1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I realize you only consider one step thinking approach

No you do, you aren't open to anyone other than Hurts. Right now Hurts is playing like total JV, but you won't open your eyes. Nothing to be done about that. I talk about TEAM,you talk about Hurts

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How does one design an O when the players aren't performing?

First by developing a scheme. Then doing whatever it takes to get them executing together at highest possible production.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We need an O designed for our guys specifically to thrive in. Any O that doesn’t work with Hurts…isn’t the O we need or are looking for.

Well if Siri and Patullo are the issue they won’t be designing the O for Hurts and this O next year regardless.

Need a spark this season and if we can’t get something going on O for a 3rd straight week yea id seriously consider a shakeup and nothing is a bigger shakeup and wake up call then QB change.

And im not even blaming hurts or saying it is permanent just like 08 1 half of play and hopefully wakes the team up like in 08 with Mcnabb

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How does one design an O when the players aren't performing?

Explain Caleb Williams going from some judging as a bust to this season leading the top seed playing well?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But they have a crucial job to perform.

So do the highly paid players

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No you do, you aren't open to anyone other than Hurts. Right now Hurts is playing like total JV, but you won't open your eyes. Nothing to be done about that. I talk about TEAM,you talk about Hurts

Actually feel its opposite. I talk about whole unit being on the same page together.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Explain Caleb Williams going from some judging as a bust to this season leading the top seed playing well?

Full season in the nfl with a full nfl offseason and vastly improved OL goes a long to pair with Ben Johnson

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

First by developing a scheme. Then doing whatever it takes to get them executing together at highest possible production.

So you would be open to starting McKee to see if that works? It's the only thing we haven't tried yet?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Well if Siri and Patullo are the issue they won’t be designing the O for Hurts and this O next year regardless.

Need a spark this season and if we can’t get something going on O for a 3rd straight week yea id seriously consider a shakeup and nothing is a bigger shakeup and wake up call then QB change.

And im not even blaming hurts or saying it is permanent just like 08 1 half of play and hopefully wakes the team up like in 08 with Mcnabb

They’ve been the issue…since the very beggining. Over and over given chances others couldn’t dream they’d ever be given.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Explain Caleb Williams going from some judging as a bust to this season leading the top seed playing well?

How did Hurts do it?? Or any QB that finally gets the supporting cast they need?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Full season in the nfl with a full nfl offseason and vastly improved OL goes a long to pair with Ben Johnson

So you just believing his complete turnaround and the Bears leading the NFC because of personnel. I don’t see them as so clearly the most talented team.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

They’ve been the issue…since the very beggining. Over and over given chances others couldn’t dream they’d ever be given.

Then making QB change at half damages nothing if we are playing terrible if anything only proves your point more

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you would be open to starting McKee to see if that works? It's the only thing we haven't tried yet?

I’m completely against that crap

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you would be open to starting McKee to see if that works? It's the only thing we haven't tried yet?

Absolutely not…worst case scenario and move that could be made.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Explain Caleb Williams going from some judging as a bust to this season leading the top seed playing well?

Got their running game cranking,makes it much easier for the QB. You have to get one going to get the other going. We aren't doing either one. If the running game is not working the QB needs to make the throws to pull the D back, you already know this stuff

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So you just believing his complete turnaround and the Bears leading the NFC because of personnel. I don’t see them as so clearly the most talented team.

Good OL play makes massive difference ask hurts and Saquon last year v this year

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you would be open to starting McKee to see if that works? It's the only thing we haven't tried yet?

We very specifically need an O that works for Hurts…if it doesn’t…but for us.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m completely against that crap

What do we have to lose exactly? Hurts can't see the field. he has ONE read and that's IT!!!

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How did Hurts do it?? Or any QB that finally gets the supporting cast they need?

You also just claim personnel. Bears overwhelmingly the most talented team and you predicted they’d be the top seed this season right now, right?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We very specifically need an O that works for Hurts…if it doesn’t…but for us.

We don't have last years O line. Hurts can't adjust what do you suggest???

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You also just claim personnel. Bears overwhelmingly the most talented team and you predicted they’d be the top seed this season right now, right?

Rams are the top seed at 9-2

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Then making QB change at half damages nothing if we are playing terrible if anything only proves your point more

All this has been damaging. Infuriating. Just give our team a qualified O mind. Simple

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You also just claim personnel. Bears overwhelmingly the most talented team and you predicted they’d be the top seed this season right now, right?

I predicted we would lose this game yes(see Matt's spreadsheet)

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Got their running game cranking,makes it much easier for the QB. You have to get one going to get the other going. We aren't doing either one. If the running game is not working the QB needs to make the throws to pull the D back, you already know this stuff

We stuck with a rushing game when it wasn’t working…it actually was working when we’ve abandoned it though.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

All this has been damaging. Infuriating. Just give our team a qualified O mind. Simple

Stop fumbling, and picks. make tackles. Football 101. Simple