5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He needs to go that’s what needs to happen.

It would surprise me if Lurie turned a bit wishy-washy though and fired him after a 6 or 7 game collapse, a season after winning the NFCCG. That's not who Lurie has shown himself to be. 

Could there be really crazy stuff behind the scenes that we don't know about that would make him do it? Sure, so it could happen. But if it's just based off the end of this season's results, I'd be surprised for him to not at least give Sirianni 2024 to right things. 

We are going the Dallas Cowboys route. Same head coach, and new coordinators. What can go wrong? Oh yeah another collapse. What can Sirianni do to pull them out of it? 

31 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

It would surprise me if Lurie turned a bit wishy-washy though and fired him after a 6 or 7 game collapse, a season after winning the NFCCG. That's not who Lurie has shown himself to be. 

Could there be really crazy stuff behind the scenes that we don't know about that would make him do it? Sure, so it could happen. But if it's just based off the end of this season's results, I'd be surprised for him to not at least give Sirianni 2024 to right things. 

And look I don’t disagree with you. If this team finished 11-6 having lost their games throughout the year then that’s different. But the collapse of this team? The way they had no answers? And the way they quit and got embarrassed by an average Tampa team in the play offs? That for me is why Sirianni had to go. This wasn’t just a disappointing season this was a complete embarrassment the way they went.

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And look I don’t disagree with you. If this team finished 11-6 having lost their games throughout the year then that’s different. But the collapse of this team? The way they had no answers? And the way they quit and got embarrassed by an average Tampa team in the play offs? That for me is why Sirianni had to go. This wasn’t just a disappointing season this was a complete embarrassment the way they went.

I get the feeling regardless if Sirianni stays or goes next season will be a down year. By the way we have all witnessed these coordinator changes before and they don’t work out the way they were intended. Doug’s coordinator changes. Remember Andy Reid’s dream team mass changes? It rarely works so it’s likely going to be a down year, but if they bring back Sirianni and eventually fire him (after all he’s kind of a lame duck coach at that point) and wait a year to bring someone new in then you likely have back to back down years. Is Sirianni’s win loss record worth that chance? I say rip the bandaid off now, because next season is likely a down year. We don’t need consecutive down seasons. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

I get the feeling regardless if Sirianni stays or goes next season will be a down year. By the way we have all witnessed these coordinator changes before and they don’t work out the way they were intended. Doug’s coordinator changes. Remember Andy Reid’s dream team mass changes? It rarely works so it’s likely going to be a down year, but if they bring back Sirianni and eventually fire him (after all he’s kind of a lame duck coach at that point) and wait a year to bring someone new in then you likely have back to back down years. Is Sirianni’s win loss record worth that chance? I say rip the bandaid off now, because next season is likely a down year. We don’t need consecutive down seasons. 

I think next year will be a down year but at least if it’s one with new coaches and ideas you can get behind that. With the hope it’ll improve and build from there.

The fact that the Cowboys didn't fire their HC makes it VERY VERY unlikely that the Eagles will fire Siriani, IMHO.

51 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think next year will be a down year but at least if it’s one with new coaches and ideas you can get behind that. With the hope it’ll improve and build from there.

Depends how the draft and FA go. This team won 11 games this year and can still compete and win many games next year. The team is a year removed from making a SB run. That still isn't something out of the realm of possibilities. And Sirianni was at the helm of that run.

19 minutes ago, opa-opa said:

The fact that the Cowboys didn't fire their HC makes it VERY VERY unlikely that the Eagles will fire Siriani, IMHO.

how are we to live without CHAOS!

It seems to me it comes down to how Lurie assess what went wrong and how much of that Siri and Lurie agree on, including how to fix it. There's many issues that need to be fixed and I don't believe Lurie is going to pin every shortcoming on Siri. I believe all Lurie cares about is that him and Siri are on the page as far as what went wrong and the direction they need to go in to fix it. Like Doug's firing, if those opinions differ and one wants to push while the other wants to pull, he's gone. If they align, he stays.

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

We are going the Dallas Cowboys route. Same head coach, and new coordinators. What can go wrong? Oh yeah another collapse. What can Sirianni do to pull them out of it? 

Same thing he did over a 6 week skid....NOTHING 

There is absolutely no reason to bring Shitanni back other than optics and it seems like the only argument to keep him is for continuity and what we've seen throughout the course of the season, Shitanni is trending downwards and is in over his head. 

1 minute ago, Birdman said:

Same thing he did over a 7 week skid....NOTHING 

There is absolutely no reason to bring Shitanni back other than optics and it seems like the only argument to keep him is for continuity...that's it. 

optics can be important for the next coaching search. basically now you are giving the impression that you can make a mistake but you are allowed to correct the mistakes before being let go. 

1 hour ago, Devaster said:

Depends how the draft and FA go. This team won 11 games this year and can still compete and win many games next year. The team is a year removed from making a SB run. That still isn't something out of the realm of possibilities. And Sirianni was at the helm of that run.

He was yes you are right but then this year it all fell apart. The warning signs were there even at 10-1 but nothing changed. And then the collapse happened and it was an historic record breaking collapse. He had no answers and there were no changes.

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He was yes you are right but then this year it all fell apart. The warning signs were there even at 10-1 but nothing changed. And then the collapse happened and it was an historic record breaking collapse. He had no answers and there were no changes.

He had no one on offense to help him keep the team from going off the rails.  And the switch from Desai to Patricia reeked of desperation (some say the instruction to make that move came from above).  IF he remains HC, it is going to be interesting to see who is hired to fill those spots assuming both coordinators are replaced (and what other coaching changes are made) and how the team responds and ultimately fares in 2024.  If we see more of the same (as what we saw the last 7 weeks) even with new coordinators in place then you can bet we're looking for a new HC a year from now (again, assuming we aren't doing so in the very near future, which I don't think it is a completely safe assumption).  

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I get the feeling regardless if Sirianni stays or goes next season will be a down year. By the way we have all witnessed these coordinator changes before and they don’t work out the way they were intended. Doug’s coordinator changes. Remember Andy Reid’s dream team mass changes? It rarely works so it’s likely going to be a down year, but if they bring back Sirianni and eventually fire him (after all he’s kind of a lame duck coach at that point) and wait a year to bring someone new in then you likely have back to back down years. Is Sirianni’s win loss record worth that chance? I say rip the bandaid off now, because next season is likely a down year. We don’t need consecutive down seasons. 

It could go bad, or we could bounce back. No one expected this team to make the SB last season when it started, so I don't get the super negative outlook.  Firing Siranni now would just set us back even further.  people need to relax and hope for a good draft and FA signings.

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

This wasn’t just a disappointing season this was a complete embarrassment the way they went.

I understand, and if he's to be fired, I can go with it. But I've lived through embarrassing collapses before. 1994 comes to mind. Went from 7-2 to finish out the season at 7-9. Of course, Kotite was fired and Rhodes hired for 1995, but Kotite hadn't just won the NFCCG the year before. His only real success at that point was winning the 1992 Wildcard game vs. the Saints (then losing the Divisional Round to Dallass). 

17 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

1994 comes to mind. Went from 7-2 to finish out the season at 7-9.

Since I referenced it:

I really hate the thought of wasting another year of our offensive talent's prime.  As others have said, how likely is it that 1 or 2 new coordinators will "fix" things for next season?  Chances are, it wouldn't.  Then Siri gets fired after next year...bring in the next obscure yes man HC, another learning curve down year..etc.  

I have pretty close to zero confidence that the offense will improve if we are running Sirianni's offense again next season.  

The talent we have on offense, this is almost a scenario similar to when Jon Gruden went to Tampa and took over a team that was ready to compete and got them over the hump.  Of course he sucked long term, but he got the ring.

 

 

If I had a boss who didn't really make me work, didn't hold me accountable, and pretty much let me half arse my way through my job... I wouldn't want him fired either. 

15 minutes ago, Gannan said:

If I had a boss who didn't really make me work, didn't hold me accountable, and pretty much let me half arse my way through my job... I wouldn't want him fired either. 

It's crazy that Hargrave said the 49ers practice harder and whatever else he said.  Look at how their season progressed vs ours.  

Is it officially announced he is back yet? LOL

Just now, wrestlevessel said:

Is it officially announced he is back yet? LOL

They won't meet until tomorrow. 

Getting a new mega yacht takes time.

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

It's crazy that Hargrave said the 49ers practice harder and whatever else he said.  Look at how their season progressed vs ours.  

He also said that a year after his old allegedly "half arsed" team kicked his current teams arse on its way to a SB. 

edit. So he would've been referencing all of the staff that was in place last season.  Also, everyone complains about how lax practice is across the league now compared to before, but it's enforced because the NFL is pushing for less injuries. 

54 minutes ago, NOTW said:

It's crazy that Hargrave said the 49ers practice harder and whatever else he said.  Look at how their season progressed vs ours.  

EXACTLY!! I thought it was very telling he said the 49ers are way stricter and harder in their practices....and look at the pounding we took at their hands and they are going further into the playoffs....

All practices matter....

1 hour ago, GeorgeM37 said:

EXACTLY!! I thought it was very telling he said the 49ers are way stricter and harder in their practices....and look at the pounding we took at their hands and they are going further into the playoffs....

All practices matter....

Leaguewide problem. Most of the younger guys not from Shanahan's group are lighter in practices than they used to be. Shanahan is an exception because of his dad, he was brought up on old school coaching. It's not really telling, it's kind of a league flaw that eventually people are going to realize doesn't work.