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What the hell is the point of this drill?

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

 

He's a HOFer on the mic, even last year as a rookie.  Hope his play catches up to his mouth soon.

11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Why Garner over McCollum?  Garner looked slow last summer.  4.55 forty for Garner, 4.48 for McCollum.  6.94 3 cone versus 6.72 3 cone.  

Why Ricks?  (Seems you said as much.) Thought he looked pretty bad at times last year.  He is slow. Liked his quickness to the ball at times but others he seemed clueless. I Don’t know if McPhearson has lost his speed but if not, has inside and outside flexibility. Jobe is a ST demon. Seems early to award Hall a spot. 

I think Garner looked slow as a CB and is a much better fit at safety. 

Ricks by default right now but I could easily see them going with Jobe due to his ST ability as you mentioned. McPhearson was a great gunner a few years back but has to get healthy, which he isn't yet. 

30 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Why Garner over McCollum?  Garner looked slow last summer.  4.55 forty for Garner, 4.48 for McCollum.  6.94 3 cone versus 6.72 3 cone.  

Why Ricks?  (Seems you said as much.) Thought he looked pretty bad at times last year.  He is slow. Liked his quickness to the ball at times but others he seemed clueless. I Don’t know if McPhearson has lost his speed but if not, has inside and outside flexibility. Jobe is a ST demon. Seems early to award Hall a spot. 

I'm not really a Ricks fan, but there may be more there.

Conventional wisdom/expectations are that the raw athletes take longer to figure it out and have an impact, but really improve once they do.  The less athletic guys better contribute early because that's as good as it's getting.

Sometimes, paradoxically, we see the opposite.  The raw, explosive guys get to make some plays as rookies and the guys that are a step slower can't really contribute until they master the nuances.  That's Ricks.  I think he'll be a viable part time player who eats decent snaps in an NFL secondary once he figures it all out.  But that could be 2-3 years down the road.  Ringo, however...he was more physical, had vastly superior recovery speed...he has a LOT left to figure out too, but he looked far more playable early than Ricks did.  (Even though Ricks notably was higher on the depth chart at the beginning of the year).

 

Bottom line...I don't think Ricks has the upside or the immediate reliability to be secure for this roster.  But I do think he may be someone who IS a #3/#4 CB for someone 3 years from now who sticks around.

14 hours ago, austinfan said:

Yeah, Reggie was special in that he could excel in any defensive scheme, whereas Donald was strictly a "3" in a 4-3.

Reggie lined up anywhere along the line and dominated anyone in front of him.

this 100 percent.  He could dominate in every position on the line

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I think Garner looked slow as a CB and is a much better fit at safety. 

Ricks by default right now but I could easily see them going with Jobe due to his ST ability as you mentioned. McPhearson was a great gunner a few years back but has to get healthy, which he isn't yet. 

Actually, I think Garner is a strong safety that doesn’t have nickel skills.  Not a good fit. Now, his slowness last season may be focused on rookie hesitation.  At 6’2” I wonder if he could add 15 pounds to his frame as his athleticism is ideal for a WIL.  I will withhold judgment until TC.  I do like McCollum. Funny, at  6’3” but 195, he played CB, S and "LB” in college.   Interesting thing is there are a couple other CBs with S size and one of those pretty much has a guaranteed 2024:salary.  That one is Bradberry.  (The other is DeJean.)  That said, if Maddox can be a S, why not Ricks, Jobe, Goodrich, Hall or McPearson, all of whom are bigger than Maddox.  
 

 

15 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Who else were you having this discussion with? I can't think of anybody that would consider Elway over Montana on any occasion ever. 

Reading is hard for you I guess.  Montana wasn’t in this conversation, it was based off Elway and Farve’s merits.  Montana is an all time great and on the Mount Rushmore of QB’s.  Montana, even before Rice had some of the best rosters of all time and one of the greatest HC’s of all time as well.  Elway is on the short list of the best to play the position and I doubt many will debate that who actually watched him.

14 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Yes, I see it the same way -- Favre, Aikman, Eli

Aikman is underrated by most in here, IMO.  His career fell off quite a lot after their Super Bowl runs -- and that's partly on him for not getting on board with Barry Switzer after Johnson left -- but for that 6-year stretch he was among the best in the NFL.  

Eli is the opposite side of the coin from his brother IMO.  People forget Peyton Manning was not a very good playoff performer for most of his career.  Even during his first Super Bowl run, the Colts defense carried them to the AFC Championship Game before he got his act together.  Vanderjagt was a bit of a tool, but he was exactly right in his assessment of Manning at the time he said it.  Eli was "meh" in the regular season and got hot in the playoffs.  

He got hot twice, he was regular old Eli any other time in the playoffs.  Those 2 hot times were pretty good though (and insane luck as well on 2 specific throws).

Just now, Wentz_Era said:

Reading is hard for you I guess.  Montana wasn’t in this conversation, it was based off Elway and Farve’s merits.  Montana is an all time great and on the Mount Rushmore of QB’s.  Montana, even before Rice had some of the best rosters of all time and one of the greatest HC’s of all time as well.  Elway is on the short list of the best to play the position and I doubt many will debate that who actually watched him.

So the mysterious conversation of GOAT is between Elway and Favre only? Most of Elway's prime was spent dominating a notoriously weak conference during the stretch where the NFC won 13 straight Super Bowls. Elway lost his 1st three Super Bowls by 19, 32, and 45 points. In those 3 games he had a combined passer rating of 52.76 (two of those performances were awful). I'd understand if you were simply arguing who would be the best jugs machine. But you're talking about  greatest QB of all time. Elway was never in that conversation and still isn't. Montana had already set the bar during Elway's career. If I had to pick the greatest AFC QB of the weak AFC era, I would easily have Marino ahead of Elway without hesitation. When Elway finally won a couple Super Bowls (one of them with a 51.9 passer rating), nobody was using the term "GOAT."

12 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Is that the 6-6 rookie?

8 hours ago, NOTW said:

 

 

dude needs to make some play this season or he's all mouth and no action.

Cant believe Hurts threw 2 INTs yesterday and had a 3rd that shoulda been picked by Ringo. Looks like a lost season unless we trade for a QB.

1:22 staring down his receiver

2:37 lats could be bigger

 

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

1:22 staring down his receiver

2:37 lats could be bigger

 

One man route. Definitely have to look off the nonexistent safety.

11 hours ago, BigEFly said:

 

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What the hell is the point of this drill?

I'm guessing it is working on slowing down a slant route in order to focus on the start of the route and the change in tempo to the break.  The coaches with the pads are simulating a CB and LB.  

11 hours ago, BigEFly said:

 

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What the hell is the point of this drill?

I’ve certainly done it; in fact I still do it with my trainer to slow my advancing decrepitude. It’s not particularly a football drill, just works on balance and activating the quads and calves. Part of my warm up. I need all the help I can get with my balance.

1 minute ago, just relax said:

I’ve certainly done it; in fact I still do it with my trainer to slow my advancing decrepitude. It’s not particularly a football drill, just works on balance and activating the quads and calves. Part of my warm up. I need all the help I can get with my balance.

Your trainer is Aaron Moorehead? 

58 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Cant believe Hurts threw 2 INTs yesterday and had a 3rd that shoulda been picked by Ringo. Looks like a lost season unless we trade for a QB.

We wouldn't need to trade for Carson Strong.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Your trainer is Aaron Moorehead? 

Hardly. I won’t put his name up here but he’s been working with me for 20+ years. I shudder to think what I’d be like without all that work. Dead or crippled, I think.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

We wouldn't need to trade for Carson Strong.  

It's really disgusting there are people in here who don't have the slightest bit of faith or support in Kenny Pickett.

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It's really disgusting there are people in here who don't have the slightest bit of faith or support in Kenny Pickett.

I did but he threw an interception yesterday too. Only Carson Strong or nick Foles can save us now. 

Some interesting depth chart obervations (based on Kempski's practice notes.) 

Johnny Wilson was with the second team, but had a bad drop. His hands are why he dropped in the draft. Ross was also with the second team. 

Nolan Smith wasn't among the top 4 edge rushers even with sweat out. That is a pretty bad sign. 

Trotter is behind everyone right now, and Baun continues to get first team reps. Baun as an off ball lb is a scary thought. 

My guess is Dejean is the starting slot corner. They aren't going to give a rookie first team reps right now, but it's only a matter of time with Maddox at safety.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

1:22 staring down his receiver

2:37 lats could be bigger

 

How sad is it that they had to go to John Ross at Washington to get a picture of him actually in a uniform?  

 

43 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It's really disgusting there are people in here who don't have the slightest bit of faith or support in Kenny Pickett.

I don't trust people with disprortionately tiny hands.