1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I have no clue what this shows,Movie screen needed

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I have no clue what this shows,Movie screen needed

A whole designed piece of garbage

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What? we used motion I saw it some. In fact Bark got flagged for illegal shift

Doesn't matter. Unless the O line does it's job nobody going anywhere motion or not

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

A whole designed piece of garbage

That was TB, history now. I hope Dart doesn't chop us up on a short week. We have a 3 man O line a C and 2 T's LOL

"During his postgame news conference with the media, Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni appeared to question the decision to get away from the running despite playing with a lead for much of the afternoon. He thought Barkley needed to get more carries for Philadelphia to close out the game." See? Siri does NOT call the plays. But as the HC he should have sounded this alarm IN game, not after JMO

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

"During his postgame news conference with the media, Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni appeared to question the decision to get away from the running despite playing with a lead for much of the afternoon. He thought Barkley needed to get more carries for Philadelphia to close out the game." See? Siri does NOT call the plays. But as the HC he should have sounded this alarm IN game, not after JMO

6 carries for 30 yards!

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tried to be optimistic about Ringo for so long….he's fast…running a forty…but doesn’t have fluid hips and that quick recovery step.

What solution do you propose, or are you simply complaining for the sake of complaining.

12 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Shot ourselves in the foot a lot

This right here atleast in the 4th qtr which is the only part of the game I caught…. Just so many sloppy penalties on ourselves negating huge plays

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

What solution do you propose, or are you simply complaining for the sake of complaining.

At least Ham is admitting one of his boys is a problem. Not much we can do with Ringo wait for Adoree to get healthy unless we make a trade to replace both.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

A whole designed piece of garbage

Be more specific

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

6 carries for 30 yards!

The passing game which we FINALLY saw should have opened up the running game which was all but abandoned when we need it most(with a 21-3 lead into the 4th). Hurts hit on it. There is a difference from being conservative, to being mediocre. IMO if you "execute" conservative(aka vanilla plays) you will be ok, If you can't you are mediocre and are no longer dominant and subject to being overtaken. Even the 4 wins were sloppy, ugly with some defense and luck added in. As I said IMO(which accounts for nothing except my opinion) The time to bish about the play calling was TO PATULLO DURING THE GAME and ask him "where did the run plays go?". Post game is not the time to ask these questions. Besides the O not functioning in the 4th, Fangio's D gave up the lead too. Or at least this time his D couldn't bail us like other games with blocks and scoop and scores. I said not to rely on those. Eve the mighty Q got burned. When we all(and the players and fans) clamored for a passing game, it wasn't with the idea of abandoning the run game, it was supposed to be in ADDITION to it. But facts are the running game is not the same. It was average and adding even an "average" passing game would compliment it. Passing helped get us the 21-3 lead. I will assume Patullo figured that would continue all game. But if you don't execute you are punting and not killing off the clock. Patullo needs to learn to adjust on the fly. It's very difficult to do and very few master it. Sean Peyton is one of those masters. It took him 3 1/4's but he found his answer. I will tell you a short story next

When I played at TE, our team was getting beat up by a lesser squad. We knew we were better, but on the field we weren't. The coach didn't say much, didn't need to, just watched and studied. We were all busting hard but getting beat anyhow. About midway through the 3rd 1/4 he called a full time out. e said to us all "OK from now on when you lie up I want everyone to line up 4 inches more to your right" We kind of looked at each other like WTH are you talking about? But coach is coach,so you do it. What that did that we were unaware of, was give us the leverage we were missing. That 4 inches gave us the angles we needed. it made all the difference, we smoked them from then on and won the game. Instead of our line(and me) being "stood up straight" we now had the should angle for the leverage. It was really amazing to us all that 4 mere inches made all the difference. The other team didn't catch what we changed because it wasn't obvious, but it's what changed the game. Now I am not saying 4 inches will help us(or maybe it could) but those tiny tiny changes can make all the difference. We have a quick turn now and Patullo doesn't have alot of time to adjust here. Maybe he tried, but we didn't/couldn't respond. I mean some days nothing works. The passing game was working, up until the time it didn't . You have to know what to do when that happens. I'm not mad we passed more. I wanted to see that, but there needs to be a nice mix throughout the game not 1 sided either way. Then at the end you want to put your foot on their neck and snuff out their lights(that would require a running game). Along with penalties and a few bad ref calls tossed in we couldn't get it done. Now the run game will be called into question. This O line needs to be fixed and dominate again. Bad day yesterday, but we have to regroup, move on figure out what went wrong(which was everything LOL) Barks needs a break out game and I hope he has one and I see no reason the passing game can't do well and I want to see a mix of both. We should be able to win that one easily. But never say never, the Pats took down Buffalo in their house too. Rant over

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That was TB, history now. I hope Dart doesn't chop us up on a short week. We have a 3 man O line a C and 2 T's LOL

History of our brilliant O design this season

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Be more specific

Find a trash can. Place play design inside. Put at curb for garbage disposal…so it’s never seen again.

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

What solution do you propose, or are you simply complaining for the sake of complaining.

Solution can only be upgrading with a more capable CB option.

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Solution can only be upgrading with a more capable CB option.

That is generic. It doesn't solve the problem. It only looks to the future. What is your solution NOW? Where do you get that more capable CB? What specific players do you have in mind?

17 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is generic. It doesn't solve the problem. It only looks to the future. What is your solution NOW? Where do you get that more capable CB? What specific players do you have in mind?

Originally Isaiah Rodgers. Now we’ll need to look through who is available. Newsome CB for the Browns would be great.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The passing game which we FINALLY saw should have opened up the running game which was all but abandoned when we need it most(with a 21-3 lead into the 4th). Hurts hit on it. There is a difference from being conservative, to being mediocre. IMO if you "execute" conservative(aka vanilla plays) you will be ok, If you can't you are mediocre and are no longer dominant and subject to being overtaken. Even the 4 wins were sloppy, ugly with some defense and luck added in. As I said IMO(which accounts for nothing except my opinion) The time to bish about the play calling was TO PATULLO DURING THE GAME and ask him "where did the run plays go?". Post game is not the time to ask these questions. Besides the O not functioning in the 4th, Fangio's D gave up the lead too. Or at least this time his D couldn't bail us like other games with blocks and scoop and scores. I said not to rely on those. Eve the mighty Q got burned. When we all(and the players and fans) clamored for a passing game, it wasn't with the idea of abandoning the run game, it was supposed to be in ADDITION to it. But facts are the running game is not the same. It was average and adding even an "average" passing game would compliment it. Passing helped get us the 21-3 lead. I will assume Patullo figured that would continue all game. But if you don't execute you are punting and not killing off the clock. Patullo needs to learn to adjust on the fly. It's very difficult to do and very few master it. Sean Peyton is one of those masters. It took him 3 1/4's but he found his answer. I will tell you a short story next

So much in this to correct. You still clearly not a believer in needing any O mind coaching. Most desire scheming players open…good playcalling…at least trying to generate favorable matchups. Then you go on talk about Fangio D….but talk about ST play….which is a whole other phase coached by Clay instead.

I leave it at this ultra short version

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Find a trash can. Place play design inside. Put at curb for garbage disposal…so it’s never seen again.

Says nothing

Riq Woolen, Denzel Ward could be possibilities

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So much in this to correct. You still clearly not a believer in needing any O mind coaching. Most desire scheming players open…good playcalling…at least trying to generate favorable matchups. Then you go on talk about Fangio D….but talk about ST play….which is a whole other phase coached by Clay instead.

I leave it at this ultra short version

First, you need a solid O line for ANY of this. Dickerson has not been at 100 and Toth is not cutting it either. I can scheme and draw plays up all day. if I don't have the personnel, I may as well doodle. Blocked kicks/scoop and scores are defensive plays in my view whatever label you want to put on them. Clay was responsible for Q getting spanked by Sutton?? The kick blocking unit is mostly your D players, so I count that as a defensive play not a ST play. If you want to view it as ST that's up to you. Depends on your viewpoint I suppose

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Originally Isaiah Rodgers. Now we’ll need to look through who is available. Newsome CB for the Browns would be great.

The assessment by the Defensive Coaches and Howie was that Rodgers was good at tracking the receiver, and as a result being in good position to defend the pass, but severely deficient in his ball location skills. He had not shown any proficiency in being able to turn back toward the Quarterback, locate the flight trajectory of the incoming pass, and then compete with the receiver for control of the ball. As a result receivers were regularly able to pluck the ball out of the air just above Rodgers' head. In addition, failure to turn and locate the ball is a huge invitation for pass interference penalties on any ball that is underthrown, because the receiver is obstructed from coming back for the underthrown ball by the defender who hasn't turned.

The coaches and Howie may have been wrong in that assessment, or Rodgers may have been an old dog learning new tricks since arriving in Minnesota, but the video tape of Rodgers filling in for Slay in the 2024 games confirms (provides clear evidence of) what the coaches and Howie had concluded. So the Rodgers ship sailed six months ago.

With that said, what would you be offering Cleveland in exchange for Newsome?

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You still clearly not a believer in needing any O mind coaching.

Where did I say this??

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Originally Isaiah Rodgers. Now we’ll need to look through who is available. Newsome CB for the Browns would be great.

Saying Rodgers after 5 weeks is not giving an answer lol even though find it funny you were calling for Ringo all of last year and this off-season but now that he see that he sucks you are back tracking to Rodgers.

29 minutes ago, mattwill said:

With that said, what would you be offering Cleveland in exchange for Newsome?

Going to say it would cost something around a 4th or 5th for Newsome