is not hitting holes like he was earlier and is not bouncing outside with his speed…seems to want to hide behind and roll up on the backs of the lineman. Yeah, every now and then he’ll bust one open, but to be methodical, pounding the ball and finding the right gaps..Gainwell should see the field more against these physical teams. And for some reason the run plays don’t seem to have much blocking for the runs called for Gainwell…don’t know what that’s about.

I don’t know who is DESIGNING these plays, ESPECIALLY these screens, but whoever it is needs to be relieved of duties. Any time the hated announcers can point out what we see with our own eyes…routes causing to much congestion, to many wr in the same place, guys not moving up the field on scramble drill…very few ingrained outlet routes/ hot routes …that is on whoever is designing and calling that crap… which brings me to. Ego, stubbornness, and hardheadedness. If the head coach and whoever he answers to doesn’t get their heads out of their arses and off their shoulders then this team is not gonna do ish. Fail, fail, fail..don’t care about what success you HAD or how smart you think you are or might have been. The EGOs of the people running this ship and refusing to do what has proven to work will not give this team a good shot at going far. You get enough credit..ef your ego and all this praise..go win the damn game, stop trynna be cute and wow everybody, or stick it to somebody…just go win the mfing game. Smh

….and if this is just the greatest rope a dope in football history. Kudos. 

So can we get Ron Rivera after he gets canned in dc?

Hate to say it but they played better. With a little more support from the offense they win that game easy

The defense actually looked way better.  

Burntberry needs to be benched for Ringo though.

17 hours ago, Swimm said:

The defense actually looked way better.  

Burntberry needs to be benched for Ringo though.

If we didn't still have a 10-4 record, I'd say play all of the kids and we what we've got. Bradberry HAS declined. And it's hard want the trigger pulled on this when probably will end the season with the 2 seed. 

The D looked better, except that last play. BUT... as hard as it is, BOTH coordinators need to be replaced. The OC is toast. We all know it. But they have nobody IN SEASON who can replace him. Look for Frank Reich to be hired in the off season, if he is still available.

The defense looked better considering the sudden change at DC and not having Slay or Cunningham.  That one big play at the end leaves that fresh in our memory but overall they played better.  They had a bunch of mid round pick rookies and undrafted guys and some leftover scraps from other teams out there against very good receivers.  They held Metcalf to 5 catches for 78 yards, could have been a lot worse.  

 

Dunno if it was Matt Patricias call but why the F was Moro Ojomo on the Dline on that last TD pass?

 

The D played better, the Offense stunk. Again. 

They just don't have the players/talent/Coaches/Scheme on the D.

And a Coaching change ain't fixing anything. They are who they are at this point in the season.

D was def better until final drive 

1 hour ago, LacesOut said:

The D played better, the Offense stunk. Again. 

They just don't have the players/talent/Coaches/Scheme on the D.

And a Coaching change ain't fixing anything. They are who they are at this point in the season.

Bradberry was cooked on every pass on the final drive. Just bench him, it'll be fine. I think Desai schemes fine but he has a tough time with calls. This isn't really that big of a problem if handled the way it currently is. It's unorthodox but not really problematic.