14 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Wow we ****dn’t watch the 2nd half but woke up to a 34-17 L. When’s are bye week seems like we need one

All you missed was things got much worse and harder to stomach as the lowly crap Gmen squad just dictated the entire football game to our Eags. I never had that feeling like we were coming back to find a way to victory.

19 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

I understand injuries and can forgive that part. Can't forgive this OC and his play calling or the poor tackling. If HR can't take care of the CB2 problem by Nov 4th, stick a fork in this season. It may even be too late by then.

It’s really not our only need, that second outside CB. We have a generous amount of quality young players on board. So not like we went All In just for this season. Right now, it’s not even a move I’d really go hard towards. Not really thinking we are just that one other opposite outside CB away from bringing home the parade.

20 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

I understand injuries and can forgive that part. Can't forgive this OC and his play calling or the poor tackling. If HR can't take care of the CB2 problem by Nov 4th, stick a fork in this season. It may even be too late by then.

We just won the SB…brought back 10 of 11 starters….not going to come across such an alluring OC job opening to be filled. Patullo should have just been the fallback break in case of emergency option if every single other quality option just refused. Some many quality coaches throughout NFL history and present would just be drooling over such a cast to coach.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We just won the SB…brought back 10 of 11 starters….not going to come across such an alluring OC job opening to be filled. Patullo should have just been the fallback break in case of emergency option if every single other quality option just refused. Some many quality coaches throughout NFL history and present would just be drooling over such a cast to coach.

Last season O should have gone done as at least arguably the greatest O ever. Siri decision was hold that super talented O cast back and play things ultra conservative. While the league history has featured great teams that would have relied on that O to carry the team…heck look at Cincy.

Thing is…the naive blind fans that purposely blind themselves about what’s been going on with this organization. The problems and issues aren’t Patullo so much. He’s as much of a puppet doing Siri bidding as it comes. Siri trusts him and they communicate well and thoroughly I completely believe. So Patullo actually that OC that Siri has empowered and let’s have the most freedom. Steichen wasn’t even playcalling or QB whispering initially with Siri you must remember. Siri literally had no other options but to turn things over to Stechein to keep his own job. But it was doing so running Siri O and scheme sadly. Johnson it was rumored didn’t have much relationship with Siri really at all. That Rosie and Lurie made that call promoting him(for all the various reasons). Same thing they did hiring Desai. Add in the preplanned scapegoating of Desai from the beggining by bringing in such a cancerous Patricia solely desiring to sink Desai and take his place profiting from his failure.

Johnson in 2023 didn’t sound like he had much power or input with Siri hardly at all. Hindsight especially points towards Johnson input was with Hurts. So that was the internal battle that whole season. Johnson had to do Siri bidding while he and Hurts(whole O in truth) were so frustrated with Siri O.

Patullo isn’t Johnson. Siri and Patullo really seem to be two coaches that talk ball together for years and years. So they listen to each other and try to figure things out together. Obvious track record proving those two aren’t qualified or capable of doing so. Seems like both are friendly trusted coaches and all. Loyal. But freakin’ terrible at the X and Os surrounding this game. I’ve had problems with all kinds of different coaching issues throughout all my years around this game. But I can’t think of any other time coaches stuck out so glaringly near incompetent at this. Including college or the pros.

It’s bad! Such an obstacle to be forced to overcome. SB champions returning everybody. I was feeling we were in our greatest ever franchise run too. Wanting to have enough accomplished to refer to our Eagles actually having a dynasty run.

Thing is….no salary cap on coaches. Fantastic personnel of proven champions to lure in any available top O mind in. So turning to Patullo really disappointing. Understatement….especially since Siri and Patullo track record ALL these years here has done nothing but prove they can’t handle the job.

I’m convinced Rosie stepped in last season even to save the day. At the last possible minute. Plan was Moore O…Lurie, Rosie and Siri made this clear. After The Collapse Rosie clearly was looking at other HC options to turn to from Siri. The options weren’t there last offseason though. So …get why they demoted Siri but kept him on. Clear as day to me that Steelers game was when Rosie commanded Siri to let Moore run the O. Siri out of job security room back control…which I can understand really. I mean who puts their career in the hands of the guy looking to profit most from your failure?

Now we are just trying to coast on what Moore and Coach Doug accomplished last season. Which wasn’t even a true full season…since Siri high jacked the O for at least half of the season.

What part of this year’s team is actually thriving?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What part of this year’s team is actually thriving?

Oline hasn’t been above average. RBs are producing at league low levels. AJ having an abysmal season. Smitty really looking like personally he should be having a huge jump on a monster season…but even him personally stepping up can’t overcome everything else weighing him down.

Majority of posters here all they bark about is our personnel talent level. Wouldn’t know a better way to make my case about scheme and effects of coaching than to point at our 2025 Eagles. Too much to overcome. Most my time being an Eags fan I’ve wished for a WR as great as AJ. Watched coaching scheme our O to win with guys like James Thrash.

What coach can’t utilize AJ?

What coach can’t utilize Saquan? Coming off being so clearly the best O(probably whole NFL) player just last season. The best…down to what? What’s his RB rank? Don’t play fantasy anymore but can’t believe Saquan is producing as a top 15 RB.

Plus side…Goedert they focused on turning into a redzone weapon finally. Something he just never was before. But that’s just one guy…that’s not very reliable to suit up but so much.

We went from Siri should be replaced and axed over The Collapse to he gained control enough to dictate his boy Patullo promotion to OC. Real bad judgement there. Very troubling decision by our HC. Couldn’t do what’s best for the team. Made the very selfish and comfortable decision instead of what our 2025 Eags would need.

I don’t even see this as an issue with Patullo. This really is all surrounding Siri. Him controlling the O with his beliefs he’s a great O mind coach. That factor makes what should be a great opportunity as a OC job undesirable. What even remotely decent O mind coach wants to come under Siri…in Siri O? Steichen…did. Johnson hard to argue against him taking such a large promotion under even those circumstances. Moore they literally went all out in a super elaborate scheme to trick into taking the OC job. They screamed to any microphone that Siri was remaking as CEO coach only….that our OC would have full atonomy and control over his O. Did all that just to trick Kellen Moore into taking our OC job. Think about that…personnel most here just endlessly preach is so fantastic. But Siri bullied right back in on Moore even in that situation. Then promoted Patullo.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t even see this as an issue with Patullo. This really is all surrounding Siri. Him controlling the O with his beliefs he’s a great O mind coach. That factor makes what should be a great opportunity as a OC job undesirable. What even remotely decent O mind coach wants to come under Siri…in Siri O? Steichen…did. Johnson hard to argue against him taking such a large promotion under even those circumstances. Moore they literally went all out in a super elaborate scheme to trick into taking the OC job. They screamed to any microphone that Siri was remaking as CEO coach only….that our OC would have full atonomy and control over his O. Did all that just to trick Kellen Moore into taking our OC job. Think about that…personnel most here just endlessly preach is so fantastic. But Siri bullied right back in on Moore even in that situation. Then promoted Patullo.

Read this…speak it out loud. Siri has been very straight up about his belief in himself as an O coach. We won a SB. So he was given the power to actually choose. What did Siri do? He promoted his most trusted puppet boy. Wake up if you some how still try to convince yourself Siri hasn’t been running our O most all these years. Finally got some power that Rosie couldn’t even deny him because he was a SB winning HC. What did Siri choose to do with his power? He literally ensured he had zero roadblocks in his way towards controlling and running his O.

Not even any grey area about Patullo clearly bring Siri’s biggest puppet shadow option. Exactly the first choice anybody would have mentioned if the question was: which coach would Siri hire as OC if he was all about controlling and running the O.

Fired Johnson …scapegoat trying to mask the real problems and issues. Really surprising to me so many lapped up that cool aid and asked for seconds, thirds, fourths.

Nothing to really even be frustrated about with Patullo. Scapegoating him and firing him isn’t the answer. The answer Rosie and Lurie understood after The Collapse even so very clearly. Siri isn’t the right guy to run our O. CEO coach is his only possible fit. Which really don’t even know what that job would entail. Siri wouldn’t really be involved with the D or the O. Make the game time situational decisions, go talk at banquets for benefits on our teams behalf, organize setting up our teams scheduling….rock paper scissors

Dang 2 pages of Ham talking to himself. he needs his own site and be the only poster.

Weird observation: this team seems to run more comebacks than any other team in the league. Does Hurts like stationary targets more than guys crossing, etc? His deep out passing has never been great….unless the receiver is wide open.

This team runs no screens. Why not? Well, I guess they run those stupid, ineffective WR screens.

Why don’t they feature Barkley on choice routes? I remember Westbrook OWNING defenders on choice routes. Get Barkley in space!

How is this not on the OC? His playcalling is pathetic. Every run is under center and up the middle…several where Barkley gets drilled by three defenders 3 yards in the backfield. COACH, see what defenders are doing and ADJUST! It is NOT rocket science! Every pass is in shotgun. Defense could probably call the play at the line of scrimmage when the Eagles line up. Pathetic! Professional football for heck sake.

The more I watch the Eagles offense, I can call the play before the ball is snapped. My son asked me if I had a direct line with the OC during the first half. So bad. Get the QB under center and play football that makes the defense play honestly….please! Hurts can do it , right? Or am i missing something?

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Dang 2 pages of Ham talking to himself. he needs his own site and be the only poster.

Funny but mean.

I’m really struggling to understand why this offense is soooo bad this season so far. They are bad! This team could EASILY be 2-4. Is it JUST two new guards? No way! The run game to me is the most obvious struggle. It looks like they only run one or two run plays and the way they line up TELLS the defense beforehand which run it is! So change up the looks PRE-SNAP! Do not wait until the bye to install it either! This alone will help. Right now it is too easy for defenders. Make it harder for defenses to diagnose plays AND run some screens to help the guards a little.