18 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Nah.  At least for me, the concern is Nick sticking his nose in too much.  I think everyone wants to see Moore run Moore's offense.   I want Nick drawing new flower pictures on the chalkboard talking about getting better under the soil, etc.  Stay out of the offensive meeting rooms.  Let Moore cook.

They hired Moore to run his offense, but it's not like Nick doesn't have a track record as well. And Nick knows what the Eagles have been running, which is useful to Moore b/c he wants as much continuity as possible, so he's adding rather than totally revamping and have everyone start from ground zero.

18 hours ago, eglz1 said:

I'm probably nuts but I wonder if hiring Matt Patricia then having him call the defense at the end of last year has something to do with Jeffrey's obsession with the Patriots and the Patriot Way.  It wasn't Siri's idea so Siri didn't pay with his job.

Desai was the default when Gannon basically screwed up the hiring of Fangio last season. When he didn't work out, and rumors of a lack of respect from veterans etc., I think Patricia was a desperation move to salvage a bad situation.

With Johnson, simple Peter Principle, he had done a good job as QB coach, OC was the next step, they started hot, then he showed a total inability to adjust mid-season.

he's previously said he is 99% sure he is retiring

7 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Desai was the default when Gannon basically screwed up the hiring of Fangio last season. When he didn't work out, and rumors of a lack of respect from veterans etc., I think Patricia was a desperation move to salvage a bad situation.

With Johnson, simple Peter Principle, he had done a good job as QB coach, OC was the next step, they started hot, then he showed a total inability to adjust mid-season.

Johnson had to be the OC.  He failed, but that was an inevitable decision.  You can't have your QB coach oversee Hurts in 2022, lose your OC to promotion, and then have that QB coach not rise to OC.  Jeez...that would have gone straight to CNN for obvious reasons.  Johnson was a no-brainer...but as it turns out, he's either just unfit or not yet ready to be an OC.

Desai was a logical choice too.  Apparently a smart, understated guy from the defensive institution they wanted after Fangio was off the board.  

I don't even mind hiring Patricia.  Was his very presence a vote of no-confidence that undermined Desai?  Yea, probably.  But I guess that means they knew well enough to have reservations about Desai from the beginning.  They had limited options because of how everything went down with Gannon.

They were all disasters, but I'm not sure there was much to do differently.

Man, BG basically saying Desai and Patricia were the problem

 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Man, BG basically saying Desai and Patricia were the problem

 

Talk is cheap though.  Dolphins vets are saying Fangio was the problem.  Fangio wasn't THE problem in Miami and I don't think we can just dismiss things on Johnson/Desai either.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Desai was a logical choice too.  Apparently a smart, understated guy from the defensive institution they wanted after Fangio was off the board.  

I don't even mind hiring Patricia.  Was his very presence a vote of no-confidence that undermined Desai?  Yea, probably.  But I guess that means they knew well enough to have reservations about Desai from the beginning.  They had limited options because of how everything went down with Gannon.

They were all disasters, but I'm not sure there was much to do differently.

Dennard Wilson meets the same criteria you've just laid out for Brian Johnson. He was just as logical, if not more so, of a choice than Desai was.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Johnson had to be the OC.  He failed, but that was an inevitable decision.  You can't have your QB coach oversee Hurts in 2022, lose your OC to promotion, and then have that QB coach not rise to OC.  Jeez...that would have gone straight to CNN for obvious reasons.  Johnson was a no-brainer...but as it turns out, he's either just unfit or not yet ready to be an OC.

Desai was a logical choice too.  Apparently a smart, understated guy from the defensive institution they wanted after Fangio was off the board.  

I don't even mind hiring Patricia.  Was his very presence a vote of no-confidence that undermined Desai?  Yea, probably.  But I guess that means they knew well enough to have reservations about Desai from the beginning.  They had limited options because of how everything went down with Gannon.

They were all disasters, but I'm not sure there was much to do differently.

Anyone 2nd guessing the Johnson promotion now is doing some revisionist history. Coming off Hurts' success in 2022, Johnson was the obvious choice. Clearly it turned out he was in over his head, but there was no better option at the time. I honestly think Brian was in over his head to a degree as a play caller and was remarkably stubborn, but also Alex Tanney was dreadful as a replacement at QB coach. Basically, we weakened the 2 most important positions on the offensive staff.  

I didn't hate the Desai hire, but I would have preferred a more experienced DC that allowed Nick more time to oversee the offense given the youth on the coaching staff.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Talk is cheap though.  Dolphins vets are saying Fangio was the problem.  Fangio wasn't THE problem in Miami and I don't think we can just dismiss things on Johnson/Desai either.

Fangio being a problem in Miami is not mutually exclusive with Desai/Patricia being the problem here. 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Dennard Wilson meets the same criteria you've just laid out for Brian Johnson. He was just as logical, if not more so, of a choice than Desai was.

That's the one I didn't get. Why let Wilson out of the building?

Just now, vikas83 said:

That's the one I didn't get. Why let Wilson out of the building?

Yea, hard to know what went on behind closed doors. Maybe he gave off the impression that he thought he deserved it and that rubbed Howie / Lurie the wrong way? Sometimes candidates tank their chances in interviews, but I also think front offices tend to put too much stock in interviews and not nearly enough stock in what former players of that coach have to say about them.

3 hours ago, RLC said:

A starting CB trio or Ringo, Mitchell and DeJean inside in 2025 is going to be very good. All three have size, can play the run, are fast and have ball skills. They're all strong zone defenders too.

Just cut the Bradberry chord now. It's not going to happen.

From the sounds of it, Rodgers is every bit a part of that group too. They very well could have four CB playing at a high level. 

 

 

Mailata's PC comments on Cam Jurgens at Center: said he's a natural center, not a guard and playing the position he was brought in to play. He's communicating well, making the calls, being vocal. Expressed confidence in him and that he's doing great. 

He also talked about the standard of the O line room that has been passed on from different eras of players, references Peters and Brooks and now with Kelce gone it's Lane, him and Landon upholding the standard for the new players. 

 

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

Jalen helping his teammates gain confidence, a true leader! 

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Is Rodgers CB2 or is he fighting for that?

 

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Is Rodgers CB2 or is he fighting for that?

Seems like he and Ringo are battling for now, but I expect Mitchell will get a chance as well. At this point, seems like Slay, Ringo, Rodgers, Mitchell and DeJean are locks. Then you have one of Maddox or Hall (likely Maddox given versatility). So is there a 7th spot for one of Ricks/Jobe/Hall is the question.

EDIT: Just saw post above that Mitchell getting a chance with the 1st team.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Is Rodgers CB2 or is he fighting for that?

They are rotating a lot. Yesterday was Ringo, today is Rodgers. Mitchell also rotated in there as well. Too early to say anything definitive. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

If Shipley isn't the KR he should be RB2 a lot sooner than later.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Is Rodgers CB2 or is he fighting for that?

Yesterday Kelee Ringo was CB 2 and Rodgers 2nd team.

Today looks like rodgers gets first look.

 

DeJean getting first team nickel reps

Glad they are having them compete for it at least

I like competition and rotating guys in with the 1st team. Even if it's just to see them play along starting talent to see how they measure up. In preseason you have 2nd and 3rd stringers look good perhaps because they're playing alongside and against other 2nd and 3rd stringers. Getting 1st string reps helps evaluate. And I like guys being ready to step in for injuries and have hopefully less dropoff.