Hardly any motion. To open guys up at the line. Not even much of using picks to free guys. Did we run one crossing pattern each game even?

It kind of just became WR screen or downfield.

Should he the main focus for Hurts this offseason. Quick timing passing.

But you want to blame the QB for not having coaching call quick passes? Or for how it just flat out just relied on the plan being Hurts buys time for receivers  to work the longer routes?

Like three straight games commentators laughed at how obvious and predictable our O was. It was based on Hurts holding the ball and buying time to create the big play.

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But haven’t seen him do things to change and grow.

lol besides idk taking to coaching listening to teammates and working his ass off all year…. And the season just ended what do you want Carter to do??? He should be resting his body after a long season before attacking the offseason

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Like three straight games commentators laughed at how obvious and predictable our O was. It was based on Hurts holding the ball and buying time to create the big play.

It’s the story you make up in your head for guys like Carter then the excuses for Hurts lmao 🤣…. 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

It’s the story you make up in your head for guys like Carter then the excuses for Hurts lmao 🤣…. 

So I spoke out how I saw things go down all season. Was seeing the flaws while we were 10-1. How did you see things go down? Even if you missed what was occurring first half if the season….how can you deny the finish?

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

It’s the story you make up in your head for guys like Carter then the excuses for Hurts lmao 🤣…. 

Hurts can face fault and blame. But not because he didn’t try or work hard enough.

Does anybody think Hurts just coasted all offseason and ignored getting prepared on gamedays? Anything like that?

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts had a good season. He didn’t regress.

15 interceptions 6 fumbles that’s a good season to you???? 
 

Oh he broke the single season franchise record in tds so the tush push tds don’t impress me.

Hurts definitely regressed last year and we not even talking other bonehead mistakes he made 

How do you explain a player that works hard and is dedicated not growing and improving? 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How do you explain a player that works hard and is dedicated not growing and improving? 

That’s great and yet Hurts was worse this year he didn’t protect the ball well at all, he didn’t read defenses well and he made bone head mistakes. Can say he was playing ton much hero ball if you want trying to do to much.

 

Would we rather have 

Hurts 35 tds 11 turnovers 

Hurts 38 tds 21 turnovers????

id clearly rather have the version that protected the ball 

I also want to say Hurts had his lowest avg yards per attempt, adjusted air yards and lot of other advanced stats that show he was worse 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

15 interceptions 6 fumbles that’s a good season to you???? 
 

Oh he broke the single season franchise record in tds so the tush push tds don’t impress me.

Hurts definitely regressed last year and we not even talking other bonehead mistakes he made 

Gotta sort through the dumb just throwing out stats. Look at the stats of the success of Hurts throwing to Quez. Nothing good came if it. Two of  interceptions. 50/50 balls that he at least should have knocked down to avoid Interceptions. Then a few at the end of  games while trailing. I like those. Don’t protect stats and story lines. Only chance to win was throw it up and make a play or get PI called. He did that. Didn’t dunk and dunk playing safe to justify his role. He threw higher percentage risky throws because the situation demanded it. 

Now some were flat on Hurts. But really I blame the bad O mostly for it all.

But yeah ….you thinking so highly of Hurts that breaking the franchise scoring TDs record and leading the league in scoring…you criticize. You wanted so much more than that strong season.

Never been a QB so great he overcame a bad scheme, coaching and playcalling to thrive. Nobody

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Gotta sort through the dumb just throwing out stats

Want to talk the fumble early against Dallas from hurts???? Late interception v NE that kept them in the game, safety against the bucs in the playoffs…. Can go in depth but point is the same Hurts poor play was a problem this year and mostly his ability to protect the ball was a problem 

And this is just me be unbiased I talked about our turnovers all year but you would rather make excuses for Hurts…. Fact is it’s something that needs to be worked on lot of the turnovers from hurts were just bad decisions or was running with the ball to loose. 
 

But again not saying he won’t fix this problem but im more concerned with Hurts fixing these things then Carter who hasn’t shown anything negative since being drafted 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Now some were flat on Hurts. But really I blame the bad O mostly for it all.

The excuses lol guy is open and you miss him that’s the bad O fault lol…. You throw a ball to a defender you don’t see that’s the O fault not the QBs fault couldn’t be lol 

23 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

That’s great and yet Hurts was worse this year he didn’t protect the ball well at all, he didn’t read defenses well and he made bone head mistakes. Can say he was playing ton much hero ball if you want trying to do to much.

 

I see it as an unimaginative O. He had to play hero ball a bit. The only thing that worked was him running around to give enough time for these long plays to develop.

There was no intermediate passing game hardly. Pure obsession with big playmaking. Which Hurts delivered last year on a clip like nobody could duplicate.

Nobody feared our rushing attack. No stacked boxes to loosen up pass coverages. Seemed like DCs even knew pass or run based on personnel and formation give aways.