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Boyz really need OL. If we do go that way, would be fun to jump in front of them AGAIN!

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https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/cb/all-colleges/all-statuses/2024?page=1  I would personally not give up the draft capital for Mitchell. he looks great on paper. He rates out on PFF here as the top guy but STILL a starter in year 2. That's fine,not knocking the kid.if he fell to 22 I would consider him,but JMO he isn't worth a move up. he hasn't played against the top schools,so these "explosive" numbers are inflated in my view. And if this kid busts out, Howie will never take another DB, until 6 guys are carrying him from the hearse. I'm sure everyone else will be gung ho, but that's a big lift for maybe the highest risk CB in the round 1 scenario. If he's there at 22 it's different for ME PERSONALLY than giving up things to make that high of a lift

 

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https://utrockets.com/sports/football/schedule/2023  Here was the "brutal" Toledo schedule. Just sayin(and that's Miami of Ohio not Miami,FL lol)

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16 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think this is overblown. Not sure he’s really the top WR even in his own class frankly. But he’s a very safe High Floor prospect.

uneducated

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35 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just PO,I don't think Mitchell fits here well,and well, Toledo was not exactly playing any powerhouse clubs. Moving up for a small school guy is adding even more risk

Howie should know by now speed is not the only parameter. Maybe he wants him to cover his other round 1 disaster pick Reagor

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https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/have-the-eagles-drafted-better-in-the-2nd-round-than-the-1st/580508/ Once again what if we traded back out of round 1 altogether(or down into the 30's). Me and a friend had this discussion. You may or may not get a "STUD", but you're going to fix alot of spots with excellent solid prospects and get additional picks for more than adequate back ups in an overly stacked draft class. The world would not actually end with this strategy 🤣

 

45 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/cb/all-colleges/all-statuses/2024?page=1  I would personally not give up the draft capital for Mitchell. he looks great on paper. He rates out on PFF here as the top guy but STILL a starter in year 2. That's fine,not knocking the kid.if he fell to 22 I would consider him,but JMO he isn't worth a move up. he hasn't played against the top schools,so these "explosive" numbers are inflated in my view. And if this kid busts out, Howie will never take another DB, until 6 guys are carrying him from the hearse. I'm sure everyone else will be gung ho, but that's a big lift for maybe the highest risk CB in the round 1 scenario. If he's there at 22 it's different for ME PERSONALLY than giving up things to make that high of a lift

 

Obviously you know I’ve been super high on Quinyon. He sure did go to a small school. But then he backed it up dominating drills designed to make WR look good at the Senior Bowl. He’s a stud!

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35 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

dominating drills

Drills may or may not translate to actual play. This would be an uneducated assumption especially with a small school player who hasn't even faced the best competition at the college level. Going from covering the WR from Ball state,is different than covering Lamb. I would rather have the guy that had to cover Harrison

Small schools debates are interesting for sure the obvious is they don’t always play against the best talent but on the flip side they don’t have the best supporting cast either.

Even in the secondary if you have elite pass rushers and S over the top can aid in a massive way to the outside CB.

I don’t truly have an opinion on Mitchell either way but he has to be doing something right even multiple teams are reportedly high on him high enough they are willing to move up to get him. 

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As I said if he fell to 22,maybe,but  move a up and losing draft capital in my opinion would be crazy based on one days "drills".for a guy that has yet to face any serious competition. Howie is setting himself up for another Reagor pick. I would not personally do it. I would take Brock Bowers before this guy

Just to add more to the rumor mill leading up to tomorrow draft also rumors going around we are interested in trading up for a WR or TE Bowers 

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1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Small schools debates are interesting for sure the obvious is they don’t always play against the best talent but on the flip side they don’t have the best supporting cast either.

Even in the secondary if you have elite pass rushers and S over the top can aid in a massive way to the outside CB.

I don’t truly have an opinion on Mitchell either way but he has to be doing something right even multiple teams are reportedly high on him high enough they are willing to move up to get him. 

I never said he would be a bad choice,but it's lot more "blind faith" for a small schooler than a guy who has been battle tested over a solid college season. At 22,I could see it but giving up assets for a higher risk failure just compounds the failure. So that is my opinion about it 

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1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Just to add more to the rumor mill leading up to tomorrow draft also rumors going around we are interested in trading up for a WR or TE Bowers 

yes I posted that(see above). IDK why we would move for a WR? Who are we replacing? The top guys won't want to run slot routes for peanuts. Bowers is another story,that would make me happy

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

yes I posted that(see above). IDK why we would move for a WR? Who are we replacing? The top guys won't want to run slot routes for peanuts. Bowers is another story,that would make me happy

In a stacked class,if you can't find a WR at pick 22,you need to replace all your scouts LOL

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Bowers would make this offense nearly unstoppable. I can play QB, and I will do it for 1/4 salary 🤣

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As I sad before Howie loves to move up high,then move back again, fleecing 2 teams going both directions

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

never said he would be a bad choice,but it's lot more "blind faith" for a small schooler than a guy who has been battle tested over a solid college season.

We have nfl scouts we should have educated guesses on any player big or small shouldn’t be blind faith on any of them lol.

I don’t have an opinion on Mitchell haven’t watch enough of him to have one if hope our scouts have. Not just 2023 games but his entire career plus senior bowl , drills, workouts etc. 

Think what is save to assume though is the eagles are interested in trading up 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bowers would make this offense nearly unstoppable. I can play QB, and I will do it for 1/4 salary 🤣

Would he even get on the field? Can he run as a slot guy or Ertz back in the day? 
 

He obviously isn’t going to start over Geodart 

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Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Think what is save to assume though is the eagles are interested in trading up 

Yeah,seems like a sold rumor and now everyone arguing who they are moving for

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2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Would he even get on the field? Can he run as a slot guy or Ertz back in the day? 
 

He obviously isn’t going to start over Geodart 

The 1/2 punch. We had Ertz/Goedert. After Goedert showed he could be the 1 we traded Ertz in the middle of the night. I'm sure Bowers could do the same. Bowers is the next Gronk 

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Howie moves around,that's not a big surprise. Up down,he will move to get guys he wants and add capital. The media acts like this is some astounding story they have to tell. like it's never happened before

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bowers is the next Gronk 

I mean I’d pump the breaks on this lol…. Gronk was 6’6 270 pounds was a dominate blocker and nearly unstoppable pass catcher…. Could playing as the inline TE or flexed out.

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