2 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I feel pretty confident in saying that any Eagles fan who thinks Brian Dawkins was a better player than Reggie White never watched Reggie White play for the Eagles.

Dawkins isn’t even 2nd, Bednarik is.

Depending on how the next 4-5 years go, Lane might have a say.

Jalen Carter has potential as well, the most from a young player we have had since maybe Reggie?

25 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Dawk is more of the fan favorite.

White is the better player. 

Yup.   And White gets knocked down in the eyes of many fans, because he left for GB.   BUT, those of us who remember understand the nuances of all of that.   White was chosen by the NFLPA to be a primary litigant in the lawsuit for free agency, because of his status as the best defensive player in the league at that time, and that aligned with his contract status with the contract ending that year made him the best option to be a primary litigant.  He became the face of the lawsuit.   And, then when he won he was awarded free agency, he almost had to sign elsewhere to bring legitimacy to the process.   Then, add on top of it that the cheap skate Norman Braman wouldn't even offer him a contract, and you have the end result.  He left for GB, but having played his best football in Philly.   21 sacks in 12 games is a crazy record that won't be touched... ever.   18 sacks the year after in 16 games.   When he left, he had more sacks recorded than games played.  That's nuts.   And if not for Bruce Smith hanging on forever, would still be the all-time sack leader.  

 

The real comparison for GOAT isn't about Dawkins... its about Steve Van Buren.   Van Buren was the first ever player to surpass 1000 yards rushing in multiple seasons (Back then it was a 12 game season).  He led them to 2 consecutive titles, and retired as the all-time rushing leader in the league.   Granted, his record was later demolished as the game changed, seasons were extended, but he's the guy that I would put up against White for GOAT, not Dawkins... and I love Dawkins and see him as one of the greatest safeties to have ever played the game.  But White and Van Buren are ahead of him for me.  

PHLY Eagles coverage is really struggling to find things to have shows about right now. Going to be a rough couple months until camp. Unless the Eagles make some type of a big move, which is unlikely.

I just don't get the format of having to do one show for each team 5 days a week. Maybe their sponsors require it, but jeez, they should've known it was overkill going in.

17 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’d go with Peterson over Moss for the Vikings. This could be debated as well but I like Steve Smith over Cam for the Panthers. Take away the 2015 season and it’s not close 

Alan Page should be unquestionably the pick for the Vikings.  I agree it should be Steve Smith for the Panthers.  I don't understand how it wouldn't be Joe Namath for the Jets.  

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

PHLY Eagles coverage is really struggling to find things to have shows about right now. Going to be a rough couple months until camp. Unless the Eagles make some type of a big move, which is unlikely.

I just don't get the format of having to do one show for each team 5 days a week. Maybe their sponsors require it, but jeez, they should've known it was overkill going in.

I liked the Brandon Brooks episode.  They should work to get on more guests.  

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

 

Our first loss of the season guaranteed. 

14 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Alan Page should be unquestionably the pick for the Vikings.  I agree it should be Steve Smith for the Panthers.  I don't understand how it wouldn't be Joe Namath for the Jets.  

I don’t even know who Alan Page is….

5 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t even know who Alan Page is….

Neither did the guy that posted the list.  He was probably the most dominant NFL lineman of the 1970s.  

 

So he switched into a terrible number and is going to force the Eagles from listing him as a DE to LB, all in a contract year which will probably be his last big payday if he hits FA.

He has a terrible agent. 

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

PHLY Eagles coverage is really struggling to find things to have shows about right now. Going to be a rough couple months until camp. Unless the Eagles make some type of a big move, which is unlikely.

I just don't get the format of having to do one show for each team 5 days a week. Maybe their sponsors require it, but jeez, they should've known it was overkill going in.

Is anybody paying for that service? 

Who let @olsilverhair back in TATE….

32 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Neither did the guy that posted the list.  He was probably the most dominant NFL lineman of the 1970s.  

 

Purple people eaters? That’s all I know about the Vikings from the 70s. I think Tarkenton was their QB… wasn’t born yet

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Is anybody paying for that service? 

It's free. The only thing you have to pay for is a subscription to some of the articles. 

 

12 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Purple people eaters? That’s all I know about the Vikings from the 70s. I think Tarkenton was their QB… wasn’t born yet

Alan Page literally ate opposing players.  He was the people eater before the NFL outlawed cannibalism.  #soft

54 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Neither did the guy that posted the list.  He was probably the most dominant NFL lineman of the 1970s.  

 

AND Associate Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court. How's that for high level accomplishment in two unrelated fields?

https://mncourts.libguides.com/Page

I'm just glad Troy Aikman isn't being mentioned as the face of the Cowboys. There was a video posted about a week or so ago about how overrated he is. Now, I know the NFL and football has changed but his individual numbers are so uninspiring.

Somehow he has 3 Super Bowls and is in the HOF. Is that because of Emmitt Smith and the OL? Jimmy Johnson? Everyone talks about Trent Dilfer and how any QB could have taken the Ravens to the SB with that defense. I think you put any average QB on the 90s Cowboys and you get the same result. Aikman wasn't it.

His career high TD season- 23

Made the Pro Bowl throwing for 2700 yards, 11 TD and 10 INT

Made the Pro Bowl throwing for 3100 yards 12 TD and 13 INT

All-Pro season- 3100 yards 15 TD 6 INT

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD	AV	Awards
Career					165	165	94-71-0	2898	4715	61.5	32942	165	3.5	141	3.0	933	45.3	90	7.0	6.3	11.4	199.6	81.6	259	1748	5.2	6.27	5.66	15
1989	23	DAL	QB	8	11	11	0-11-0	155	293	52.9	1749	9	3.1	18	6.1			75	6.0	3.8	11.3	159.0	55.7	19	155	6.1	5.11	3.09			2
1990	24	DAL	QB	8	15	15	7-8-0	226	399	56.6	2579	11	2.8	18	4.5			61	6.5	5.0	11.4	171.9	66.6	39	288	8.9	5.23	3.88	4	6	8
1991*	25	DAL	QB	8	12	12	7-5-0	237	363	65.3	2754	11	3.0	10	2.8			61	7.6	7.0	11.6	229.5	86.7	32	224	8.1	6.41	5.82	2	2	11	PB
1992*	26	DAL	QB	8	16	16	13-3-0	302	473	63.8	3445	23	4.9	14	3.0			87	7.3	6.9	11.4	215.3	89.5	23	112	4.6	6.72	6.38	1	1	17	PB
1993*	27	DAL	QB	8	14	14	11-3-0	271	392	69.1	3100	15	3.8	6	1.5			80	7.9	8.0	11.4	221.4	99.0	26	153	6.2	7.05	7.12	0	1	16	AP MVP-5, AP OPoY-6, PB
1994*	28	DAL	QB	8	14	14	10-4-0	233	361	64.5	2676	13	3.6	12	3.3	128	49.1	90	7.4	6.6	11.5	191.1	84.9	14	59	3.7	6.98	6.23	0	1	12	PB
1995*	29	DAL	QB	8	16	16	12-4-0	280	432	64.8	3304	16	3.7	7	1.6	171	50.2	50	7.6	7.7	11.8	206.5	93.6	14	89	3.1	7.21	7.22	2	2	14	PB
1996*	30	DAL	QB	8	15	15	10-5-0	296	465	63.7	3126	12	2.6	13	2.8	153	46.6	61	6.7	6.0	10.6	208.4	80.1	18	120	3.7	6.22	5.51	2	2	9	PB
1997	31	DAL	QB	8	16	16	6-10-0	292	518	56.4	3283	19	3.7	12	2.3	160	41.6	64	6.3	6.0	11.2	205.2	78.0	33	269	6.0	5.47	5.18	3	3	8
1998	32	DAL	QB	8	11	11	7-4-0	187	315	59.4	2330	12	3.8	5	1.6	109	45.7	67	7.4	7.4	12.5	211.8	88.5	9	58	2.8	7.01	7.06			9
1999	33	DAL	QB	8	14	14	7-7-0	263	442	59.5	2964	17	3.8	12	2.7	129	39.9	90	6.7	6.3	11.3	211.7	81.1	19	130	4.1	6.15	5.71	1	1	10
2000	34	DAL	QB	8	11	11	4-7-0	156	262	59.5	1632	7	2.7	14	5.3	83	45.8	48	6.2	4.4	10.5	148.4	64.3	13	91	4.7	5.60	3.82	0	1	4

4 hours ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Packers -- Rodgers over Favre?  

Favre threw a ton of interceptions. Rodgers has the highest career passing rating and lowest interception percentage in NFL history. Favre was a hoot to watch though.

https://www.nfl.com/photos/mind-blowing-stats-for-the-green-bay-packers-0ap3000000504724#f0d72237-4b71-4ea0-9ecf-13c49bb8ef76

18 minutes ago, judunno said:

 

Looks good on those breakdowns. Would like to see him in the slot. I am also wondering when Fangio throws Ringo in at safety in practice just to get a look, will he look better than anticipated there. I still think he looked better facing the ball rather having his back to it, though he still can develop of course. But if he's naturally better at one thing maybe that's just where he will most likely succeed and even have a higher ceiling. 

These conversations are why I miss the old NFL Films Saturday morning shows and highlight clips. I wasn't alive during the 60s and 70s but NFL Films did such a great job of showing the history of the game that you knew who all of these guys were. It seems like NFL history starts with the Patriots dynasty years now. My nephew is 14 and a HUGE football fan but he doesn't know anything pre-2000. 

2 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Favre threw a ton of interceptions. Rodgers has the highest career passing rating and lowest interception percentage in NFL history. Favre was a hoot to watch though.

https://www.nfl.com/photos/mind-blowing-stats-for-the-green-bay-packers-0ap3000000504724#f0d72237-4b71-4ea0-9ecf-13c49bb8ef76

Yea, Brett Favre is one of my favorite players ever to watch. Pure entertainment and love of the game. Absolutely love watching the old films with Mike Holmgrem and his young staff trying to couch up Favre. So many future Eagles coaches and some players you get to see too. With all that being said, he "only" has one Super Bowl and like you said, tons of INTs. End of his career kind of tarnished his status a bit too.

39 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's free. The only thing you have to pay for is a subscription to some of the articles. 

Yeah that's what I meant.  Is anybody paying to read articles that are generally the same as all the other articles on the internet?

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, Brett Favre is one of my favorite players ever to watch. Pure entertainment and love of the game. Absolutely love watching the old films with Mike Holmgrem and his young staff trying to couch up Favre. So many future Eagles coaches and some players you get to see too. With all that being said, he "only" has one Super Bowl and like you said, tons of INTs. End of his career kind of tarnished his status a bit too.

My older brother is a life long Packers fan - since before Lombardi. He said he lost a lot of respect for Favre with his 'will I retire or won't I' crap.

 

Fans already turning on the Kelce's.