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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because Hurts decided he's not going to bust anymore. A real BOOST to the other 52 when your leader cashes in his chips

If your QB isn't going to give 100% why should anyone else??

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6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes I did

We all did, but its annual with every team, only the last 2 have been horrific. The Dullaz game was ridiculous. If the players already knew Hurts gave up, they aren't going to pay attention to "details" 

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9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If your QB isn't going to give 100% why should anyone else??

So now if you are Siri/Patullo what do you do between a rock and a hard place? If Hurts sucks or won't make plays, do you risk your job and take him out? With this new report(since apparently that was agreed to???) that Hurts isn't going to use his best asset, which affects 52 other players it's hard to blame the rest for not trying their best, Are we back to the next Wentz debacle???? I'm not really a drama dude, but this is a slap in the face to 52 other people. I posted about this 1-2 days before that info even came out and I really wanted to be wrong

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So much for the Hurts "it's on me" lies, because he set that up himself. Just pathetic. It's hard being an Eagles fan. On to LA

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What have you seen from our O? Would you say this season they are exemplary with discipline and detail?

Friday was awful QB play.

On 11/30/2025 at 3:25 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

If he lines up two yard outside the number, if he's by himself, he's running a hitch. If it's two by two and Smitty's on his side with him or the tight ends on his side when he is off the ball, he's running a slant. It's like the same thing. If he's inside, he is running the quick out or the stick route. It's just the same thing."

OchoCinco

Man, there are just a lot of dumb defensive coordinators out there... I mean with this genius information the Eagles should NEVER complete a pass with the other team knowing all this for 💯 certain?

On 11/30/2025 at 9:06 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

Patullo been key figure to overcome with the passing game this entire time(not referring to just this season)

Can't possibly be the QB? Just not possible?

On 11/30/2025 at 9:13 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

imagine how big a difference it would be if our guys had the 31st best O scheme they were working in…probably be undefeated

Or a better person reading the D and making throws?

On 11/30/2025 at 9:53 PM, Asg 15 said:

So am I

He's the only change on the O line that went from great to crap

I can't believe he was that important to the run game

Didn't you watch last year?

On 12/1/2025 at 12:06 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

Oh man, terrific play call by the Wuss, dude was WIDE open for the 2 pt win, but BLOCKED by Bonitto. Excellent game

If that was the Eagles...they would blame the play call...it's been that way all season.

On 12/1/2025 at 12:18 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just an observation. The running QB's seems to be falling off the path in favor of the passers. Even Lamar looks worse, Mahomes and Allen not taking off much. Defenses are figuring out how to keep the running QB's from running(aka containing) and while passing QB's can get a few rushing yards I'm not seeing any QB really winning games with his legs as the major contributor. Anyone else notice this? Maybe it's just me? Thoughts? Daniels could be an exception, but as a running QB he sends me the RG3 vibes as he is currently out. Risk/reward I suppose, but seems to me those rewards for running QB's are short lived

Eventually it gets figured out...not a long term solution. However, scrambles to avoid sacks will always be a factor.

On 12/1/2025 at 12:39 AM, cunninghamtheman said:

Why should we win the rest?

I’d fire a coach that resided over two collapses.

Winning week one shouldn’t save a coach that things clearly go downhill on.

He either finally has things click and gets things rolling in the right direction…or fired!

How is the weather on your planet?

23 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Herbert fractured his hand and is having surgery. Raiders are trash. Commanders shouldn’t be a problem..twice. No reason we shouldn’t go 5-0 to finish. Anything less than 4-1 finish is unacceptable!

What if the last game doesn't matter after going 3-1?

23 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Really what’s important is Siri getting things figured out though. He’s been absolutely terrible this season. Five games left in the regular season for him to figure it out and prove his worth. Get this team on the right page looking like a legit contender to repeat.

Really what's important is the QB. He seems not only to be clueless on the field, but also losing his team in the locker room. Of course for someone who still doesn't get the Reddick situation, I'm sure you will bury your head in the sand on this.

23 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sad how similar the confidence I have in things is to you describing our coaching staff playing. Things really are feeling that bleak.

Agreed...very bleak because AJ and the rest know the QB is locked in with his contract and it's an uphill battle for people within the organization to speak up publicly at the moment about his play.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just having a winning season is underachieving. Is this something you can understand?

It was your standard for 14 years under your boy Andy!

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes it is when you consider how bad we are playing at this point. Still time…key part all coming up though. As long as they get things worked out here it will be just fine

Dude you are clueless to the problem.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If we start out 10-1 but can’t beat an elementary school special Olympics team when it matters? That’s a failure to me!!!

Who is that special Olympics team on the schedule? Looking back at this season...which team on our schedule that we played so far is special Olympics level?

Dallas, KC, Tampa, Rams, Denver, Giants before injuries, Detroit, Green Bay, Chicago???

You could argue Minnesota...they were doing decent at the time that was also an away game for us.

Raiders might be that team coming up. But 8-4 ... with this schedule and OL and QB play... isn't exactly a collapse?

Now..the bleak part.... the QB is basically untouchable at the moment and is in a bad place regarding his play and fit within the organization. That's a problem, a major one. Because unless he gets injured, no shot he comes out regardless of how bad he gets.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are you just looking for that participation

Trophy come the postseason FL? (If we make them that is)

We can name the trophy after Andy Reid ...that's his level of success in 14 years. The last 8 seasons 3 playoff wins total.

Siri on his 5th season... all double digit wins so far...playoffs every year so far... much tougher schedule this year at 8-4... 6 playoff wins ...two trips vs only one for Andy...and actually winning it in BTA fashion.

But hey... we all set different standards i guess.

8 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why I’m all for shaking things up if we can’t get crap going vs the chargers and yes that includes Hurts.

If Patullo/Siri are the massive issues then turning to the backup QB will only highlight that more.

Same with tank he has found success in limited touches when Saquon can’t seem to get anything going.

Goal is to win games not cater to the high paid guys and if they are not getting it done time to make some Changes

Good luck, the QB ain't going anywhere. Lurie can't have that.

8 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

"I honestly don’t know how much of the Eagles’ issues lie at the feet of Patullo and how much of it is him being overmatched. In ‘23, Brian Johnson appeared to have the same issues Patullo is having, and it’s fair to wonder if Patullo is being handcuffed by what his boss and quarterback want to do in a similar way to Johnson. It’s also fair to note that Kellen Moore was an experienced playcaller and was able to navigate Sirianni and Hurts better than Patullo has.”

Just an interesting take on Patullo and why not sure a young play caller will ever work here for us

Here is another take.. a healthy Mailata, Dickerson, Cam, Becton and Lane....can make the old lady at the library look like a great play caller. Just saying, I really think that people underestimate how elite and dominant our 2024 OL was...which included the 2 depth guys Steen and Fred. The health and ability to rest the starters and replace them last year is an underrated aspect. Not only do you take a step back losing Becton ..but also a step back from day 1 forcing Dickerson to play and not heal up. Same with Cam.

8 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

He has never been out of the O not in the entire time he has been HC why are you delusional on this front….

Even with Stiechen and Moore majority of our concepts were the exact same as when Siri was calling plays and Johnson and now Patullo

Won't change until different QB ... idk why this gets missed.

8 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Now there are reports out there that Hurts doesn’t want to do designed runs(his biggest asset his legs), reports were swirling prior to Moore that Hurts wasn’t a fan of pre-snap motion either.

Now we have this inexperience OC who has to deal with **** Siri wants and the QB wants all while the fans want to scapegoat him instead of looking at the real issues the HC/QB

OMG... someone finally gets it!!!!

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I DK think it’s time to have old John Ruynan come in an tell out guys it’s time to get a little dirty! Need our guys to play with hunger and fire!

Imagine Runyan here with how Hurts is playing....agree, he would be the guy to say exactly what AJ doesn't want to.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right his BIG attribute was his ability to run(best on broken plays not called ones) and now that he got the big money, he decides he's not going to use the asset that got him the big money. He's not even that effective at the tush push. As of now I agree, Hurts is OVERPAID. He's making a great case to become a BU after he's done here unless he start earning his paycheck

This is why running QBs are not long term solutions. " dual threat" is not dual without running. You take that aspect away...look at Russell Wilson... not the same...it's not an ideal way to play a long career...now you have a super stan like Ham...." the goal is to get him to the playoffs healthy...etc...and basically saying he is ok with the QB not using a major part of his game....Oops...I mean THE MAJOR PART OF HIS GAME....safe to say, the part of his game that is the reason he made it into the league.

" No Mas you just don't appreciate a dual threat QB" and " the goal is fo get him to the playoffs healthy "

So the classic Ham contradiction of himself.

For me... I have always thought Hurts isn't getting another contract here...let him run and run now while he can. Maximize these next 2 or three years... he won't be the QB 2029...just a matter if he makes it that long.

And Siri will get fired without a chance with a new QB... he will go down with the ship like Doug did with Wentz. Unless Howie and Lurie change their ways and realize the situation and act on it.

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