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3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Think it’s a pretty save assumption we go with 3 WRs lol unless we drafted a TE like Bowers.

It all comes down to personal I’m not just going to run 2 TEs just for the sake of running 2 TEs just like I wouldn’t run 3 WR just to run 3 WRs it’s based on my personal.

It goes steps further into how likely would we be to draft Bowers. Moore has preferred this all along. Chargers clearly highlighting how 12 personnel was not going to be displayed as much with Moore coming in taking over the O. 

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Moore has preferred this all along

When has Moore had TEs lol Moore leaning on 3 WRs because idk he had 3 WRs and no TEs isn’t saying Moore prefers anything it’s him utilizing the players he has 

You would think coaches will favor using what personnel they have at their disposal. But then they bring in players. So that goes into it as well. McCarthy said something about how he butted heads with Moore over the aggressive approach. McCarthy said he favored a more conservative way of going about business. McCarthy stating he didn’t care if it meant less possessions per game even. McCarty got some dig in about just caring about wins and Championships.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You would think coaches will favor using what personnel they have at their disposal. But then they bring in players. So that goes into it as well. McCarthy said something about how he butted heads with Moore over the aggressive approach. McCarthy said he favored a more conservative way of going about business. McCarthy stating he didn’t care if it meant less possessions per game even. McCarty got some dig in about just caring about wins and Championships.

And none of this is Moore going on record saying he prefers 3 WRs again I just want the actual quote from Kellen Moore himself since he is on the record 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

When has Moore had TEs lol Moore leaning on 3 WRs because idk he had 3 WRs and no TEs isn’t saying Moore prefers anything it’s him utilizing the players he has 

In Dallas and LA 12 personnel usage went down with Moore versus previous seasons.

Did we keep Stoll? The guy has played a ton of snaps for us…while being a dirt cheap option. Nope. Stoll seemed to even know better than to hold out waiting to return. Kellen Moore coming in…he had to accept dirt cheap pay…not for  a home town discount to remain…but to leave.

Whole different O coming to town…be ready for that.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

In Dallas and LA 12 personnel usage went down with Moore versus previous seasons.

The Cowboys used 12 personnel 119 times less than they did in the previous season

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/31/12-personnel-cowboys-2023/

But the 12 personnel went down when Moore was OC 

Chargers were 17th in 2022 using 12 personnel but it’s used less under Moore is what you said 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Chargers were 17th in 2022 using 12 personnel but it’s used less under Moore is what you said 

I always could be incorrect. But Moore wants to force more of a fast break O adding more snaps per game

But McCarthy brought this to Moore in Dallas. They clearly butted heads. Moore lowered 12 personnel with taking over in dallas.

10 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

https://sumersports.com/teams/offensive/personnel-tendency/
 

Chargers were 7th in using the 12 personnel last year but nope Moore doesn’t use it 

I’m using your own chart reading Chargers were 13th in 12 personnel last season.

I have no idea about that website. Can’t verify it’s anything legit. But when I sorted by snaps it said Chargers were 13th in usage

Chargers were 6th in 12 personnel usage the season before. This is just using your website.

2022 Chargers had 1240 snaps in 12 personnel

2023 Chargers had 1060 snaps in 12 personnel 

14 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Chargers were 17th in 2022 using 12 personnel but it’s used less under Moore is what you said 

Don’t think you are using your website correctly here

Cowboys were 4th in 12 personnel usage last season after booting Moore

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2022 Chargers had 1240 snaps in 12 personnel

2023 Chargers had 1060 snaps in 12 personnel 

So the snap numbers is the total number of snaps the chargers O took 

Then ran 1060 of that 249 which was 23.5% of the snaps in 2023

2022 had a total play count of 1240 of which 242 snaps were out of 12 which is why the rate is lower at 19.5% 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Don’t think you are using your website correctly here

No I don’t think you are using it correctly 

55 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This would be shocking news to me

Over 22 years already for the Linc... still time.  Apparently there are things undesirable or improvements needed from the Linc... I believe the dome allows them to host more events and make more $$$.     You know the owner here isn't against that.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We brought in a legit second TE

Aside from the monster fantasy game he has against me when Baltimore decided not to cover or tackle him a few years ago....idk how legit he is if we lost Goedert.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just pretty foolish to trade back for one specific player. A position you can. Identifying a grouping of four players being ranked similar at a position group you can make the educated move towards.

How do you trade back for a player?   You can't...you don't know if he will be there?   Who trades back for a player?

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No I don’t think you are using it correctly 

I’ve never used it before..so it’s possible. I just put a filter on 12 personnel

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Cowboys were 4th in 12 personnel usage last season after booting Moore

Can break down cowboys as well for you 

2022 under Moore- cowboys ran a total of 1275 play of which 285 were out of the 12 for a grand total of 22.4%
 

2023- 1090 play 166 in the 12 or 15.2% of there snaps 

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