11 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

So, being nice to Rivera’s dad means he didn’t sulk in his locker after the Super Bowl?  It might surprise you, but more than one thing can be true.

I showed you the locker room interview. That was sulking? Or maybe you were there and saw something else? Where is your proof for this thing you "witnessed." Obviously, you witnessed it because you said it "stuck with you."

I realize more than one thing can be true. For example, all these years you believed he sulked and when you tell people about it today, you are full of crap. 

Claiming Payton was sulking in that interview is like claiming Devonta Smith and Quinyon Mitchell were sulking after the Eagles drafted them. They were each dealing with emotions in their own way and being themselves instead of putting on a fake show for the cameras. Walter was being Walter and you clearly have no understanding of his personality. 

Here's another time stamped interview --- listen to his answer to the question. Maybe you'll actually learn something about him:

 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Shefflers arrest should win Nasty Nate this year 

For me it garners the Peewee Herman Award.

9 hours ago, SwingOnThis said:

Yep Favre threw one to Dawk in OT of the 4th and 26 game. Just a brain dead ridiculous throw.

That was a great Eagles memory - both 4 th and 26 and exposing one of our toughest foes, Favre. 

 

Of course I am watching Willie’s 90th. And after begging for it throughout the show, he comes out with Snoop and they do Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die. Awesome

On 5/28/2024 at 3:03 PM, NCiggles said:

Alan Page should be unquestionably the pick for the Vikings.  I agree it should be Steve Smith for the Panthers.  I don't understand how it wouldn't be Joe Namath for the Jets.  

1. Peppers

2. Smith

3. Kuechly

4. Gross/Olsen

5. Smith (though idk if his time there was long enough)/Newton

19 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Yeah, the Favre discussion is interesting.  I have to admit, my perception of him was always to just wait him out and eventually he'll try to force a throw downfield which will be an interception.

Elway was a guy who was a lot better later in his career.  He forced way too many throws trying to rely on arm strength and eventually learned to play QB 

Elway had a team later in his career.  Elway for the first 8 or so years of his career was must see TV though carrying some pretty terrible teams.  Until Brady got his last ring, Elway was in discussion for the GOAT IMO.  He was that good.

Favre the the Frankenstein prototype for a gunslinger.  He could elevate a team…i give him a nod over Aikman slightly.  Who i give a huge nod over Eli.  If we want to talk about possibly the 3 most debatable QB’s and where they stand on the list of all time greats.

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

  Until Brady got his last ring, Elway was in discussion for the GOAT IMO.  He was that good.

Who else were you having this discussion with? I can't think of anybody that would consider Elway over Montana on any occasion ever. 

10 hours ago, BigEFly said:

 

Of course I am watching Willie’s 90th. And after begging for it throughout the show, he comes out with Snoop and they do Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die. Awesome

Takes me back. I went to one of his birthday parties some 40-odd years ago. Maybe longer. Had a great time. Some years later I was living alone and picked up a scruffy tabby kitten. He didn’t have a name and I couldn’t pick one that fit. Well,  whenever I played music he would hide under the bed until, one day, I put on Whiskey River and out he came. From then on he was Willie.

55 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Elway had a team later in his career.  Elway for the first 8 or so years of his career was must see TV though carrying some pretty terrible teams.  Until Brady got his last ring, Elway was in discussion for the GOAT IMO.  He was that good.

Favre the the Frankenstein prototype for a gunslinger.  He could elevate a team…i give him a nod over Aikman slightly.  Who i give a huge nod over Eli.  If we want to talk about possibly the 3 most debatable QB’s and where they stand on the list of all time greats.

 

By the time Brady got his 5th ring with the comeback win over the Falcons any and all discussion on the GOAT QB had officially ended.  Then he won two more on top of that woth 3 more Super Bowl trips.

19 hours ago, just relax said:

Mantle was very much a good old boy, friendly, sociable, and he drank a lot. A lot. He was friendly to fans and got along with teammates. He got along with black players and was a civil rights activist in a minor way.

DiMaggio was cold, even distant but was always classified as classy. He beat Marilyn Monroe while they were married (briefly). He too got along with black players, not a common thing in his time.

Mantle was more powerful and DiMaggio more graceful. Mantle was a switch hitter. DiMaggio batted right. I saw Mantle hit two home runs in Briggs Stadium, one right handed, the other left. The one left handed went over the second deck in right field.

Both played center field, Mantle replacing DiMaggio. When healthy Mantle had greater range but he battled injuries his whole career.

Willie Mays was better than both, had he played in any other ballpark, probably would have given Aaron a run for his money for the HR title (no, the steroid/HGH king doesn't count). Mays was also an elite CF and had a much longer career than Mantle.

Nice to see they're finally counting **** league stats as equivalent to ML stats, given the **** league players played the white boys to a draw over the years in exhibition games.

Which makes Josh Gibson the GOAT.

 

22 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I just didn’t see as much of Sayer back then and don’t want to be colored by Billy Dee Williams in Brian’s Song.  In my elementary and junior high years mostly.  Elementary with Jim Brown but what a runner.  Earl reminded me a bit of Brown.  How guys that big could be so agile, fast and yet so powerful. (Barkley is a bit like that for me.  Excited to see him in green.)

Emmitt Smith’s style reminded me of Payton.  
 

If Bo Jackson doesn't get injured, he's in the conversation.

13 minutes ago, just relax said:

Takes me back. I went to one of his birthday parties some 40-odd years ago. Maybe longer. Had a great time. Some years later I was living alone and picked up a scruffy tabby kitten. He didn’t have a name and I couldn’t pick one that fit. Well,  whenever I played music he would hide under the bed until, one day, I put on Whiskey River and out he came. From then on he was Willie.

Ah the sun burned, as we baked at his "picnics”.  Baked being broadly used in this context.  Outlaw Country cosmic cowboys.  

On 5/28/2024 at 6:34 PM, myerstheman said:

Reggie White may be the best defensive player to ever play football.  He is in that conversation.

Yeah, Reggie was special in that he could excel in any defensive scheme, whereas Donald was strictly a "3" in a 4-3.

Reggie lined up anywhere along the line and dominated anyone in front of him.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Willie Mays was better than both, had he played in any other ballpark, probably would have given Aaron a run for his money for the HR title (no, the steroid/HGH king doesn't count). Mays was also an elite CF and had a much longer career than Mantle.

Nice to see they're finally counting **** league stats as equivalent to ML stats, given the **** league players played the white boys to a draw over the years in exhibition games.

Which makes Josh Gibson the GOAT.

 

Someone check the engine, it's blocking N-E-G-R-O - since when did that become a slur?

30 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Willie Mays was better than both, had he played in any other ballpark, probably would have given Aaron a run for his money for the HR title (no, the steroid/HGH king doesn't count). Mays was also an elite CF and had a much longer career than Mantle.

Nice to see they're finally counting **** league stats as equivalent to ML stats, given the **** league players played the white boys to a draw over the years in exhibition games.

Which makes Josh Gibson the GOAT.

 

Mays’ catch off Vic Wertz may still be the greatest ever. And no, I was not at that game. I was only seven.

P.S. "When they throw it, I hit it.

When they hit it, I catch it.”

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

Elway had a team later in his career.  Elway for the first 8 or so years of his career was must see TV though carrying some pretty terrible teams.  Until Brady got his last ring, Elway was in discussion for the GOAT IMO.  He was that good.

Favre the the Frankenstein prototype for a gunslinger.  He could elevate a team…i give him a nod over Aikman slightly.  Who i give a huge nod over Eli.  If we want to talk about possibly the 3 most debatable QB’s and where they stand on the list of all time greats.

Yes, I see it the same way -- Favre, Aikman, Eli

Aikman is underrated by most in here, IMO.  His career fell off quite a lot after their Super Bowl runs -- and that's partly on him for not getting on board with Barry Switzer after Johnson left -- but for that 6-year stretch he was among the best in the NFL.  

Eli is the opposite side of the coin from his brother IMO.  People forget Peyton Manning was not a very good playoff performer for most of his career.  Even during his first Super Bowl run, the Colts defense carried them to the AFC Championship Game before he got his act together.  Vanderjagt was a bit of a tool, but he was exactly right in his assessment of Manning at the time he said it.  Eli was "meh" in the regular season and got hot in the playoffs.  

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

If Bo Jackson doesn't get injured, he's in the conversation.

Nah.   Bo never took football seriously.  He played half seasons, not full seasons in the NFL.   Bo was (and proclaimed himself) a baseball player first.   That was his love.   He played football, because he could, not because he loved it. 

 

And as a baseball player, he might have had the greatest arm in the history of MLB for an outfielder.   His throw to get Harold Reynolds at the plate will forever be a highlight that I watch and still have no idea how it was physically possible for him to do it.

 

 

I'm starting to think DeVonta might hold out of TC for a new deal

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Nah.   Bo never took football seriously.  He played half seasons, not full seasons in the NFL.   Bo was (and proclaimed himself) a baseball player first.   That was his love.   He played football, because he could, not because he loved it. 

 

And as a baseball player, he might have had the greatest arm in the history of MLB for an outfielder.   His throw to get Harold Reynolds at the plate will forever be a highlight that I watch and still have no idea how it was physically possible for him to do it.

 

 

Would have been cool to actually see the throw 

8 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Would have been cool to actually see the throw 

Yup.   Camera man was just like the 1B umpire... he thought the game was over.

The chiefs boyscouts continue to have a super offseason

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Two animal cruelty warrants filed against Chiefs' Isaiah Buggs

Two misdemeanor warrants have been filed against Kansas City Chiefs defensive lineman Isaiah Buggs in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama, on charges of cruelty to dogs in the second degree.

According to court documents, the Tuscaloosa Police Department received a report that two dogs were being left on the back porch of a home being rented by Buggs. Officers and animal control found a gray and white pit bull and a black rottweiler on a screened-in back porch with no access to food or water.

Both dogs appeared malnourished and neglected, and the residence appeared to be abandoned. Witnesses told police Buggs had recently moved from the house. Both dogs were seized, and the pit bull eventually was euthanized.

Buggs' agent, Trey Robinson, denied the charges and alleged his client is a victim of an ongoing "subversive campaign" to force the closure of the hookah lounge he owns in Tuscaloosa.

"Under no circumstance does Mr. Buggs condone the mistreatment of any animal,'' Robinson said in a statement. "The dogs at issue did not belong to him and he was unaware they remained at the property in question."

Robinson said in his statement that Buggs was arrested at his hookah lounge on misdemeanor charges "on two separate occasions in the past two months, but each time no public record was made of these arrests."

He said the city of Tuscaloosa "used the threat of pursuing and publicizing both the allegations filed today and these arrests as leverage against Mr. Buggs by offering to drop and not pursue them in exchange for his voluntary surrender of his business license."

Robinson said Buggs "declined the City's offer as he has serious concerns about the City's and Police Department's motivation for deciding to target his business, which he plans to bring to light as part of his defense of the allegations and charges filed against him and his reputation and business."

Buggs, 27, played three seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers and two with the Detroit Lions before joining the Chiefs in January as a practice squad player. The Chiefs re-signed Buggs to a futures contract in February.

This is the latest in a series of legal troubles involving Chiefs players this offseason. Wide receiver Rashee Rice was arrested in Dallas in March for his involvement in a six-car crash that injured at least seven people. Police say Rice was driving 119 mph on a freeway before causing the crash. Rice is facing one count of aggravated assault, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and six counts of collision involving injury.

Rice is also a suspect in an alleged assault that injured a man in a Dallas nightclub. The man does not want police to file charges, however. That investigation remains ongoing, Dallas police said earlier this month.

Offensive linemen Wanya Morris and Chukwuebuka Godrick, meanwhile, were arrested recently in Johnson County, Kansas, on misdemeanor possession of marijuana charges.

 

So pretty much every WR who was due for a deal got one except Lamb. 

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

So pretty much every WR who was due for a deal got one except Lamb. 

Jefferson, Chase, Higgins also still waiting. Aiyuk too.