5 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Sorry for the rant last night but nothing pisses me off more than players getting huge contracts then thinking they don't have to perform.

Having said that after a night to sleep on it i realized life is too short to care about this team. There are too many fun things to do

I'm done

See you next year.

Still my team win or lose. Depends on if we have a fire sale now or if Howie sticks it out and waits for injured players to return. Last night hurt for sure

54 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Next question that has to be asked when do we start shopping players? Lots of guys on final year of their contracts, some older guys maybe we want to move off of as well as we look for the rebuild over the next 2 years

Who would you look to trade?

Ojomo, Goedert, Woolen would be the 3 on last year that I think could bring value... maybe Steen?

Those 4..the question needs to be asked does it really put the team at a physical disadvantage in trying to see who else can develop around them?

Steen ...always a risk unloading OL... Goedert we suck behind him. Ojomo... we need depth there could cause Carter and Davis to play too much ( plus are we trying to keep him?)

Woolen I think easiest to say goodbye.

The next group ...Barkley and Baun, 2 years left. I'm OK unloading them but that leaves 2 year voids...idk.

Those are the 6 I can see....anyone else you have in mind?

59 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Next question that has to be asked when do we start shopping players? Lots of guys on final year of their contracts, some older guys maybe we want to move off of as well as we look for the rebuild over the next 2 years

It definitely comes into play if we lose the next 1 or 2. It's interesting situation

29 minutes ago, PoconoDon said:

There's a lot of work to be done. We'll see how Howie approaches the rest of the year and the off season.

On a cursory pass over the defense, I see the immediate needs for 2 new Safeties as starters, 2 new LB'ers to replace Campbell (cut him) and Trotter JR (who should go to ST exclusively) and 2 new pass rushers who can play the run as well as rush the passer and skilled enough to challenge for starting jobs. That's an awful lot, but the deterioration of the roster has been significant.

On offense, an OT, an OG, and a C who can challenge for a starting position are needs, as are two TE's who can both block and leak out on a route are a must. That's also a lot. That's 6 upgrades on defense and 5 on Offense. Oh, and if he can find a legit WR with blinding speed to stretch the field, that would be a big help too. Serviceable RB's are usually available in the off season and they'll need a couple if the guys they have can't get healthy and if Saquon is gone, as may be the case.

Looks like 2 or 3 year project to me.

And do you keep a $52 mil QB during this process?

3 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i dont want to hear the weak excuses about DE's being injured. 8 tackles from one of the so-called best DT's in the league, when teams are routinely running it up the middle, is unacceptable.

They were like good swiss cheese, full of holes. I know we were trying to spot in Bark to win the game, but Pierce was ok on some runs. Bell learning on the job and not much from our TE's which is where Dullaz was weak. I figured we would exploit that.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Still my team win or lose. Depends on if we have a fire sale now or if Howie sticks it out and waits for injured players to return. Last night hurt for sure

Pick 6 now?

2 hours ago, joemas72 said:

Who on the field has " big contracts" that didn't perform? The big contracts were all injured on offense....the DTs on D and Baun did ok...they can't cover all 11 spots though.

Kick offs.... Just a bunch of young players probably lucky to be on the field if it wasn't for the injuries.

This team is the reason why the saying " you can't put lipstick on a pig" exists.

It is what it is...GB will take the lead soon for " mock draft 27"

I could probably run a mock for you on the bye week if you are desperate LMAO

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Still my team win or lose. Depends on if we have a fire sale now or if Howie sticks it out and waits for injured players to return. Last night hurt for sure

The Jets ...currently have picks 7, 10 and 12. Wow!

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I could probably run a mock for you on the bye week if you are desperate LMAO

Nah... off-season you will hsve a field day. The better the draft position the more fun you will have

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Next question that has to be asked when do we start shopping players? Lots of guys on final year of their contracts, some older guys maybe we want to move off of as well as we look for the rebuild over the next 2 years

Woolen, Steen, Goedert... would be the 3 I see in possible trades

58 minutes ago, joemas72 said:

The starters have been very good run defenders....as a unit. Right now we don't have an NFL unit... 2 of the 4 up front are practice squad level or Hunt/ The vikings guy... I keep forgetting his name.. both are hurt.

But I am patient and looking long term here... play the season out... i want to see who reacts to the adversity well and poorly. Which young guy develops. I am hoping Dickerson and the OL can stay healthy to give Kendall and all the other young guys a legit chance to show.

Then Howie needs to be honest... see if we need to cut bait with Campbell or Makuba...etc.

Work the cap to set up a very important 2 drafts.

Plus Lane did us dirty. Bell is not Lane. He was supposed to sit and learn this year, then his mentor up and quit on us, like Hurts quit on us last year by deciding he wasn't going to run with the ball and AJ quit on us because he wasn't getting his target share(and we all know how that went). Stowers is very disappointing and Mundt (Mannions "hand picked" TE) is also. The guys on D will not play at 100% if they are getting gassed every game with a disfunctional offense getting paid to do nothing. This team at full strength would be a good one, we just lost too many guys. Smitty and Bark going down and losing Lane sure hurt. Our ST is horrible as far as tackling and yesterday the tackling was horrible everywhere. Just no excuse for that. Those TD passes from Dak were actually well covered, just perfect passes from Dak. He was totally on point yesterday. Normally we can get in Daks face and rattle him(like we used to do with Eli Manning) but with no pass rush any decent QB will sit back and pick you apart and they did. So now Howie has to decide if those injured core players are worth keeping or if we sell them all off.

17 minutes ago, joemas72 said:

The Jets ...currently have picks 7, 10 and 12. Wow!

Man they are like the Browns, so bad so many years. If they draft right they could have a team next year. Miami is still hapless except for last Sunday because I put in the Jets D vs them, then of course they decide to go off and kick my fantasy arse. Wonderful

18 minutes ago, joemas72 said:

Nah... off-season you will hsve a field day. The better the draft position the more fun you will have

I'm never right. I would never have taken Lemon in round 1. But they get to see things I don't so I just have to trust them.

21 minutes ago, joemas72 said:

Woolen, Steen, Goedert... would be the 3 I see in possible trades

Grennard sucks but no one is going to pay us for him. I was so pissed at all the missed tackles. It was horrifying. Just football 101 stuff we didn't do. I can't give up on McKee yet, but if we traded him so be it. IDK who would want him. He reminds me of Bradford. You have to protect the "statue". He is not mobile. He does have much better field vision than Hurts and a decent arm. Accuracy wasn't too good,but he had to get the ball out fast, which he did.

5 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Sorry for the rant last night but nothing pisses me off more than players getting huge contracts then thinking they don't have to perform.

Having said that after a night to sleep on it i realized life is too short to care about this team. There are too many fun things to do

I'm done

See you next year.

So you're not going to be a fan? If not, I guess I will wish you luck. TC buddy