1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So now we have to replace OL coach to go along with us likely replacing the QB coach interviewed Greg Olson(LV interim HC) and Connor Senger AZ pass game specialist for the role apparently

Yeah not good news, people jumping ship

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Keep asking you what more you were looking to accomplish since Hurts had us lined right up for the two seed.

And I have answered you many times, a QB who is committed to playing his position not selling out for self preservation. Can you not read? Besides the drops, Hurts did nothing special vs the 9ers. Still fell down like a little girl when the team needed him to step UP and run the ball, not step back and whine. Just a horrible teammate and I hate selfish turncoats who put self before team. I will be happy to see this traitor leave. Unfortunately we are stuck with his mediocrity for now. If I told my HS coach "I don't really feel like blocking" I would have been off the team in a heartbeat. Hurts was lucky the TEAM carried him to the 3 seed. Since Hurts didn't want to get a boo boo, there was zero reason to risk everyone else to the same injury risks Hurts avoided by going for the 2 seed

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Greg Austin is the asst. OL coach has worked under Stoutland back in 2013-2015 before taking some college OL coaching jobs then spent a few seasons as an asst. OL coach with the Jags before returning as our Asst. OL coach last season.

That the in house candidate to replace Stoutland image looking at someone on the Rams/SF/GB coaching staff makes a ton of sense since they coach the OL style that would fit with Mannion who comes from that Mcvay/Shannhan system

Stoutland's "demotion" I figured was a slap in the face and I still don't understand that move, Sad to see him go. After 13 years you would think we would treat him better than that

4 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

23 Ioane G Penn St 54 Malachi Fields WR ND 68 Blake Miller T Clemson 98 Malik Muhammad CB Texas 122 Anthony Lucas Edge USC 137 Justin Joly TE NC St 151 Jack Endries TE Texas 179 Kevin Coleman WR Mizz

I can live with your first 2. IMO Blake Miller will be long gone by 68, I have Muhammad at 68. Personal opinion, I don't like any player from USC, they always seem overhyped and underperform. I'm ok with 2 TE's but would rather move up for Royer. But our mocks are both workable. Combine will re shuffle some. I have WR alot later picking up the OT from Az St in round 2. IDK what's going to happen with F Johnson,but we agree it's time to get Lanes replacement in. My other mock I have Proctor at 1,but again we both agree the right side of the line should be high priority so we think alike

All these coaching reshuffles are a little alarming. Busts up the continuity we had on the SB staff. Oh well, onward we go

As Joe pointed out, now we get to see another fail at OC as he won't be able to teach Hurts a thing. Mannion will have to revert to college boy ball. I wish him well, but I think he will get frustrated too as I assume Hurts isn't going to run for the remainder of his contract. Why should he? He already got paid and got his trophy. He's not hungry anymore

Holy crap…Stout is out!

54 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

As Joe pointed out, now we get to see another fail at OC as he won't be able to teach Hurts a thing. Mannion will have to revert to college boy ball. I wish him well, but I think he will get frustrated too as I assume Hurts isn't going to run for the remainder of his contract. Why should he? He already got paid and got his trophy. He's not hungry anymore

It’s all about developing our OC to take over as our HC with Hurts and the new O staff

Stoutland now gone. Something smells here guys. Not sure about this coaching situation.

48 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s all about developing our OC to take over as our HC with Hurts and the new O staff

How do you "develop" an OC with a CEO HC? Who is going to develop him?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Holy crap…Stout is out!

He did do much for this team,then he was demoted. I don't get it. SMH

49 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

Stoutland now gone. Something smells here guys. Not sure about this coaching situation.

Very weird to me also

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

As Joe pointed out, now we get to see another fail at OC as he won't be able to teach Hurts a thing. Mannion will have to revert to college boy ball. I wish him well, but I think he will get frustrated too as I assume Hurts isn't going to run for the remainder of his contract. Why should he? He already got paid and got his trophy. He's not hungry anymore

Idk..maybe this is the guy that can teach him how to read a defense and win without having to run ? It is what it is.

53 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

Stoutland now gone. Something smells here guys. Not sure about this coaching situation.

Conspiracy theory- get the team to tank over the next 2 years, while getting alot of replacement rookies in, let all the high price contracts expire-get the #1 draft pick and take a QB in round 1 . Ham should have a field day with this one HAHAHAHA

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Idk..maybe this is the guy that can teach him how to read a defense and win without having to run ? It is what it is.

Maybe, I hope that's it. I did watch a little(fake) pro bowl. Hurts was running all over which he didn't do vs SF because there was no threat in the PB. Looked like the guy we paid big money to that pulled a Houdini

When I heard the words "complete autonomy" what I actually heard was "sink or swim"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/derrick-henry-publicly-pushes-for-eagles-aj-brown-trade/ar-AA1VGcRs?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=24d94faa77284016e7cb55bf675c86ed&ei=12

Stoutland apparently said that learning Mannion scheme was one part of why opting to step down since it’s completely different blocking wise from what he does.

So the one positive I think we can take from this is we seem serious about implementing Mannion O which falls under the Mcvay/Shanahan tree

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

When I heard the words "complete autonomy" what I actually heard was "sink or swim"

It does seem like a sink or swim season for Hurts sounds like we aren’t looking to cater to Hurts this season with a dumbed down O committing fully to Mannion scheme

20 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

It does seem like a sink or swim season for Hurts sounds like we aren’t looking to cater to Hurts this season with a dumbed down O committing fully to Mannion scheme

Well he couldn't handle Moore's so yeah we'll see. I'm also thinking we're going to change how our TE's are used. maybe less blocking more weapon which seems to be the trend with the young TE's

14 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

23 Ioane G Penn St 54 Malachi Fields WR ND 68 Blake Miller T Clemson 98 Malik Muhammad CB Texas 122 Anthony Lucas Edge USC 137 Justin Joly TE NC St 151 Jack Endries TE Texas 179 Kevin Coleman WR Mizz

Alot of updating coming yet but try this one 23-Ioane-G-PSU 54-zion Young-edge-Mizz 68 Malik Muhammed-CB-Tex 98- Omar Cooper-WR-Indiana 122-JC Davis-OT-Illinois 137-DaeQuon Wright-TE-Ole Miss 151-Aiden Fisher-ILB-Indiana 179-Drew Allar-QB-PSU 210-Kaelon Black-RB- Indiana UDFA-Dametrius Crownover-OT-TX A&M

This kid is too shifty, Hurts would never find him 🤣 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KzBEY7I2mw

Omar shows some top rate route cuts in the above vid. This kid growing on me. I would even move up a little if I had to, to get him. Still like Fields too. I like Omars build,almost like a RB so he gets alot of YAC even if he has to bash through traffic

BTW- Drew Allar is from Medina ,Oh which is close to where I grew up LOL