6 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

no, i didn't. you threw a four seamer right down the middle that i just hit out of the park.

wave to me as i round the bases, little guy.

So how do you respond back to leading by example demonstration creating our organizations culture from Hurts to every player regardless of position…with thinking that all begins with Siri?

I’ll volunteer I don’t question Siri’s work ethic and dedication…clearly his strength at his craft.

Thought it was just me getting po'd at not sustaining drives and expecting too much. Uh-uh.

https://x.com/denizselman33/status/1984875986035339611

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wow…what do you think about that? First thoughts I’d say it wasn’t fair to fire the O minded coach after only a few games with their top pick franchise QB

I mean I’d say it is completely fair he bas consistently had one of the worse Os since taking over as NYs HC failed with Daniel Jones who is showing you can win with, failed with Russell Wilson(who is washed at this point to be fair), and little to late now with Dart.

Pretty sure there were reports saying Daboll wasn’t interested in keeping Saquon either which likely led to the decision to part ways with him and Saquon becoming an Eagle(good for us)

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Maybe Dabol could be a potential OC candidate for us.

Not interested besides think Patullo going to be fine great RZ O under him and we started to see things open up for the team last 2 weeks…. Yea slow start for the rookie OC but we are looking like a dangerous team going into the bye and hopefully only build on that coming out of it.

And I don’t see Patullo getting poached this season so no need to worry about a new OC

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Run into as many Packers fans as I ever have in my life other than when actually in Wisconsin. Think everybody here realizes running into me wasn’t going to just slide by without…yeah can’t anybody question my diehard fan-ness/hood/dedication..whatever you’d refer to it as…probably not super healthy 🤣😂…but you guys I know understand.

did you just try to call yourself, hood? 🤣

They're blowing double digit leads - but they're getting those leads. Haven't watched them, sure sounds like a D problem.

6 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i agree, nick is more mature and it trickles down throughout the coaches and players. it's his culture that allows them all to grow.

Dude…nobody could actually say that woth a straight face or actually believe this. Hurts been about the most mature young twenties year old I could ever use an example. Siri one of the least mature HC I can use as an example in the history of the NFL..that’s saying something.

Siri culture of not being able to coach(teach) players was arguably our teams biggest weakness going since he was hired. Well combined with forcing his terribly undeveloped O to be run. Siri was such a holdup developing our franchise QB just disgusting to me. No other franchise would let any HC not prioritize doing that. To be fair…Rosie was looking at drafting Pickett to be our franchise QB in that next draft…so Hurts wasn’t being thought of and appreciated near enough to be thought of as our franchise QB. No QB could have survived that setup for failure situation our Eagles provided Hurts with first year starting. How the heck did he overcome and survive that? Terrible team totally capped out due to paying for players no longer on the team even. 2021 couldn’t even add FAs like most 4 win teams usually at least can do to aid a rebuild effort. Old slow mortgaged future cap 4 win 2020 team…can’t get much worse than taking over that trainwreck.

Heck 2020 situation was worse than terrible…it was so bad couldn't even fire Rosie right then.

10 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Thought it was just me getting po'd at not sustaining drives and expecting too much. Uh-uh.

https://x.com/denizselman33/status/1984875986035339611

Nah..wasn’t just you…was just that obvious..and yes I’ll label it frustrating. On the positive side: scoring TDs not settling for field goals is winning football recipe. Actually pretty rare combination. Teams moving the ball routinely in the middle of the field while failing to score the TDs more common.

10 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean I’d say it is completely fair he bas consistently had one of the worse Os since taking over as NYs HC failed with Daniel Jones who is showing you can win with, failed with Russell Wilson(who is washed at this point to be fair), and little to late now with Dart.

Pretty sure there were reports saying Daboll wasn’t interested in keeping Saquon either which likely led to the decision to part ways with him and Saquon becoming an Eagle(good for us)

Agreed…most situations believe coaches shouldn’t be judged on old washed up QB failures then first few games with a rookie QB. Daniel Jones brought the ax!! His success under Stechein damning for Dabol.

Which brings to mind Stecheins situation with the Colts. GM really screwed hiM. Even just considering the one move they made to grab a QB so high that wasn’t anywhere ready to lead an NFL team.Just Give him Daniel Freakin’ Jones and they are massively overachieving.

12 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not interested besides think Patullo going to be fine great RZ O under him and we started to see things open up for the team last 2 weeks…. Yea slow start for the rookie OC but we are looking like a dangerous team going into the bye and hopefully only build on that coming out of it.

And I don’t see Patullo getting poached this season so no need to worry about a new OC

You know…it’s real hard to actually draw that conclusion about our O situation. Redzone scoring TDS give kudos to our success so far. But terrible three and outs routinely isnt good enough with this talent level. Hey..first time doing all this so much more for Patullo…so I’m not coming with torches and pitchforks over him needing a learning curve..I consider that to be expected. Now…got a bye…we used to make improvements. But right before that his job performance was midseason fire-able.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You know…it’s real hard to actually draw that conclusion about our O situation. Redzone scoring TDS give kudos to our success so far. But terrible three and outs routinely isnt good enough with this talent level. Hey..first time doing all this so much more for Patullo…so I’m not coming with torches and pitchforks over him needing a learning curve..I consider that to be expected. Now…got a bye…we used to make improvements. But right before that his job performance was midseason fire-able.

Oops cutoff…biggest improvement occurred solely based on the fact Toth is terrible long snapping while being our backup C option. How in this day an age could a guy like that even be considered an option to play C..even as any backup? So Cam injury forced Siri to make the key adaptation leading to our success. I mean are we really crediting O coaching for making that needed wise move/adjustment? Easily could view that as just really highlighting how bad the coaching was before they completely lucked into an X and O solution.

22 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

did you just try to call yourself, hood? 🤣

My diehard fanhood is beyond questioning

23 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

did you just try to call yourself, hood? 🤣

I’ll give you credit on this one…even if it’s making fun of me? If it’s good you get two thumbs up from me! Well played Tater…you’re growing on me.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mike Kafka taking over as interim HC for the Giants now that Daboll got fired….

Surprised it took this long....he was dead man walking since the start of the year.

25 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

They're blowing double digit leads - but they're getting those leads. Haven't watched them, sure sounds like a D problem.

Kind of like how some here..and everywhere don’t understand the difference in stats and winning. Like how we had a two score lead and got beat by the Broncos…only gave Saquan one carry that second half in a game the rushing game was its most productive of the season. Could have fired Patullo and changed things up with our O right after that moment. Lurie and Rosie aren’t the typical knee jerk reacting NFL guys though. Good and bad…not sure if it’s a good thing right now in this irrational for us. Worked out massively in our favor most of the time being sure to note. I’ve been a believer that Siri and Patullo wasn’t good enough to run our O…so patience in a bad situation hurts us. My feelings about the O coaching situation I’ve attempted to adjust being more optimistic and positive about since it’s already the move that’s been done. Huge gamble rolling the dice doing this however. No salary cap forcing coaching situations. Crazy wild very low chances it works out as the right move. Especially tough being we weren’t forced into this situation due to such terrible personnel on the O side of this team..proven SB dominating winner returning a but one starter. It’s our weakest link without question.

39 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not interested besides think Patullo going to be fine great RZ O under him and we started to see things open up for the team last 2 weeks…. Yea slow start for the rookie OC but we are looking like a dangerous team going into the bye and hopefully only build on that coming out of it.

And I don’t see Patullo getting poached this season so no need to worry about a new OC

Glad you’re optimistic about all this. Hard for me..though I’m trying. But you even pointed towards the fact Cam got injured forcing our successful O adjustment under C because of Toth. Actually would point towards the same thing you prop them up with to label as damning evidence proving how flawed job was being done.

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Surprised it took this long....he was dead man walking since the start of the year.

If Daniel Jones doesn’t thrive under Steichen I don’t believe it would have occurred. Could have been given time considering rookie QB needed development.

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Surprised it took this long....he was dead man walking since the start of the year.

See Dabol as a fairly good example for you on the point of O mind isn’t all that’s needed to be a HC. He knows some X and Os. But exactly my main red flag question mark I have hiring him to takeover as OC for us …character and intangibles…his style and leadership.

18 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Surprised it took this long....he was dead man walking since the start of the year.

Kind of stinks that the giants are actually making good decisions so much more now. Easily could have stuck by Dabol for another season behind the reasoning of development of their rookie QB. Before they would have drafted Shedeur right at the top of the draft…instead of making the very wise moves they made…with Dart looking good…small sample..but he just passes the eye test of being a Baller. They got a super stud WR, franchise QB, stud pass rusher, fired Dabol…giants actually could become a problem.

Commanders getting rid of Snyder really such a huge move for their future competitiveness also. Two crap divisional opponents in the way up not ideal for us. Problem for those two though: they gotta deal with us. Losing the divisional cupcakes..oh well.

58 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not interested besides think Patullo going to be fine great RZ O under him and we started to see things open up for the team last 2 weeks…. Yea slow start for the rookie OC but we are looking like a dangerous team going into the bye and hopefully only build on that coming out of it.

And I don’t see Patullo getting poached this season so no need to worry about a new OC

A talented OC failed after promotion to HC would be ideal for us. Solve our biggest weakness/issue.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean I’d say it is completely fair he bas consistently had one of the worse Os since taking over as NYs HC failed with Daniel Jones who is showing you can win with, failed with Russell Wilson(who is washed at this point to be fair), and little to late now with Dart.

Pretty sure there were reports saying Daboll wasn’t interested in keeping Saquon either which likely led to the decision to part ways with him and Saquon becoming an Eagle(good for us)

Thing is Rosie and most here had the exact same team building philosophy about not paying a RB. Heck FL stated endlessly how everything is all Oline anyway…RBs/Hurts don’t matter.

Gnats need to dump their GM, but as an Eagle, I like him staying