24 minutes ago, MF POON said:

IF it really was his call to demote Desai and he wasn't forced into any gameplans he didn't agree with, then I understand your pov. The recent press conference sure seems like they tried to put those rumors to bed, which just makes me feel even more suspicious about the FO being too involved this season.  They tried to hammer home that Nick has power, and it just seemed weird.  Anyway, I'm willing to give the guy a pass on one epic collapse, mainly because he just lead the team to a SB appearance. BUT, If they go out next season and are stinking it up midway through, then I'm all for firing the guy.

Look I completely agree the FO is very much culpable for a lot of the issues this year. Howie didn’t do a good enough job there’s no doubt there. I just don’t think that Sirianni is a special football mind. He loves football and he’s passionate I just don’t think he’s special. I don’t think he can add much (if any) value to either the offensive or defensive side of the ball.

22 hours ago, NOTW said:

 

 

This is Siri and his offense...

Siri says: "Eeeeeaaat won't goooo. eeaaatttt won't goooo!!"

On 1/24/2024 at 2:51 PM, Talonblood said:

• Press conference in a nutshell:
• Tried to make it look like Siri has power
• Didn't say WHY the collapse happened
• Tried to make it look like Siri has power
• Did I mention they tried to make it look like Siri has power?
• Talked a lot, but never said anything

The best part of the whole conference was that Siri accepted that he will not be a play caller. Meaning that he will not override OC calls during the game and hopefully stay out of offense game planning all together. I hope while the secret x and o are discussed, Siri is locked ….out and is watering flowers. 

There are other head coaches who don't call plays, and the CEO head coach is fine other teams do it. The head coach doesn't call plays on both offense and defense, it's actually odd that we expect the HC to call plays on offense but not defense. When the HC comes from a defensive background they don't call the plays on defense and hand the offense strictly to the OC. The head coach needs to be overseeing everything, including special teams, game situations, working with all phases on adjustments from what he's seeing, etc. etc.

I think the 2 problems with Siri specifically in this regard are: 

1. If the HC has an offensive background, even if not calling the plays you expect there to be a core philosophy and playbook. So if the OC leaves, a replacement is found that runs similar offense. There will always be tweaks, adapting to changes, etc. but you have a general identity. Siri doesn't have that at all. He expects the OC to bring the offense.
2. The flip flopping on who's offense it is. It was obvious to everyone that Steichen improved the offense when he took over and it struggled when he left. This season Siri said "it's my offense" but now he's talking "our offense." He said he wants a guy to bring new ideas. Essentially the new OC will bring the playbook and ideas and incorporate some things that worked for them in the past. They way he's gone back and forth with my offense, Shane's offense, Brian's offense, our offense, etc. come across wishy-washy and like he doesn't have a plan. It would be better to just say here are my core philosophies and I rely on the OC to construct and design plays, stay innovative and work together to adapt the playbook to execute my vision. Something that sounds more confident. He's bad in interviews so that's part of it. But it doesn't exude confidence. When he says he's in charge of culture and talking to players it doesn't highlight the important facets of the head coach job apart from calling plays. 

So they're going to shy away from hiring young bright offensive minds because they will get hired elsewhere quickly and we'll be right back where we started. So they're going to look for a guy with experience who hopefully won't get hired elsewhere at least for a few years. Kellen Moore fits the bill, I could see them hiring him. They won't want someone to leave and do this all over again because Siri has no offensive plan otherwise.

On 1/25/2024 at 12:47 PM, NOTW said:

Core values, culture, hang out with the players. Maybe they can play more basketball horse or other little competitions together.

You mean like Rock, Paper, Scissors?? 

On 1/25/2024 at 12:42 AM, PoconoDon said:

I am so happy we saw an Eagles SB victory. Another one seems far, far out of reach.

Man, Don, it was soooo fricking close last season to see that 2nd SB victory, a 2nd Lombardi, a 2nd parade.........I'm grateful to see the one SB victory!!

A 2nd one would have put me to the point where I wouldn't really even care anymore too much about this Team, or the NFL. Could just sit back on Sundays an be like 'Oh the Birds won? Cool.' Or,  'Oh the Birds lost? Whatever'. Just watch the Redzone (which I pretty much do anyways) 

Back to the topic, I like Nick. He's a bit goofy and emotional, but I feel like overall his football IQ and game day management is decent. Could be better. Could be worse. He's only in year 3 of being a NFL HC, and for some guys it takes time, or a job or two, before they find their NFL footing and become what they need to become, to be a solid NFL HC. 

I think this years Teams problems were the QB, the OC, and the talent on the Defense. Losing 5 solid D starters HURT them. One LB and one Safety SHOULD have been re-signed. That's on Howie, not Nick or the DC. Not that losing Nakobe Dean broke the damn, but, when he was on the field and had the green dot,  he put players in the right positions. Birds were only giving up like 75 rushing yards a game when he was playing. He got hurt, left he field, and all hell broke loose on the D, it seemed.

And I appreciate Howie always trying to improve the roster, but when you're constantly signing guys for 1 year deals who have only minimal talent, you may need to change your approach to building an NFL roster. Or, stop signing guys who get cut by other Teams in mid-season. WTH. 

//end rant...

I've lost hope for the franchise while Siri is still in charge.  As Jon Ritchie put it - the players saw him at the podium with Howie and they know what's up. 

Can he really be expected to re-gain the trust and respect of the players?  I'm not holding my breath.

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

I've lost hope for the franchise while Siri is still in charge. 

So who is your replacement??

It's one thing to fire a HC, BUT, your Football Organization better have a detailed, sound, structured plan in place to hire a new HC.

Do the Eagles want to be a Football Organization that hires/fires, hires/fires, HCs every 3-4 years?? I hope not.

6 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

So who is your replacement??

It's one thing to fire a HC, BUT, your Football Organization better have a detailed, sound, structured plan in place to hire a new HC.

Do the Eagles want to be a Football Organization that hires/fires, hires/fires, HCs every 3-4 years?? I hope not.

Nobody expected the wheels to come completely off like they did at the end of the season.  But it is what it is.  If you were sick 3 years ago and you get sick again, to you fail to treat and let it fester, or to you take care of the illness?

If Sirianni fuxks up again like he did this year he’s out. I think this was probably made clear to him so he’s in the hot seat. 

25 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

If Sirianni fuxks up again like he did this year he’s out. I think this was probably made clear to him so he’s in the hot seat. 

Define "fuxks up".  They've lost Kelce and possibly other vets.  The defense needs to be rebuilt.  New coordinators implementing their systems (Does Jalen have to learn a new offense again?).  Realistically, I don't think many are expecting much next season.  So if the Eagles don't make the playoffs is he canned?

1 hour ago, ToDie4Eagles said:

Define "fuxks up".  They've lost Kelce and possibly other vets.  The defense needs to be rebuilt.  New coordinators implementing their systems (Does Jalen have to learn a new offense again?).  Realistically, I don't think many are expecting much next season.  So if the Eagles don't make the playoffs is he canned?

A lot of the core is still there. But the defense needed to be rebuilt this season, not just next season. Vets will move on, but they need to draft well and sign key vets because they are dealing with a salary limitation due to Hurts' contract.

They need to improve upon last season or Sirianni is gone in my opinion.

A shame if they have to fire him, because they were a few plays away from winning their 2nd Lombardi within 6 years. That loss/game still has me pissed off. 

Sirianni is definitely on a short leash from this point forward. Howie having to offload questions off of him during the PC was pathetic. 

If we're off to a slow start, I feed confident that he'll be the first HC Lurie has fired during the season. 

I think this is why they're taking their time with OC pick, because they'll likely be the interim HC at some point. 

25 minutes ago, Birdman said:

Sirianni is definitely on a short leash from this point forward. Howie having to offload questions off of him during the PC was pathetic. 

If we're off to a slow start, I feed confident that he'll be the first HC Lurie has fired during the season. 

I think this is why they're taking their time with OC pick, because they'll likely be the interim HC at some point. 

Chip was fired during the season 

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Chip was fired during the season 

Technically speaking you're correct, but season was all ready over with 1 game left 

I predict Nick will be gone by week 7 

10 hours ago, ToDie4Eagles said:

Define "fuxks up".  They've lost Kelce and possibly other vets.  The defense needs to be rebuilt.  New coordinators implementing their systems (Does Jalen have to learn a new offense again?).  Realistically, I don't think many are expecting much next season.  So if the Eagles don't make the playoffs is he canned?

If they come back next year and look anything like the worst team in the league as they did for the last third of this past season he is gone. I am pretty sure if not for the SB run in 2022 he would already be out the door. I agree that expectations are low but if the last 7 games showed us anything even low expectations can be too high. 

Howie can take some of the blame for the lack of talent on the defense. Then again the players don't really seem to improve year to year so they need better coaching. Hargrave pretty much said the practices in Philly were a cakewalk compared to what he sees in SF.  Hopefully they re-evaluate everything and try a different approach.

On 1/26/2024 at 5:17 PM, LacesOut said:

So who is your replacement??

It's one thing to fire a HC, BUT, your Football Organization better have a detailed, sound, structured plan in place to hire a new HC.

Do the Eagles want to be a Football Organization that hires/fires, hires/fires, HCs every 3-4 years?? I hope not.

That is exactly why I think Sirianni is still HC here.  Lurie knows how bad it looks for teams like the Panthers, Raiders, Texans, etc. to keep blowing through HCs quickly and are allowing him the chance to remain here and right the ship (obviously with conditions like hiring more experienced coaches and giving up control of the offense) hoping to avoid joining that group.  Sirianni probably went along with it (unlike Pederson) because he knows he is not going to get another HC opportunity any time soon (and likely wouldn't garner any interest as an OC either).  

11 hours ago, Birdman said:

Sirianni is definitely on a short leash from this point forward. Howie having to offload questions off of him during the PC was pathetic. 

If we're off to a slow start, I feed confident that he'll be the first HC Lurie has fired during the season. 

I think this is why they're taking their time with OC pick, because they'll likely be the interim HC at some point. 

I don't think they feel the same way about this one as the fans do. I think the fans are like 'this guy is the worst ever!!!' while the FO is more like 'yeah, not a fan of the way the offense got figured out like it did'.

I don't think they're expecting the OC to likely be the interim because I think if that's the case they'd outright fire Nick. Optics or not, there's no way if you really think the guy should be tossed you keep him. See I think hiring a young coach at this point is a stupid idea, but that doesn't mean they do. And that by itself means someone like Slowik would be appealing to them even if I think it's an incredibly dumb idea.

I think they want someone who's under contract and are waiting for the Commanders to not pick Bienemy so they can scoop him up. Feels more like they're not happy with the OC candidates currently available for pickup and are waiting it out.

1 hour ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I don't think they feel the same way about this one as the fans do. I think the fans are like 'this guy is the worst ever!!!' while the FO is more like 'yeah, not a fan of the way the offense got figured out like it did'.

I don't think they're expecting the OC to likely be the interim because I think if that's the case they'd outright fire Nick. Optics or not, there's no way if you really think the guy should be tossed you keep him. See I think hiring a young coach at this point is a stupid idea, but that doesn't mean they do. And that by itself means someone like Slowik would be appealing to them even if I think it's an incredibly dumb idea.

I think they want someone who's under contract and are waiting for the Commanders to not pick Bienemy so they can scoop him up. Feels more like they're not happy with the OC candidates currently available for pickup and are waiting it out.

Bienemy would make a ton of sense.  

29 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Bienemy would make a ton of sense.  

A complication with Bienemy would be if the Commanders chose Quinn and he decided to keep him.  That might be the delay.  It seems likely they are going with Ben Johnson tho

4 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I don't think they feel the same way about this one as the fans do. I think the fans are like 'this guy is the worst ever!!!' while the FO is more like 'yeah, not a fan of the way the offense got figured out like it did'.

I don't think they're expecting the OC to likely be the interim because I think if that's the case they'd outright fire Nick. Optics or not, there's no way if you really think the guy should be tossed you keep him. See I think hiring a young coach at this point is a stupid idea, but that doesn't mean they do. And that by itself means someone like Slowik would be appealing to them even if I think it's an incredibly dumb idea.

I think they want someone who's under contract and are waiting for the Commanders to not pick Bienemy so they can scoop him up. Feels more like they're not happy with the OC candidates currently available for pickup and are waiting it out.

Bienemy was who I wanted from the get-go after Doug was fired. I would be ecstatic if it played out like this. 

7 hours ago, Birdman said:

Bienemy was who I wanted from the get-go after Doug was fired. I would be ecstatic if it played out like this. 

Me too! My worry is that Howie and Sirianni are focusing too much on the record pre the collapse and not on the huge warning signs both pre, during and post the collapse.

You know who Siri is at this stage - an inside out version of Barry Switzer with Dallas.  Who knows - maybe could work for another year or two.

15 hours ago, time2rock said:

That is exactly why I think Sirianni is still HC here.  Lurie knows how bad it looks for teams like the Panthers, Raiders, Texans, etc. to keep blowing through HCs quickly and are allowing him the chance to remain here and right the ship (obviously with conditions like hiring more experienced coaches and giving up control of the offense) hoping to avoid joining that group.  He probably went along with it (unlike Pederson) because he knows he is not going to get another HC opportunity any time soon (and likely wouldn't garner any interest as an OC either).  

Nick was neutered..said one commentator. I disagree. His ballllls were cut off. LOL