Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I would even look at 'assistants" from the Colts. Their O will be nice when Richardson returns 

Jim Bob Cooter has been linked to us though I found it odd since it is a sideways move since he is the OC already for Indy.

The only reason I could think he would take the job is for play calling 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah,they said Siri and Howie were "shopping together" which means Howie will tell Siri who he is getting lol

Both of their jobs should be on the line big time over the situation. They both need to come up with big time needle moving coordinators to continue on here.

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mahomes has had some bad OL in the past the one SB I remember him running for his life a ton when they lost to the rams I think…. But he still never really looked to run first was always looking to pass 

Mahomes really isn’t all that fast though think he is agile and shifty though…. Just for perspective Mahomes ran a 4.8 40 the same time as Peyton Manning 

And Manning hardly ran at all because he didn't need to

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So then there are no running QB's because they all look to pass first except maybe Hurts

I think lot of QB start off as running QB until they develop Fields, Lamar, Hurts, Cam think natural progression is they start to lean away from the run first mentality and look to become more pass first guys. Again doesn’t mean they can’t still run though. 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Jim Bob Cooter has been linked to us though I found it odd since it is a sideways move since he is the OC already for Indy.

The only reason I could think he would take the job is for play calling 

Why I said I would look at assistants ready to move up the chain. I know we like to try newbies

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yep he evolved. Hurts was last year also,then he regressed back into a deer in headlights,just terrible when it mattered

Agree....this is by far Lamar's best year as being a real QB not just a running one.  

Hurts I feel has excellent accuracy on the short ball...  but I watch the instincts in the pocket.... how often do you...or even last year not just this year... did you see Hurts step up in the pocket... to create a passing lane for himself.  Using the mobility to do so.   His instinct is to back up and go around.  Which sets up the run, not so much put him in position to pass.    Lamar...credit to BG...this year he has stepped up a lot in the middle and held back on running and thrown a lot of passes instead. 

Hurts goes around... and then looks like he wants to run...and then just doesn't.. or you see the quick slide.

Something that's telling...running QBs take that one or two yard loss going out of bounds... instead of throwing it away...that's the instinct ...run first, all the way until the play is over... Mahomes, Allen etc... they dump that ball out of bounds at the last second... being a passer first mentality. 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mahomes has had some bad OL in the past the one SB I remember him running for his life a ton when they lost to the rams I think…. But he still never really looked to run first was always looking to pass 

Mahomes really isn’t all that fast though think he is agile and shifty though…. Just for perspective Mahomes ran a 4.8 40 the same time as Peyton Manning 

Then the league changed the rules to officiate Mahomes differently giving him the Brady treatment. Pretty much impossible for their Oline to be guilty of holding calls.

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think lot of QB start off as running QB until they develop Fields, Lamar, Hurts, Cam think natural progression is they start to lean away from the run first mentality and look to become more pass first guys. Again doesn’t mean they can’t still run though. 

Yeah and Hurts really regressed from that this year. When he did run he fell down like a little girl. Serious lack of effort. I get he doesn't want to get hurt but it was pretty sad the lack of effort. I'm sure the team players saw this as well 

We are interviewing Ron Rivera for our DC job 

Experienced coach has HC experience, and DC experience 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Agree....this is by far Lamar's best year as being a real QB not just a running one.  

Hurts I feel has excellent accuracy on the short ball...  but I watch the instincts in the pocket.... how often do you...or even last year not just this year... did you see Hurts step up in the pocket... to create a passing lane for himself.  Using the mobility to do so.   His instinct is to back up and go around.  Which sets up the run, not so much put him in position to pass.    Lamar...credit to BG...this year he has stepped up a lot in the middle and held back on running and thrown a lot of passes instead. 

Hurts goes around... and then looks like he wants to run...and then just doesn't.. or you see the quick slide.

Something that's telling...running QBs take that one or two yard loss going out of bounds... instead of throwing it away...that's the instinct ...run first, all the way until the play is over... Mahomes, Allen etc... they dump that ball out of bounds at the last second... being a passer first mentality. 

There were huge chunks of the season the commentators laughed at the predictability of Hurts and our O. They would just over and over again point out his Hurts would escape the pressure to reset giving time for the long developing routes to finally play out for him to pass it to them.

I hate that QB running out of bounds taking a one or two yard loss.  Throw it away.   These young guys have had the rule where they can throw it away outside the pocket since they started playing...no reason to run out of bounds and take a loss...   unless you can't stop that mindset of being just a runner. 

I'm sorry,when your star WR gets 8 yards in ANY game,there is something seriously wrong with your QB. Nobody should totally shut out AJ

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We are interviewing Ron Rivera for our DC job 

I'd be cool with that

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There were huge chunks of the season the commentators laughed at the predictability of Hurts and our O. They would just over and over again point out his Hurts would escape the pressure to reset giving time for the long developing routes to finally play out for him to pass it to them.

This was our O for the whole first half of the season.

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So then there are no running QB's because they all look to pass first except maybe Hurts

There are absolutely a few running QBs... Lamar, Hurts and Fields for sure... the older one seems to be developing more ...less of just run as option #2. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I hate that QB running out of bounds taking a one or two yard loss.  Throw it away.   These young guys have had the rule where they can throw it away outside the pocket since they started playing...no reason to run out of bounds and take a loss...   unless you can't stop that mindset of being just a runner. 

Taking that safety vs TB really ticked me off and made me question Hurts altogether. ZERO reason to take that safety

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm sorry,when your star WR gets 8 yards in ANY game,there is something seriously wrong with your QB. Nobody should totally shut out AJ

This happens to everybody at some point during the season. A.J. is so deadly on those quick hitting plays. A quick slant and such. Catch and run. I almost exploded the very few times we called this play for him. Each time believing maybe the coaches finally got it. Only to fall back into the same rut instead.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

There are absolutely a few running QBs... Lamar, Hurts and Fields for sure... the older one seems to be developing more ...less of just run as option #2. 

Fields runs because he has to,Hurts doesn't have to,but he does it anyhow. His big thing is the tush push,thats all he's got. I'm not happy with Hurts play. The O play calling was atrocious. We need to get that O on track.Until then I will question Hurts. I was looking forward to him taking the next step up and he never did. In fact he went backwards

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There were huge chunks of the season the commentators laughed at the predictability of Hurts and our O. They would just over and over again point out his Hurts would escape the pressure to reset giving time for the long developing routes to finally play out for him to pass it to them.

The play vs Tampa... TD pass to #13.... best play of Hurts career showing the skills of doing adult QB things. Patience,  stepping up in the pocket...delivering a dime between defenders for a TD....to his 4th or 5th read.    

Bottle that play up...show him that all offseason.   That's adult level QB.  Do that consistently ... doesn't matter what they throw at you.  

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We are interviewing Ron Rivera for our DC job 

Been a HC since 2011. Any chance if we hire him he doesn’t take over HC duties at some point during the season?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Derrick Gunn

@RealDGunn

All indications are Brian Johnson will not be returning as the Eagles OC …. He will land elsewhere in some offensive capacity …h

Bye lol

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Taking that safety vs TB really ticked me off and made me question Hurts altogether. ZERO reason to take that safety

Probably instinct was to out " run" the defense.  Held on to the ball because he wasn't thinking of passing...just " running"  ????    

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The play vs Tampa... TD pass to #13.... best play of Hurts career showing the skills of doing adult QB things. Patience,  stepping up in the pocket...delivering a dime between defenders for a TD....to his 4th or 5th read.    

Bottle that play up...show him that all offseason.   That's adult level QB.  Do that consistently ... doesn't matter what they throw at you.  

Hurts gives us those brilliant plays,then takes a safety from TB. No consistency whatsoever