April 24, 20241 yr There must be some sort of flow chart teams us - if this happens we do this. If we can get this trade we get this or we do this.
April 24, 20241 yr Author 10 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: We have nfl scouts we should have educated guesses on any player big or small shouldn’t be blind faith on any of them lol. I don’t have an opinion on Mitchell haven’t watch enough of him to have one if hope our scouts have. Not just 2023 games but his entire career plus senior bowl , drills, workouts etc. IDK you have vids of him vs less than top rate WR's and you have a day of drills,so part of it is blind faith that the drills translate in being able to cover higher rated talent. We all know every pick is a crapshoot of "best guesses". I'm not opposed to getting him,but let him fall to us and let someone else make that leap of faith. You may feel differently. Bowers has already been tested in games played vs the top coverage college schools. Seems less of a risk to me
April 24, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: IDK you have vids of him ve less than top rte WR's and you have a day of drills,so part of it is blind faith that the drills translate in being able to cover higher rated talent. We all know wvwey pick is crapshoot of "best guesses". I'm no opposed to getting him,but let him fall to us and let someone else make that leap of faith. You may feel differently They have way more than a day of drills though…. They have the entire senior bowl practices the games, private workouts, pro day, combine, plus all the games. Again should be educated guess on any player big or small. Lot more info for scouts, GM, teams etc on players then any of us fans are going to have.
April 24, 20241 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: They have way more than a day of drills though…. They have the entire senior bowl practices the games, private workouts, pro day, combine, plus all the games. Again should be educated guess on any player big or small. Lot more info for scouts, GM, teams etc on players then any of us fans are going to have. I'm not Howie. We already know he is averse to taking DB's even if they fall to us. So it's difficult for me to think he would give up assets to make this move he is already averse to. I guess we'll know in 33 hours LOL. Could also be a smoke screen to free up someone else(like Bowers or a top O lineman)
April 24, 20241 yr Author Just now, mjkline1958 said: Lots mocking Bowers 10 to the Jets, the rest have him going 10-15 He'd be a great help to Arod,the ancient one lol
April 24, 20241 yr Author If you move early you are setting yourself up for another team to jump you for the same player
April 24, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: We already know he is averse to taking DB's Don’t think Howie is all that averse to taking DBs we have taken numerous over the course of Howie time as GM. Jarrett, Rowe, Sidney, Douglas, Brown Feel like when people wanted to say we didn’t draft WRs we drafted guys we just never drafted the position well. DB feels the same way right now
April 24, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Don’t think Howie is all that averse to taking DBs we have taken numerous over the course of Howie time as GM. Jarrett, Rowe, Sidney, Douglas, Brown Feel like when people wanted to say we didn’t draft WRs we drafted guys we just never drafted the position well. DB feels the same way right now Zero in round 1 and now you are adding LOSS of assets for him to do it now? I just don't see it when you can make less of a lift for DeJean or Arnold if you want a DB in round 1 AT ALL,which has never happened. Like i said I'm not against getting him,it's not worth losing assets in a stacked draft to me. maybe it is for Howie IDK. Bowers would have more bang for the buck if we decided to go up that high
April 24, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Zero in round 1 And???? Sidney Brown was the odds on favorite to be our round 1 pick until injury the we got him round 2. If Brown worked out and Douglas played well would we be complaining that we didn’t spend round 1 picks on the guys? no the only reason we say we are averse to taking DBs is because the picks we have made have not worked out
April 24, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Zero in round 1 Don't you think that part of the reason was how the board fell in those particular years. The reports are we wanted Surtain.
April 24, 20241 yr Author Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said: And???? Sidney Brown was the odds on favorite to be our round 1 pick until injury the we got him round 2. If Brown worked out and Douglas played well would we be complaining that we didn’t spend round 1 picks on the guys? no the only reason we say we are averse to taking DBs is because the picks we have made have not worked out That's why we took him because of the value.IDK if we would have taken him in 1
April 24, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Don't you think that part of the reason was how the board fell in those particular years. The reports are we wanted Surtain. Reports aren't picks. If we wanted him so bad we could have gotten him? But you're right. so what sets this kid SO far apart from the other 2 in the conversation that we would give up assets in stacked draft???
April 24, 20241 yr Author Seems the 1,2,3 ranked DB's are pretty close to me. Bowers on the other hand is worlds apart from #2
April 24, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: But you're right. so what sets this kid SO far apart from the other 2 in the conversation that we would give up assets in stacked draft??? Would have to ask Howie and co. But of it could be Vic. Guy does seem to have a track record of getting great play from his CBs if he is saying he really likes Mitchell could be a factor
April 24, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Would have to ask Howie and co. But of it could be Vic. Guy does seem to have a track record of getting great play from his CBs if he is saying he really likes Mitchell could be a factor They are the pros,we are just amateurs,so who knows. Was only stating my opinions
April 24, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Reports aren't picks. If we wanted him so bad we could have gotten him? But you're right. so what sets this kid SO far apart from the other 2 in the conversation that we would give up assets in stacked draft??? Idk...I don't really care...my point is that I don't think they are against taking a CB if the situation calls for it
April 24, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Would have to ask Howie and co. But of it could be Vic. Guy does seem to have a track record of getting great play from his CBs if he is saying he really likes Mitchell could be a factor Apparently the Toledo coach and SIRI are close. College roommates or something.??
April 24, 20241 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Apparently the Toledo coach and SIRI are close. College roommates or something.?? Could be part of the influence as well
April 24, 20241 yr Michael Irvin nor collinsworthless are on any of the announcer lists on any channel https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-draft-announcers-2023/
April 24, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Seems the 1,2,3 ranked DB's are pretty close to me. Bowers on the other hand is worlds apart from #2 I gotta be honest... I can't see Bowers getting past the Jets. Just seems like the move for them at the moment with Arod there. I really don't think the Eagles trade up that far. Rumors with Denver at 12... I can't see it. I think reports are all over the place..because the obvious reason is the Eagles are at the mercy of how the draft falls.
April 24, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said: Michael Irvin nor collinsworthless are on any of the announcer lists on any channel https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-draft-announcers-2023/ YAY!!!!
April 24, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Rumors with Denver at 12... I can't see it That's what I was responding to and especially for Mitchell. That's a big lift when you still have Arnold and DeJean on the board
April 24, 20241 yr Author 8 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Idk...I don't really care...my point is that I don't think they are against taking a CB if the situation calls for it I hope so,we need the infusion. My point was a small lift for one of the other 2 I could see,but this is a stacked draft ad we're damn good at getting round 2 impact players,so why get 2 when you can have 3 possibly?
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