2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

My eyes tell me he throws a great long ball but lacks the accuracy in the short to midrange game

If he's not a threat to run defenses don't worry about the passing game

Granted last game Brown and Patullo didn't do him any favors

That last int in OT it looked like he panicked> It was 1st down, wasn't it?

I don't see this great long ball...I see him putting air under it and his WRs having ti make contested catches because of it.

And which plays specifically are your complaints vs Patullo? 21-40... 4 picks and some drops... what else do he have to do... can't have this EVERY PLAY!

Even the RPO the wrong read is being made

49 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Idk don’t throw the ball into triple coverage horrible play by the QB…. Even without the DT dropping was still a bad read into tight double coverage

You blame QB for a bad read…when the DC predicted our play and dropped a DT back to stop it. He dropped his DT

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hurts also said he didn’t do a good job communicating what he wanted done on that play it’s also on the QB to get on the right page with his playmakers.

Absolutely. Whole unit needs to work as one. Something that’s been missing badly this season.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So are we just going to act like Hurts shouldn’t have seen a what 300 pound DL sitting right at rh 1st down maker…. Mind you Hurts is just starting to throw the ball…. This is 100% on the QB just a terrible read completely not seeing a 300 pound DL

But the problem stems from how did the DC know to call and do exactly this? The much bigger issue.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And it isn’t even like he is being rushed to make the pass he has a relatively good pocket

It’s a timing play…as soon as AJ finishes his wiggle gotta hit him. That was the playcall…which Chargers predicted.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So in the car today listening to 2 different stations.

Ike Reese show had Jaws as the guest analyst... he was ripping Hurts pretty good and he is a huge Hurts fan. Apparently this week the guys are really calling out the misreads and bad decisions by Hurts. Multiple analysts have said this week was the best scheme wise with the different concepts used.

A poll was done... more people answered than usual. The question " would you trade Jalen Hurts and TWO 1ST round picks to Cincy for Joe Burrow"

The poll results... 50.3% yes. 49.7% no

Joe burrow is interesting…but he did come up short in the SB. Injured all the time. Burrow is the one guy I consider trading straight up for Hurts. But nah

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yup the wide open Dotson if only the QB didn’t throw right to the DT right in front of his face held the ball half second longer but yea it isn’t an excuse for Hurts

Wasn’t it third and two? That was the playcall and move…to convert first down. Not every moment is the play to go for it.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

2 turnovers on the same play is crushing it?? yeah, crushing our chances to win

This wasn’t the playcall to crucify Hurts over.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Watched Acho break down on the bad plays thought he do well even mentioned Hurts patting the ball on one of the interceptions likely cueing the DB.

Acho did break down lot of the good passes Hurts had as well the one dot to AJ in the EZ that was dropped

Acho wasn’t known as that knowledgable of a defender even

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We need to win 3 of the next 4. I have little confidence vs Buffalo

For what reasoning? Curious

4 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

My mind has been open and i have avoided criticizing Hurts but 50% passing for the past 2 games? Seriously?

Maybe you should open your mind

Fair enough…feels like you did consider an alternate view point. I try to always have an open mind and listen/consider everything. Just see it very differently. Exactly why I was so upset we went down this path again.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Maybe Lurie just playing it close to the vest but doesn’t sound like he is considering making a coaching change after the season even if we don’t right the ship.

Firing Patullo is just a scapegoat move

At some point it has to be the HC or the QB moved and seems like we are to scared to figure out who the real issue is.

We’ve known the real issue in 2021 at 2-5

4 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

My eyes tell me he throws a great long ball but lacks the accuracy in the short to midrange game

If he's not a threat to run defenses don't worry about the passing game

Granted last game Brown and Patullo didn't do him any favors

That last int in OT it looked like he panicked> It was 1st down, wasn't it?

I agree he forced it under the pressure of having to score TD. Still question why that defender could be near enough to do that. I mean what play design features that? Shouldn’t there be more spacing…like much more?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I agree he forced it under the pressure of having to score TD. Still question why that defender could be near enough to do that. I mean what play design features that? Shouldn’t there be more spacing…like much more?

Still he had to put more zip on that pass to get it there

Who can we point towards as playing great on O this season?

Holy crap TJ Watt i can’t see being happy at all with the Steelers. Dry needling at the Team facility collapsed his lung.

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Who’s job would it be to develop our franchise QB?

He was developed(see SB ring). Then he decided he was going to rip Howie off, take it easy, not risk himself and sell his team out by removing the attribute that got him the big money, let everyone carry him, MAYBE into the playoffs, where he MAYBE will decide to play. The early wins were his surrounding cast carrying his sorry ass, then 3 weeks ago they got wind of his side deal and now have also decided that they aren't going to put themselves out there either. Why bust your ass and risk injury for a QB who is not going to do that either? I wouldn't. I would do what Hurts does, the very minimum, go through the motions, no risk. I get paid either way The "don't score" offense is working really well because no one GIVES a ish because their "leader" Is no longer one. The D plays because they still have PRIDE and are not led by a QUITTER

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s a timing play…as soon as AJ finishes his wiggle gotta hit him. That was the playcall…which Chargers predicted.

Hurts won't run,just sit guys in he passing lanes LOL

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For what reasoning? Curious

About what?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Fair enough…feels like you did consider an alternate view point. I try to always have an open mind and listen/consider everything. Just see it very differently. Exactly why I was so upset we went down this path again.

The path of your never ending agenda?? If you had the open mind you claim you would understand Hurts STINKS and is a SELLOUT

predicting over 30 mile per hour gusts for the game I was seeing

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

3rd and 2….Chargers DC perfectly predicts our play and move by dropping his DT right back into tip to stop it. That’s fantastic job by their DC! He exactly predicted and countered perfectly. That’s not so much on Hurts. Not an ounce of shame for any QB that happens to.

Say what? The DT is how big? Certainly cant miss him in a BLUE jersey RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. Don’t throw the damn ball there! That is 110% on Hurts! You have lost your mind if you think otherwise. I showed this to Coach Dirk Koetter….former Buccaneers Head Coach…whom I played golf with today. He LAUGHED and asked, what "clown” wrote that? The QB film time the next day would have been WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU DOING THROWING THE BALL THERE NO MATTER WHAT THE PLAY CALL WAS?

Three choices:

Find read #2.

Run.

Take a sack.

You do NOT throw the ball there, PERIOD!

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For what reasoning? Curious

Assume Dallas wins out. Must go at least 3-1 or you lose the division. Pretty simple math

@mattwill

Eagles 31 Raiders 13

Who the heck knows what will happen with this team. Defense balls out and scores a TD!

1 hour ago, Senhorcook said:

Three choices:

Find read #2.

Run.

Take a sack.

A) he's back to 1 read.......except B) he made a side deal he's not going to run, or if he does he's not going to risk any impact at all, he will fall down first C) the best option for a QUITTER/sellout

2 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Coach Dirk Koetter….former Buccaneers Head Coach

Tell him to call Howie LOL