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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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We should be on the complete opposite situation. Should be putting up historically record breaking numbers of production and something much closer to being unstoppable. Any great O coach has our O the last several years being in the discussion about arguably greatest all time O. A decent qualified O coaching when just unchained and allowed to do his job had us throwing up double nickels. Heck that was even with us stepping off the gas killing the clock for the last eighth of the games too.

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It isn’t just one player stinking on O holding things up either. It’s really every single player and every single phase.

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Browns CB Newsome traded to the Jags

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It isn’t just one player stinking on O holding things up either. It’s really every single player and every single phase.

Bigger issue is the sloppy play to many penalties just watching the 4th qtr against the broncos seen multiple good plays called back because of penalties then the drive stalled after the penalty set us back

15 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Bigger issue is the sloppy play to many penalties just watching the 4th qtr against the broncos seen multiple good plays called back because of penalties then the drive stalled after the penalty set us back

It should be even sloppier tonight if that's possible lol

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Do it Howie!

12 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

No argument there. I couldn’t believe how poorly Siriani managed the game with a two TD lead NOT running the ball at all. Weird.

But also the run game overall is poor. The plays are bad with no creativity. I expect better. Barkley deserves better than, "just make it happen”. You have to admit there is no creativity at all to the run game and with inferior guards, it needs some….and badly.

No execution.... you people give the players passes way too often. The Broncos game was the worst played game by many of the players. Because in your minds the uniforms win...the Eagles uniform does not win anything... the players inside it win

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The Philadelphia Eagles are suffering from a historically high rate of three-and-outs at 47.2% through five games, the league's worst rate and the highest for a team in two decades.

What happens when you take out the series that Matt Pryor played? Take away those 5....and where does the # fall?

Context matters!

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Historically worst rate of three and outs….its flat out damning and fire-able to the contrary. Be different if we had a total scrub team lacking talent.

Again....historically awful poster you are because you never use context and you like to spin numbers... historical ignorance at its best

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Were comparing Eagles and Giants 2025 schedule

You may have been making that comparison in your mind, but the conversation was about how the Eagles stats would be better if their first five opponents had been easier.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Historically worst rate of three and outs….its flat out damning and fire-able to the contrary. Be different if we had a total scrub team lacking talent.

Context... through 5 games

4 games had TWO 3 and outs...

The Rams game with Matt Pryor had 5 .. well 4 and then a turnover...and a one play kneel down. The other drives that game with a Johnson at RT...4 TDs.. and another drive where they didn't convert on a 4th down

So reality is one can easily assume there would have been ZERO 3 and outs in that game.

So lower the number to 8 in 5 games... no where near anything historical... less than 2 per game.

Context matters.

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1 hour ago, EaglesTD123 said:

It should be even sloppier tonight if that's possible lol

Not buying it,the loss was a wake up call

39 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not buying it,the loss was a wake up call

I hope so, but I'm not counting on it due to the short recoup week. They need to get rid of these Thur night games. They're a killer.

51 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not buying it,the loss was a wake up call

THIS is the game for the O to get their sh!t together though. You get a TD, you get a TD, you get a TD… LOL

Giants Defense

The Giants’ defense is a fascinating contradiction. They have elite individual talent up front, players like Brian Burns, Kayvon Thibodeaux, Abdul Carter, and Dexter Lawrence, but you wouldn’t know it from the box score. Schematic predictability, poor tackling, and a bad secondary have turned a talented unit into an inconsistent one. They currently sit 26th in EPA per play allowed, despite ranking in the top 10 in pressure rate. Weird.

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/eagles-film-review/160710/eagles-opponent-film-room-scouting-the-new-york-giants-defense

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Browns CB Newsome traded to the Jags

This was the guy we should have gone for totally

16 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

No argument there. I couldn’t believe how poorly Siriani managed the game with a two TD lead NOT running the ball at all. Weird.

But also the run game overall is poor. The plays are bad with no creativity. I expect better. Barkley deserves better than, "just make it happen”. You have to admit there is no creativity at all to the run game and with inferior guards, it needs some….and badly.

Not just predictable playcalls….he isn’t capable of utilizing our players well. Cam just isn’t going to be the bulldozer against these massive Nose players.

Not only do we need to play towards our players strengths…but need to attack opponents weaknesses.

15 hours ago, joemas6 said:

What about " the dager " call to AJ?

I’m all for not playing it super conservative. But he most of the time does play things super ultra conservative. Limiting ourselves. But how can you not run the clock in the second half possessing a two score lead?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m all for not playing it super conservative. But he most of the time does play things super ultra conservative. Limiting ourselves. But how can you not run the clock in the second half possessing a two score lead?

Siri holds back our super capable O all these games. Almost what keeps our opponent in so many of these games.

Then with a nice lead…having our most effective rushing of the season….thats when Siri chooses to not eat clock and go conservative to help salt away the win.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

What happens when you take out the series that Matt Pryor played? Take away those 5....and where does the # fall?

Context matters!

Context is Patullo as OC as Siri puppet.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Again....historically awful poster you are because you never use context and you like to spin numbers... historical ignorance at its best

Context is season stats. Whole season so far

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Again....historically awful poster you are because you never use context and you like to spin numbers... historical ignorance at its best

Go ahead and make an actual case for why my post of our terrible stats isn’t accurate.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

You may have been making that comparison in your mind, but the conversation was about how the Eagles stats would be better if their first five opponents had been easier.

I was in discussion about responding to posters trying to excuse our O stats when I volunteered Gmen rank 19 on O and we are 30th.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Context... through 5 games

4 games had TWO 3 and outs...

The Rams game with Matt Pryor had 5 .. well 4 and then a turnover...and a one play kneel down. The other drives that game with a Johnson at RT...4 TDs.. and another drive where they didn't convert on a 4th down

So reality is one can easily assume there would have been ZERO 3 and outs in that game.

So lower the number to 8 in 5 games... no where near anything historical... less than 2 per game.

Context matters.

Sure…if everything had gone as expected we wouldn’t have ever not moved the chains.

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