January 28, 20241 yr On 1/26/2024 at 5:14 PM, Procus said: I've lost hope for the franchise while Siri is still in charge. As Jon Ritchie put it - the players saw him at the podium with Howie and they know what's up. Can he really be expected to re-gain the trust and respect of the players? I'm not holding my breath. Hough Douglas said as he was watching the PC he received a series of texts from former teammates basically calling Sirianni a puppet. If their former players think that then I can only imagine what the current players think.
January 28, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Hough Douglas said as he was watching the PC he received a series of texts from former teammates basically calling Sirianni a puppet. If they former players think that then I can only imagine what the current players think. You should have seen a clip of Jon Ritchie - I think on WIP. He pretty much said the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moore step into Siri's shoes if things start to go south.
January 28, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Procus said: You should have seen a clip of Jon Ritchie - I think on WIP. He pretty much said the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moore step into Siri's shoes if things start to go south. I wonder if Moore took this job with some type of assurance that he stays at least one more season regardless of what happens with Sirianni. I don’t see how Fangio or Moore willingly take this job and have to move in consecutive seasons if things go south with Sirianni.
January 28, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I wonder if Moore took this job with some type of assurance that he stays at least one more season regardless of what happens with Sirianni. I don’t see how Fangio or Moore willingly take this job and have to move in consecutive seasons if things go south with Sirianni. I wouldn't be surprised if Moore's contract with the Eagles has a right of first refusal clause, allowing the Eagles to match any offer for a head coaching position elsewhere.
January 28, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I wonder if Moore took this job with some type of assurance that he stays at least one more season regardless of what happens with Sirianni. I don’t see how Fangio or Moore willingly take this job and have to move in consecutive seasons if things go south with Sirianni. Even better. I wouldn't be surprised if they told Moore he would likely become the head coach if/when Siri gets canned.
January 28, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Procus said: I wouldn't be surprised if Moore's contract with the Eagles has a right of first refusal clause, allowing the Eagles to match any offer for a head coaching position elsewhere. Or as @Arsenal79 put it just make him the next head coach especially if things with Sirianni go south. I will tell you though. It would be really difficult for the Eagles to prevent Moore from taking an opportunity to become a Head coach. I don’t think the money is bigger than actually sitting in the main chair. If Dallas calls for example to offer him the head job at the end of next season do you think he’s staying as the Eagles OC? I think not.
January 28, 20241 yr Mike Tomlin, Pete Carrol, John Harbaugh. Three pretty good HCs who don't run the O or D. I guess they are puppets too. And I'm probably forgetting/missing a few more NFL HC "puppets".
January 28, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, LacesOut said: Mike Tomlin, Pete Carrol, John Harbaugh. Three pretty good HCs who don't run the O or D. I guess they are puppets too. And I'm probably forgetting/missing a few more NFL HC "puppets". They also had the stability of their situations, but when have any of those guys lost both of their coordinators and were basically forced to hire new ones? Do you think any of the guys you mentioned lack the power to hire whom they choose like Sirianni does?
January 29, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, LacesOut said: Mike Tomlin, Pete Carrol, John Harbaugh. Three pretty good HCs who don't run the O or D. I guess they are puppets too. And I'm probably forgetting/missing a few more NFL HC "puppets". Dan Campbell
January 29, 20241 yr Can you imagine what would happen here if we lost the NFCCG after having been up 24-7 and Sirianni decided to go for it twice on 4th down and didn't convert the way the Lions did? Our servers would STILL be crashed.
January 29, 20241 yr On 1/17/2024 at 11:02 PM, time2rock said: His play calling sucked before he handed that off to Steichen. Don’t know why people thought taking it back from BJ would fix anything. What he needs is a competent, creative offensive mind to run the offense (ditto on defense). Let’s see who he and Howie end up hiring. I married an Italian, and I love Italian food. The country of Italy is beautiful, and I embrace the Italians in Philadelphia and surrounding areas, (espcially my family living there). That being said what would you say Nick brings to the table other than enthusiasm? I mean he's an offensive coach that can't create an offensive playbook to help teach his OC when his OC is making mistakes? I guess I don't fully understand all that you look for in a successful head coach because i was one of the few individuals that thought firing Andy Reid was idiotic.
January 29, 20241 yr On 1/17/2024 at 8:36 PM, DBW said: Have you seen a play sheet in Siriani hand at all this season? It’s BJ calling the plays Blame him. I don't know if it was A. J. Brown calling out Nick or if Nick had lost the locker room before that event, but it seems Nick needs to do a lot more than simply be involved in the OC & DC hiring this off season. Heck if Jalen Hurts can train with Tom Brady's experts in the offseason, why can't Nick spend some millions on picking an expert OC's mind like Brian Billick for example?
January 30, 20241 yr On 1/28/2024 at 8:51 AM, Procus said: You should have seen a clip of Jon Ritchie - I think on WIP. He pretty much said the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moore step into Siri's shoes if things start to go south. On 1/28/2024 at 12:24 PM, EazyEaglez said: I wonder if Moore took this job with some type of assurance that he stays at least one more season regardless of what happens with Sirianni. I don’t see how Fangio or Moore willingly take this job and have to move in consecutive seasons if things go south with Sirianni. You guys calling for NIck's head make little sense to me. IF this is all true, then it wouldn't matter who the HC is, because the FO is going to make every HC their puppet. It's why Doug got fired, it's why Nick's on the hotseat, and it would be why fans would eventually turn on Moore. Just seems like you're not really addressing the root of the problem if you really believe all of the rumors 🙃
January 30, 20241 yr So we're back to the Howie sucks part of the cycle. Then 5 yrs from now another SB appearance w/ another HC/QB combo
January 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said: So we're back to the Howie sucks part of the cycle. Then 5 yrs from now another SB appearance w/ another HC/QB combo If you can look in a crystal ball and guarantee that Howie is going to have a new coach/QB combo, and in year two that QB will play at a near MVP level, and we’ll be in the Super Bowl, with Howie taking advantage of the rookie QB contract and signing/trading for big name FA’s…and all this will happen once every 5 years, then sure sign me up. I think we all know that’s not realistic to happen though.
February 2, 20241 yr We coach things up in team meetings and hold people accountable better than pretty much any other coach I’ve been around. I think he does a lot of things. Players love him, they’ll play hard for him. I know it was a really s— year for us but I think that Nick has a lot to bring as value as the head coach and the organizational leadership that provides to the team.” https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/kelce-gives-his-perspective-on-siriannis-changing-role-as-eagles-head-coach/562181/
February 2, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said: We coach things up in team meetings and hold people accountable better than pretty much any other coach I’ve been around. I think he does a lot of things. Players love him, they’ll play hard for him. I know it was a really s— year for us but I think that Nick has a lot to bring as value as the head coach and the organizational leadership that provides to the team.” https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/kelce-gives-his-perspective-on-siriannis-changing-role-as-eagles-head-coach/562181/ I love Kelce, but he's always been a company man. He defended every coach he's had, even Chip Kelly. He and several other players have that mentality. AJ Brown has defended Siri as well and blames the players for execution. We can all see the play calling, game decisions, scheme, etc. were bad and that's on the coach. The players aren't going to come out and say that. Maybe they really like Siri and what he does as a HC and the blame truly is on the coordinators. But the HC has to do something about the scheme and play calling in the season. Make the coordinators call different plays, make roster adjustments like benching Bradberry, do something.
February 2, 20241 yr On 1/29/2024 at 5:26 PM, JournalistMic said: I don't know if it was A. J. Brown calling out Nick or if Nick had lost the locker room before that event, but it seems Nick needs to do a lot more than simply be involved in the OC & DC hiring this off season. Heck if Jalen Hurts can train with Tom Brady's experts in the offseason, why can't Nick spend some millions on picking an expert OC's mind like Brian Billick for example? So, we need a new OC to call the plays and we need to hire a full-time consultant to explain the offense to Nick.
February 5, 20241 yr Siri can't be all that awful. He has the best win percentage in team history other than a few guys that were interim coaches for a game or two.
February 11, 20241 yr On 2/5/2024 at 12:04 AM, JohnB said: Siri can't be all that awful. He has the best win percentage in team history other than a few guys that were interim coaches for a game or two. He has an ability to motivate people; however, there’s a shelf life for that kind of coaching ability. In the end coaches are judged on more than just the ability to motivate. He has to learn how to gameplan. How to scheme for teams. How to call a game. All of these are factors. Can’t just go by record either. Rich Kotite was 22-11 as the Eagles head coach in his first two seasons with the Eagles first playoff victory since the early eighties.
February 11, 20241 yr On 1/30/2024 at 10:36 AM, MF POON said: You guys calling for NIck's head make little sense to me. IF this is all true, then it wouldn't matter who the HC is, because the FO is going to make every HC their puppet. It's why Doug got fired, it's why Nick's on the hotseat, and it would be why fans would eventually turn on Moore. Just seems like you're not really addressing the root of the problem if you really believe all of the rumors 🙃 My issue with brining Nick back is that t creates a two year rebuilding situation. Sirianni’s lame duck season, and the eventual first year for the next head coach. I’ll ask you a question that I asked someone else. What is a successful season for Nick? What must he do in order to keep his job?
February 11, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: My issue with brining Nick back is that t creates a two year rebuilding situation. Sirianni’s lame duck season, and the eventual first year for the next head coach. I’ll ask you a question that I asked someone else. What is a successful season for Nick? What must he do in order to keep his job? I mean, under most teams with actual reasonable expectations, the answer to this really wouldn't be that complex. But Philadelphia somehow ended up disliking him so much that probably only NFCCG or better will be considered in the eyes of the fanbase, regardless of the roster of the team. I dunno, I don't think I've seen the Eagles fanbase harder on anyone in the 21st century. Even Chip got more leeway, which is crazy. Lol. On 2/2/2024 at 9:26 AM, CouchKing said: So, we need a new OC to call the plays and we need to hire a full-time consultant to explain the offense to Nick. I think this is a little silly. Maybe if the concern is how quick he has to pick it up, but I think it's probably not wise to assume Nick is just dumb. I've said it before but I think it could just be a lack of exposure to different systems, which is something that can happen to a young coach that wasn't a notable NFL player. Being a backup in the NFL and sling shotting around the league exposes you to a lot of different structures of NFL offenses. Doug relied on that. Sirianni has no such benefit and wasn't exposed to a lot of offense types, and the one he was exposed to kinda sucked. So I think it might not be an issue of intelligence, but an issue of tools, which is just about getting exposed to more things. To me, an NFL head coach when exposed to that kind of thing on a weekly basis, and being around during the installs should be able to pick it up just fine. Because if you think about it the opposite way, that's the exact same way that OCs pick up offenses from Head Coaches. They just sit there and work with it too, and pick it up along the way.
February 11, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said: I mean, under most teams with actual reasonable expectations, the answer to this really wouldn't be that complex. But Philadelphia somehow ended up disliking him so much that probably only NFCCG or better will be considered in the eyes of the fanbase, regardless of the roster of the team. I dunno, I don't think I've seen the Eagles fanbase harder on anyone in the 21st century. Even Chip got more leeway, which is crazy. Lol. I think this is a little silly. Maybe if the concern is how quick he has to pick it up, but I think it's probably not wise to assume Nick is just dumb. I've said it before but I think it could just be a lack of exposure to different systems, which is something that can happen to a young coach that wasn't a notable NFL player. Being a backup in the NFL and sling shotting around the league exposes you to a lot of different structures of NFL offenses. Doug relied on that. Sirianni has no such benefit and wasn't exposed to a lot of offense types, and the one he was exposed to kinda sucked. So I think it might not be an issue of intelligence, but an issue of tools, which is just about getting exposed to more things. To me, an NFL head coach when exposed to that kind of thing on a weekly basis, and being around during the installs should be able to pick it up just fine. Because if you think about it the opposite way, that's the exact same way that OCs pick up offenses from Head Coaches. They just sit there and work with it too, and pick it up along the way. This isn’t about the fan bases viewpoints. This is about the owner and I am one who never buys into this idea of fans running someone out of town. The bottom line is Nick has no assurance he will be back by ownership once his contract is up. Like it or not this is Nickks life now. For every win the coordinators will get the credit. For every loss it will fall on Nick.
February 11, 20241 yr So just thinking about next season and let’s say the Eagles are on a two game skid with the Cowboys on the horizon. Players start looking for answers from the head coach on how to beat the Cowboys and he starts showing Kobe Bryant speeches, highlights from his 81 point game, and Mamba Mentality. Man after last year players are going to be like yeah that’s all well and good coach, but that does not give us a strategy on how to beat the Dallas Cowboys. Kind of why Covey made this comment. "I definitely think we got emotionally tired from trying to figure out what the problem was," Covey explained, as shared by Jimmy Hascup of NJ Advance Media for NJ.com. "And we kept trying to pinpoint it at this and pinpoint this. There was some miscommunication, I think, from coaches to players. There were some pointing fingers from player to player. And there was, kind of, letting outside voices impact our love for the game and just the happiness that we had. All that combined to really just kind of make it spiral.” https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/punt_returner_shares_controversial_comments_on_eagles_collapse/s1_13132_39941499
February 11, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: This isn’t about the fan bases viewpoints. This is about the owner and I am one who never buys into this idea of fans running someone out of town. The bottom line is Nick has no assurance he will be back by ownership once his contract is up. Like it or not this is Nickks life now. For every win the coordinators will get the credit. For every loss it will fall on Nick. I'm hoping you don't mean the owner with this part. Because frankly, if that was me, I wouldn't take that kind of disrespect. I'd tell him to fire me now. Just in the vein of self-respect. If I get the blame for everything that goes wrong and no credit for everything that goes right, it's a waste of my time and I might as well just take the pay for my last year (HC contracts are guaranteed), invest that time in fixing any issues that I have as a coach (TL: Go learn from some of the good, older, NFL minds) and working towards getting a reset at OC in 2025.
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