13 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Any none of them says it's Moore's offense

 

18 minutes ago, NOTW said:

He's BSing and saving face because he has no offense.

He said that last year. He said the offense in 2022 was his offense. Remember when he was calling plays in early 2022 and fans complained about the run game and lack of creativity? He gave play calling to Steichen and "Nick's offense" was not the same, and improved. 

"Nick's offense" in 2023 was nothing like 2022 except the brotherly shove. This offense under Moore will look very different. He's claiming it's his offense but watch how different it is.

The running game is Stoutland.  It's not Nick.  I am not sure what part of the offense over the last 2 seasons has been "Nick's."  What made the offense so effective in 2022 was the ability to run out of 11 personnel.  I think the shifted away from that approach and used less motion last year.  

Fangio supposedly sees this as his last coaching stop, so I  don't see him searching for drama.  He'll be demanding, but has been around enough to know the boundaries.

Not sure why Ringo isn't there; kid has a big opportunity in front of him.

 

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I liked that they were showing some motion:

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Eagles OTA Practice is over. Couple of things I noticed: Lots of motion to give the QBs some intel. Liked what I saw out of Parris Campbell. He and Isaiah Rodgers had some good battles on the outside   A.J. Brown used all over the field

If we're using pre-snap motion, then it ain't Nick's offense exclusively.

3 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Fangio supposedly sees this as his last coaching stop, so I  don't see him searching for drama.  He'll be demanding, but has been around enough to know the boundaries.

Not sure why Ringo isn't there; kid has a big opportunity in front of him.

On the flip side, I don't see him putting up with much drama either. With whatever issues some in Miami had, I think the most likely explanation is it was a case by case basis and maybe he rubbed someone the wrong way. Just the fact that it seems to be mostly DB's saying negative things feels like there was some issue somewhere that turned into a us vs him situation. 

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

 

The running game is Stoutland.  It's not Nick.  I am not sure what part of the offense over the last 2 seasons has been "Nick's."  What made the offense so effective in 2022 was the ability to run out of 11 personnel.  I think the shifted away from that approach and used less motion last year.  

There was a Twitter video last year that pointed out that once Nick was being criticized in press conferences for not using motion, the next game he had a couple plays where guys were in "motion" but all they did was leave their spot, run to another spot, then run back to the same original spot and run the play the same way. To satisfy "we used motion." 

39 minutes ago, NOTW said:

He's BSing and saving face because he has no offense.

He said that last year. He said the offense in 2022 was his offense. Remember when he was calling plays in early 2022 and fans complained about the run game and lack of creativity? He gave play calling to Steichen and "Nick's offense" was not the same, and improved. 

"Nick's offense" in 2023 was nothing like 2022 except the brotherly shove. This offense under Moore will look very different. He's claiming it's his offense but watch how different it is.

I hope you are 100% right.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

There was a Twitter video last year that pointed out that once Nick was being criticized in press conferences for not using motion, the next game he had a couple plays where guys were in "motion" but all they did was leave their spot, run to another spot, then run back to the same original spot and run the play the same way. To satisfy "we used motion." 

Yep. That was pretty funny with Nick saying at the PC he doesn't believe in "using motion just to use motion" but that's literally what they did the second half of the season. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

On the flip side, I don't see him putting up with much drama either. With whatever issues some in Miami had, I think the most likely explanation is it was a case by case basis and maybe he rubbed someone the wrong way. Just the fact that it seems to be mostly DB's saying negative things feels like there was some issue somewhere that turned into a us vs him situation. 

From an organisation culture perspective, Miami seems a kind of chilled place, so I can't see an old school sergeant major type fitting in that vibe, especially for some DBs who think they are already all that.  Philly, is a more serious place with a more serious culture.  And the DB room is a lot younger, so may not have much of a reference point....

19 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Ok

"What's OK ........ ?"

 

Put it on the list.  Great film:

 

 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

"What's OK ........ ?"

 

Put it on the list.  Great film:

 

 

Agreeing to disagree lol

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

On the flip side, I don't see him putting up with much drama either. With whatever issues some in Miami had, I think the most likely explanation is it was a case by case basis and maybe he rubbed someone the wrong way. Just the fact that it seems to be mostly DB's saying negative things feels like there was some issue somewhere that turned into a us vs him situation. 

He wanted them to study and they wanted to enjoy the Miami night life.   Miami will always be a destination city for some players.  Some can handle playing, and partying... and some can only party.  There's no surprise in the fact that they haven't done much since the 70's/early 80's.   They are a regular season only team and it hasn't mattered who the coach has been.  Consider this... Ryan Tannehill, former Miami QB, has 2 Playoff wins since leaving the team. The Dolphins have 1 playoff win since Dan Marino retired... in 2000.  And no more.   And even when he was there... playoff wins were hard to come by, other than his 2nd year on the team.  Since 1985, 7 wins in the playoffs, 14 losses, and no year included more than 1 win.   That's 39 years...  That's pathetic.   And, I think a lot of it has to do with the night life.  They attract the wrong players to themselves and don't know how to separate the chaff from the grain.   Maybe its not the night life... maybe they are the South's version of the Detroit Lions... but I think it plays a roll.  Unlike the Lions, they've been able to attract big name free agents over the years, but never made it work.   

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yep. That was pretty funny with Nick saying at the PC he doesn't believe in "using motion just to use motion" but that's literally what they did the second half of the season. 

Not funny.  Sad.

 

 

28 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

If we're using pre-snap motion, then it ain't Nick's offense exclusively.

Never has been.  It’s a conglomeration of all the coaches with probably input from all the staff from the analytics to film.  It also has to fit the players.  Same with Fangio’s D.  

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He wanted them to study and they wanted to enjoy the Miami night life.   Miami will always be a destination city for some players.  Some can handle playing, and partying... and some can only party.  There's no surprise in the fact that they haven't done much since the 70's/early 80's.   They are a regular season only team and it hasn't mattered who the coach has been.  Consider this... Ryan Tannehill, former Miami QB, has 2 Playoff wins since leaving the team. The Dolphins have 1 playoff win since Dan Marino retired... in 2000.  And no more.   And even when he was there... playoff wins were hard to come by, other than his 2nd year on the team.  Since 1985, 7 wins in the playoffs, 14 losses, and no year included more than 1 win.   That's 39 years...  That's pathetic.   And, I think a lot of it has to do with the night life.  They attract the wrong players to themselves and don't know how to separate the chaff from the grain.   Maybe its not the night life... maybe they are the South's version of the Detroit Lions... but I think it plays a roll.  Unlike the Lions, they've been able to attract big name free agents over the years, but never made it work.   

I'd imagine it can't be summed up as that simple, but that's just my opinion. Every coach is going to want them to study. Brian Flores is a notoriously hard-ass coach who came up under Belichick. And while he had his own issues with some like Minkah Fitzpatrick, the same Jevon Holland that's trashing Fangio congratulated Flores for landing in Minnesota and said he had nothing but love for Flores. 

25 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

From an organisation culture perspective, Miami seems a kind of chilled place, so I can't see an old school sergeant major type fitting in that vibe, especially for some DBs who think they are already all that.  Philly, is a more serious place with a more serious culture.  And the DB room is a lot younger, so may not have much of a reference point....

They have mostly had old school sergeant major types though. Brian Flores was there before McDonald. Josh Boyer was the DC before Fangio there from 2020 to 2022 and he was another Belichick disciple. It's not like they had a soft and easy setting before Fangio arrived and it was a culture clash. I think it has to be something beyond just "Fangio is old and a hard coach" to cause such a rift. 

5 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

If we didn't have one of AJ or Devonta, maybe.

Hurts is looking at AJ then Devonta then Goedert then he's taking off running.  

If we had a different QB that spreads it around more then yeah.  

Under Siri yeah that was the offense, under kellen should be spread around a bit more.

Im not advocating for the eagles to trade for burks I just think it would be funny if they did  

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They have mostly had old school sergeant major types though. Brian Flores was there before McDonald. Josh Boyer was the DC before Fangio there from 2020 to 2022 and he was another Belichick disciple. It's not like they had a soft and easy setting before Fangio arrived and it was a culture clash. I think it has to be something beyond just "Fangio is old and a hard coach" to cause such a rift. 

Perhaps some of it was an age thing too?  Boyer was in his mid 40s and Fangio was in his mid 60s. 

 

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I was just looking last night to see where next years is. Thinking maybe Id plan a trip. Hoping for vegas. You know where it is? Green Bay. lol.

Where is a little town like Green Bay toing to hold all those people? Or, where are people going to come from? And, its still going to be freezing in Green Bay during that time most likely.

Stupid...

Pittsburgh... maybe I can do.

I have no problem with Green Bay… Historic football location. I’ve seen an Eagles game at Lambeau.  It’s only 3 1/2 hours north of Chicago… It’s not exactly Canada. The weather will be fine come late April.  Rain maybe

MY OPINIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND LISTEN TO THEM:

 

All QB ranking lists should end after the first 16-18 guys worth giving longterm franchise QB contracts to. No one has the motivation to dispute whether you think Gardner Minshew is better than David Carr, and stop putting rookies on it based what they did at Louisiana Tech.

Have a section after the main list called "Guys who are too young, or guys who are placeholders until the team is fortunate enough to get a guy who is too young.”

Not a good start for Dean. Guy has to get on the field.

 Nakobe Dean may still be on the mend from an injury that limited him to five games last year because the starting linebackers in seven-on-seven were White and Zack Baun, something that defensive coordinator Vic Fangio seemed to indicate would be the case earlier this month. Dean wasn't used in the seven-on-seven drills.

About Covey being a contributor on offense...

• Without DeVonta Smith, the Eagles’ top receivers were A.J. Brown, Parris Campbell and Joseph Ngata.

19 minutes ago, NOTW said:

There was a Twitter video last year that pointed out that once Nick was being criticized in press conferences for not using motion, the next game he had a couple plays where guys were in "motion" but all they did was leave their spot, run to another spot, then run back to the same original spot and run the play the same way. To satisfy "we used motion." 

Sirianni with the high level play design.